Sai Ketan Rao | ASC | AT10 - Abhi na jao chod kar, dil abhi bhara nahi - Page 135

Originally posted by: LKashish

I think at the moment, I’m able to acknowledge that his pain is valid. But I’m still not able to feel bad for him.

Maybe it’s because of the way they wrote him or how I’m used to August Babu’s emotional side. Agastya didn’t really have a person to seek comfort in until Imlie. But when he was alone, we were able to experience these moments where he would let his tears of frustrations flow. As an audience, it made us connect to him more, we were able to empathize with him. Sai was also something else during those scenes.

Surya so far seems to be the kind to suppress his emotions until they build up, only for them to explode out on a rare blue moon when he’s had enough. I wish we got more scenes of him struggling with things on his own. Who does Surya have in his life he can truly call his own? He was closest to his sister and she too will cause issues for him. It was disheartening to see Surya question Malti today. He can no longer pour his heart out to Anjali coz that would be wrong.

My two favourite scenes of his are actually the ones where we see him express himself in the rawest way possible: the outburst in the hut and today’s scene where he snapped at Imlie. It’s for one an amazing portrayal of Sai’s acting skill but also something that helps us understand as an audience that Surya isn’t an empty gol gappa but a samosa with feelings.

Both of Surya’s more intense emotional scenes are with Imlie, for obvious reasons. I’m lowkey looking forward to the day, if he ever does, where he actually cries in front of her. There’s something so vulnerable about a man allowing himself to cry, especially in families where they aren’t allowed to show themselves as “weak”

I have pointed this out before as well that they made Surya ten times more majboor than Agastya. Yeh bechara mandir ki ghanti ki tarah bajta jaa raha hai.

Originally posted by: LKashish

Bold 1: Same, although I understood where he was coming from, I couldn’t feel bad for him. He kind of deserved it a bit, like Imlie straight up took a bullet for him because he couldn’t believe her during the Raghu track. Forget trusting her, he didn’t even use his police skills to see if she was telling the truth.

Red: He really could’ve let her leave with the Chaudhary’s to live as Agastya’s widow for the rest of her life. All he had to do is not show up at the mandir when his family objected. Imlie still would’ve been able to complete her education and he could’ve had his happily ever after with Anjali. He was going to break his promise to Dadi either way until he saw the Agastya’s video.

Bold 2: 😂

I differ here a bit Kashish. See with Raghu track he was emotionally invested in finding out Raghu as he was Malti's husband. And I agree he did not use his police skills but with Imlie accepting that they had stabbed Raghu and then buried him he really did not think he had to dig through the matter. Whatever be the case, once he saw the evidence of Raghu being alive he ran to Imlie's help. He was guilty of mistrusting her.

It was Dadi who forced Surya to marry Imlie and coerced him. He was guilty that Agastya died because of his enemies so he did agree for the wedding. Then Tayiji comes and asks him not to marry and he was going to break the promise but after seeing Agastya's video he did take up the responsibility of Imlie and came back to marry Imlie.

It would have been easy for Surya too if he did not show up at the mandir. He would not have hurt his family members, He would have apologized to Dadi and maybe Dadi would have forgiven him and later on he could have married Anjali. But he chose to do the one thing his brother wished for - give Imlie happiness in her life. I feel Surya did not come to mandir due to Dadi but more due to Agastya's video. After seeing the video he decided to stand by Imlie and he has been doing that since then.

Imlie told him not to touch and he did not even touch her after that. Now with Anjali coming in the mix he is also bound to feel disappointed and guilty that he hurt his love. But he did not give her any false promise - straight away told her that their paths are not same and broke up with her.

Today I felt bad for Surya - He has become punching bag for everyone and he does not have any one who really understands what he feels.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

Thanks for clarifying. In my opinion, Surya is neither directly nor indirectly at fault with respect to Agastya ka death. This is similar to the movie Tum Bin if anyone has seen this movie.

