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Wow, awesome update di! I so love reading your wonderful posts of SK! The explanations that Krishna gave to Narad about his leelas are so full of gyaan and make me feel like awwww, everything in the universe is just perfect since its controlled by him. Can read this many times over!

And yes, I agree that the love Devaki maa has for Krishna is equal to that of Yashoda. But in JSK they had a different story. They said that Devaki was the reincarnation of Kaikeyi and Yashoda of Kausalya. And since it was because of Kaikeyi that Ram was separated from Kausalya for so many years, Krishna got to be with Yashoda for that long. But both were his mothers when he was Ram and when he was Krishna.

And omg, I've listened to the song Shyaam Tere Kaam Bade Achraj Bhare on yt before! Loved it so much!

So glad you finally reached Swapnil's phase. Since I watched all of Meghan's episodes, I can now compare SK and JSK. And I can definitely see the parallelism between the Swapnil and Shweta scene and the JSK one. There is so much in common! Even the part where Lalitha admits to loving Krishna. And then the one where Krishna dresses up as Radha and the beautiful dialogue that follows! Awww di, you're bringing me back to 2009, back when that show was airing! And I totally agree with you about the dating vs society thing. I too am against dating because as you said, both people are usually strangers and are trying to get to know eachother. There is no real commitment and they're just trying to have fun. And society isn't really bad if it is steering you in the right direction, but that obviously wasn't so in Radha and Krishna's direction.

The Holi scene that you described really does seem very funny. Hope to watch it soon! It must have had a lot of songs in it na, after all its Holi! Wow, can't wait for your next update.

Originally posted by: AishuJSKfan

Wow, awesome update di! I so love reading your wonderful posts of SK! The explanations that Krishna gave to Narad about his leelas are so full of gyaan and make me feel like awwww, everything in the universe is just perfect since its controlled by him. Can read this many times over! I know, the various Krishna lectures in this show are sooooo inspiring and make us feel so hopeful about the world.😍 Sometimes whenever I feel that evil in this world is just too much to bear, I remember that it is all God's leela, and that everything we are seeing and feeling is his illusion only, and I feel a bit better.😳

And yes, I agree that the love Devaki maa has for Krishna is equal to that of Yashoda. But in JSK they had a different story. They said that Devaki was the reincarnation of Kaikeyi and Yashoda of Kausalya. And since it was because of Kaikeyi that Ram was separated from Kausalya for so many years, Krishna got to be with Yashoda for that long. But both were his mothers when he was Ram and when he was Krishna. I heard of this story in a folktale before, but I don't know how true it is....it is an interesting concept though, and def does make sense when we take Karma into consideration. I remember I posted this story in the Ramayan Forum before, and we had a discussion about it too.

And omg, I've listened to the song Shyaam Tere Kaam Bade Achraj Bhare on yt before! Loved it so much! I know, I love the song sooooooooooooooooooooooooo much that I heard it like 4-5 times on the way to Uni on Friday.😆 I just love the beats to it, and the Manmohan Lalla song afterwards is really lovely too.

So glad you finally reached Swapnil's phase. Since I watched all of Meghan's episodes, I can now compare SK and JSK. And I can definitely see the parallelism between the Swapnil and Shweta scene and the JSK one. There is so much in common! Even the part where Lalitha admits to loving Krishna. I remember seeing that epi in JSK, but then I did not watch SK yet so the whole story was new for me.😊 And then the one where Krishna dresses up as Radha and the beautiful dialogue that follows! Awww di, you're bringing me back to 2009, back when that show was airing! And I totally agree with you about the dating vs society thing. I too am against dating because as you said, both people are usually strangers and are trying to get to know eachother. There is no real commitment and they're just trying to have fun. And society isn't really bad if it is steering you in the right direction, but that obviously wasn't so in Radha and Krishna's direction. Very well put.👏 I also agree that society can steer us in the right direction when we're doing wrong, but with RadheKrishna it was not the case like you said....we just have to differentiate when the society is wrong and when it is right.

The Holi scene that you described really does seem very funny. Hope to watch it soon! It must have had a lot of songs in it na, after all its Holi! Wow, can't wait for your next update. There was actually only one song, but it was long and fun to watch and hear, you can see it in the vid I provided, you'll love it.😊 Both Swapnil and Shweta were so cute in it, and it was funny seeing the Gokul elders also losing themselves in fun.😆

Originally posted by: JanakiRaghunath

Very strange concept for me Janaki but interesting definitely. I would say that it doesn't make sense to me even if we take Karma into consideration (Lola will have lot more to say about this in her reserved post and you might also then like to share something about that discussion you had before in Ramayan forum) Keikei mata had already suffered the fruit of her action by going through the pain of repent herself through those years in the same birth. She herself was neglected and hated during those years by her own son because of this (And Bharat also was acting king - raja se dand paa kar praani nishpaap ho jata hai - though he actually left Keikei and/or Manthra to be punished only by Ram the real king and he himself didn't intentionally do it. This addition in bracket may not be necessary though). She not only got punishment but also the realization about the action-punishment relationship. Paschaataap was done (whether or not punished by the king but that's the point I want to make). So I find no logic of taking another birth for bearing the fruit of that action. I also find similar problem in believing the story of the hunter in the end of Dwapar to be the rebirth of Vaali.

Moreover, if we still believe the story, then what similar wrong Kaushalya mata did after 14 years throughout the life that she had to be reborn as Yashoda to live the life of separation after Kansvadh? So the story lacks consistency of same logic here with this loophole. And Kaushalya mata could stay in Chitrakoot with Ram for the 14 years after meeting him there since Dashrathji was no more but she didn't stay there by her choice then due to her love, and care for Bharat and concern about him and possibly the wish of Ramji. So again, Keikei in a sense can't be held directly responsible for separation but for exile only. However, one can always argue here also that Nand-Yashoda could also go to Dwarika to stay and to live with or closer to Krishna leaving Vraj after retiring from their duties as King-Queen of Vraj.

And also one more funny question. What could be the logic of Keikei behind asking for exile for EXACTLY 14 years? Not 10. Not 15. Not 20. What could be the Vaidik or Shaastriya or political or legal or practical significance of such odd number multiple of 7? 😃 There should be some reason though unwritten in Ramayan epic itself. The number can't be that random. Even if it was Yogmaya's or Saraswati ma's inspiration, then also there should be some mythological answer of number 14 somewhere connected to some previous births before Treta then. We may not continue the discussion of the Ramayan issues posted by me here but just thought to post here only at the place which is responsible for such question coming in mind (The question in logical link was generated in mind as principles of Karma in the story are so precise and particular in their mathematical calculation of human years for giving karmphal). Similar question can also be asked about Duryodhan asking for condition of 12 years exile and not more and a number not multiple of 5 or 10 (possibly in those days, like today, 5 or 10 may not be common easy multipliers in use due to numerology significance). Should the answer of the question be purely taken as one word - numerology? 14 number lucky for Keikei/Bharat (Fulfilling her desire initially and purifying her spiritually later and giving glory to her sons and welfare to the world) or unlucky for Ram (Sitaharan happened only in the last year)?

I am yet to read the last edited post by you Janu but now I am eager for your entry on Dwait-Adwait convo and my most favourite scene of Garg-Akrur-Blind poet as Lola had rightly pointed out that that scene has the potential to create from it at least 10 different topics of discussion in our 'to do' list for the future someday one by one.

Posting for the first time but continuously in this thread as you know. This time I naturally and logically was driven to post my view due to so many new questions arising in mind and also Ramayan-Krishna connection always is so inspiring, isn't it?.😊

Great going Aishu, Vedo and Janu.👏👏👏

Hi guys! Sorry I took so long in watching the episode!

Well I watched Kans's rajabhishek! Omg, what a big fat liar he is! He made up all that trash about his father becoming so engrossed in bhakti that he gave up everything. He was a great bhakt, but how dare Kans use God's as a ways of getting what he wants? And why did he even elaborate so much as the hut in which Ugrasen is supposed to inhabit but doesn't? Just so dumb. I felt that Akrur's expressions were spot on during this scene. He totally had that look that said, "Good God, can you belive this guy?"

And then the scene shifted to Gokul where Nand's older brother, Upnand, made him the chief of the village. That happy scene contrasted so much with the Karaghar at Mathura. I felt so sad to see Devaki and Vasudev sitting there with nothing to do, in chains. And then Vasudev's brings them food and the letter from Akrur. That scene was so cute! The actor tried so hard to get a bihari accent, lol. And Vasudev's dialogue on faith was also so beautiful. Even Radha and Krishna in Goloka commented on that. And Krishna even gives his salutations to Devaki as being the motherly form of Shakti. That was sooooo sweet!

But then we saw Kans kill many of Devaki's children. That was so sad! The song "Tu Dhiraj Mat Haat" was a very beautiful song, but still, I felt so bad watching that part.