Navya cut off the brakes for her own baseless revenge and the goons tried to kill Agastya believing it to be Surya. The trigger was pulled by Surya ka enemy and Surya was not even aware of this. It was written in Agastya ka destiny to die when he did. Agar Surya ke enemy nai hote, the brake fail could have done it.

He should not have had the guilt ka burden and be forced to marry Imlie. Uski full life barbaad ho gayi. Tayi amma is unhappy, his foster mother and sister is unhappy, his wife is unhappy, his ex gf is unhappy. He himself is unhappy. Kya achieve hua Dadi ko yeh sab karke.

Yes it was unfortunately Agastya's destiny that he died when he did. If not Surya's enemies pulling gun on him, the brake failure done by Navya would have done the deed. He just was not fortunate. But it is all ifs and buts na. I feel Surya will carry this burden for long that his twin brother died because he resembled him. It is very hard to be pragmatic and find a closure to these kind of things.

@Bold:- Dadi wanted to rectify her wrongs which she did by denying Imlie - Agastya ka marriage. Also the pandit said that 36 gun match ho rahe hain so Dadi chali shaadi karwane. You can also argue the same thing with Dadi's guilt. If only Dadi did not act that hasty then maybe Agastya - Imlie would have reconciled after some time. So Dadi might also be having the guilt that Agastya and Imlie married but Imlie could never enjoy married life due to the accident. So she got Surya to marry Imlie.

Originally posted by: PSharada

Totally agree 100%. Surya did not force Imlie to marry him. He was also manipulated first by Dadi and later by the guilt and he married Imlie. Imlie asked Surya not to touch him and he is respectful of that. Imlie took the decision to be with him only for a year and he agreed to that. Did Imlie ever ask Surya what is his feelings ? What does he want out of life ? Arey she is not even ready to compromise for a year and stay in the house. Ulta she is ready to fight with everyone in the family and wants to change their thinking or show that they are wrong. Kyun bhai ? You are not going to stay here for more than a year according to you so why are you bothered. I am glad we are on the same page. Imlie stands no right to question him coz he did not force her to marry him. I hope Imlie stops taking out a morcha for every small thing. Aaj toh kuch bhi nahi hua, why she wanted Surya to take a stand. Men usually are in such a delicate situation balancing their families and their wife.

I get that Imlie is hurt - Yes it was tragic that she lost Agastya who she loved so dearly but she was ready to be a servant in that house. Here Surya's house main she has been accepted as bahu of the house even if they have started off on wrong foot but she hardly does any thing towards the family. She is unhappy I get that but she is venting out her frustration on Surya who has also lost a lot by agreeing to this marriage. I hope after his outburst Imlie understands that she needs to adjust too.

Whether Surya loved Anjali deeply or not he did have a relationship which he broke off now as he is married. He did not lead Anjali on but respectfully told her that he can't be with her together. He knows that every day he is lying to his family and now he will probably have the guilt of breaking up with Anjali - Why is Surya's sacrifice any lesser than Imlie's ? In spite of all this Surya is doing his level best to keep peace at house and also standing by Imlie so that she finishes her education. Yes I am so proud of all his actions to keep fulfilling his promises as well as trying to make his family be understanding. The only issues I have is his rude behaviour which he needs to change. Also gussa thoda kam kare.

Today Imlie was wrong in fighting for every single thing and I am glad Surya had this outburst. Surya is not living his life happily after marriage in case Imlie did not see that. Bechara did not even sleep the night before and was sleeping in sitting position only.

Originally posted by: Gags05

@bold

I am not questioning his love..

Infact I did say in my post towards the end, ki the flashback did show that he was actually invested in his past relationship, Contrary to our popular belief till now..

All I said was, how could he ask ki Imlie ne aakhir kya hi sacrifice Kiya hai, when he himself knows, that by getting married to him, again via dadi's manipulation, Imlie too has made a huge sacrifice.. and let go of the freedom that came earlier, without being shacked to this house and him in this situation now.. Also the Chaudharys were good to her towards the end, so in a way, she sacrificed that family's love too..

No Surya was saying that Imlie was okay to live like a servant with the Chaudhary's and she did not do this much fuss when she was living with them. But here for every single thing she is making a fuss and picking up a topic to fight. Imlie was also coerced for the marriage just like Surya was coerced. So at this point I feel Imlie just jumping on Surya for every single thing is really bad. Compared to her situation earlier when she was working as a servant in her own house, she is safe here. She has been accepted as bahu of the house also even if the family members are not in agreement for the marriage. And anyway she is going to leave the house in 1 year so why do so much kalesh and why not compromise to make things easier for both Surya and herself.

I get that Imlie is hurt but that does not give her the right to project all her hurt and anger on Surya. He is not her punching bag. Just like I did not like Agastya tana maroing Imlie as a cheap bar girl who married for money earlier when he also did the same to acquire his family business, I do not like Imlie blaming Surya for every single thing that is not going correct in her life.

Originally posted by: PSharada

Yes it was unfortunately Agastya's destiny that he died when he did. If not Surya's enemies pulling gun on him, the brake failure done by Navya would have done the deed. He just was not fortunate. But it is all ifs and buts na. I feel Surya will carry this burden for long that his twin brother died because he resembled him. It is very hard to be pragmatic and find a closure to these kind of things.

@Bold:- Dadi wanted to rectify her wrongs which she did by denying Imlie - Agastya ka marriage. Also the pandit said that 36 gun match ho rahe hain so Dadi chali shaadi karwane. You can also argue the same thing with Dadi's guilt. If only Dadi did not act that hasty then maybe Agastya - Imlie would have reconciled after some time. So Dadi might also be having the guilt that Agastya and Imlie married but Imlie could never enjoy married life due to the accident. So she got Surya to marry Imlie.

@bold, then she should be blamed for her actions instead of Surya.

I think Surya ko closure milega when Imlie will explain to him that he wasnt at fault. Agastya died coz it was his destiny and not due to Surya.

On one end, I can respect that Surya is trying to do his level best to make Imlie comfortable within the boundaries of their relationship. Whether it be by not touching her or by fighting for her rights as his wife in front of the family. He has shown a lot of growth since the marriage. Although, I’m not pighlao-ing, I appreciate his efforts.

But on the other end, whenever he leaves the house, it feels like a “When the cat is gone, the mice dance” situation. The women in his house, at the exception of Chachi, unnecessarily taunt Imlie. It’s not even to make her adapt to their norms, Tayyi just likes being in control at the expense of others being miserable. Imlie completed the rassam, so why come back and make unnecessary comments when Surya managed to fill up the forms for her. She couldn’t let the husband and wife have their moment? She could’ve told Imlie to keep fate in her husband instead of that whole “education is a hobby for women” bs.

She went through some stuff in her life and it’s horrible. But the whole thing with asking Malti to call Imlie’s dadi, Nirmala spoiling her cooking and them gloating about Imlie knowing her place whilst eating Imlie’s halwa, like it’s the most unnecessary thing for Imlie to deal with at the moment. Imlie is right to say that Tayyi doesn’t prioritize her education so she’ll always find an excuse to keep her in the house to complete her “kartavya” as his wife. Even if he doesn’t care to impose anything on Imlie, his family will continue to expect things from her. It’s easier to deal with things when it’s for your own family.

Surya may feel indebted to this family and Tayyi for taking him in but Imlie doesn’t. She’s right to say that this is his normal so he doesn’t question how wrong it is. Imlie is still so polite with them despite how inconsiderate they are in their ways.

I really want them to one day understand eachother honestly, both of their families are wrong with some good people sprinkled in. I really need some cousins for Surya! Poor Chachi is the only good person amongst the Reddy’s right now.

Originally posted by: LKashish

On one end, I can respect that Surya is trying to do his level best to make Imlie comfortable within the boundaries of their relationship. Whether it be by not touching her or by fighting for her rights as his wife in front of the family. He has shown a lot of growth since the marriage. Although, I’m not pighlao-ing, I appreciate his efforts.

But on the other end, whenever he leaves the house, it feels like a “When the cat is gone, the mice dance” situation. The women in his house, at the exception of Chachi, unnecessarily taunt Imlie. It’s not even to make her adapt to their norms, Tayyi just likes being in control at the expense of others being miserable. Imlie completed the rassam, so why come back and make unnecessary comments when Surya managed to fill up the forms for her. She couldn’t let the husband and wife have their moment? She could’ve told Imlie to keep fate in her husband instead of that whole “education is a hobby for women” bs.

She went through some stuff in her life and it’s horrible. But the whole thing with asking Malti to call Imlie’s dadi, Nirmala spoiling her cooking and them gloating about Imlie knowing her place whilst eating Imlie’s halwa, like it’s the most unnecessary thing for Imlie to deal with at the moment. Imlie is right to say that Tayyi doesn’t prioritize her education so she’ll always find an excuse to keep her in the house to complete her “kartavya” as his wife. Even if he doesn’t care to impose anything on Imlie, his family will continue to expect things from her. It’s easier to deal with things when it’s for your own family.

Surya may feel indebted to this family and Tayyi for taking him in but Imlie doesn’t. She’s right to say that this is his normal so he doesn’t question how wrong it is. Imlie is still so polite with them despite how inconsiderate they are in their ways.

I really want them to one day understand eachother honestly, both of their families are wrong with some good people sprinkled in. I really need some cousins for Surya! Poor Chachi is the only good person amongst the Reddy’s

See Surya was angry coz she is continuously fighting and trying to create a scene. She was previously able to study and give her exams when there were bigger issues she was facing. Abhi, why is she making a fuss before something has actually happened? The family is no doubt regressive but Imlie trying to create an issue when not required is off putting as an audience. Surya ne kal wohi bola, 6 seconds ke kaam ke liye she took 6 minutes.

Maine bhi yeh point out kia that she is not picking her battles wisely. If you keep fighting everyone for the silliest of reasons, log seriously lena band kar denge.

Originally posted by: joliefemme

@bold, then she should be blamed for her actions instead of Surya.

I think Surya ko closure milega when Imlie will explain to him that he wasnt at fault. Agastya died coz it was his destiny and not due to Surya.

Yes Dadi should be blamed for all this instead of Surya. But Imlie is okay in projecting to her Dadiya that she is happy in her married life. That makes her hypocrite - especially when she was telling Surya that she prefers to tell the truth instead of lying. But isn't that what she was doing to Dadiya now ?

Yes Surya will get the closure only when Imlie will forgive him as he will think that he is culprit of Agastya's death. Imlie also has to get out of her past and see that no one was at wrong and when she did marry Surya she needs to step up and uphold her end of the relationship.

Originally posted by: PSharada

I differ here a bit Kashish. See with Raghu track he was emotionally invested in finding out Raghu as he was Malti's husband. And I agree he did not use his police skills but with Imlie accepting that they had stabbed Raghu and then buried him he really did not think he had to dig through the matter. Whatever be the case, once he saw the evidence of Raghu being alive he ran to Imlie's help. He was guilty of mistrusting her.

It was Dadi who forced Surya to marry Imlie and coerced him. He was guilty that Agastya died because of his enemies so he did agree for the wedding. Then Tayiji comes and asks him not to marry and he was going to break the promise but after seeing Agastya's video he did take up the responsibility of Imlie and came back to marry Imlie.

It would have been easy for Surya too if he did not show up at the mandir. He would not have hurt his family members, He would have apologized to Dadi and maybe Dadi would have forgiven him and later on he could have married Anjali. But he chose to do the one thing his brother wished for - give Imlie happiness in her life. I feel Surya did not come to mandir due to Dadi but more due to Agastya's video. After seeing the video he decided to stand by Imlie and he has been doing that since then.

Imlie told him not to touch and he did not even touch her after that. Now with Anjali coming in the mix he is also bound to feel disappointed and guilty that he hurt his love. But he did not give her any false promise - straight away told her that their paths are not same and broke up with her.

Today I felt bad for Surya - He has become punching bag for everyone and he does not have any one who really understands what he feels.