the dangers of obsessing over gudiya - Page 3

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

imlie is proving what narmada said when she turned negative for a while -- that imlie is incapable of being a dedicated/sincere wife to aryan and a member of the rathore family. imlie does not realize how her actions are going to translate to other people because she does not put herself in others shoes. she is rather self-centered that way and thinks she is always right.

it is difficult to understand such mahanta from this character arc -- can see it in terms of story for separation but are we supposed to cheer for this chick? makes you want to clap for malini on how smart that villain lady is. she barely had to lift a finger to unravel imlie.

Mango jiii, sorry aise beech mein aane ke liye.

Narmada should be the last person to comment on Imlie. Atleast in my opinion. She is such a people pleaser and opportunistic I can't even begin to explain. Would you believe Aparna >> Narmada sometimes. The woman didnot even take a stand when her own daughter said BM tried to give off the child to some illegal miscreants. Bas yeh tak nahi. She NEVER has been right. Has she been kind , yes ? She is super sweet but Not RIGHT. But can she be easily manipulated. Oh effing yes. That manipulation can make her say so many nasty things.

Second, what's the metric to be a dedicated/sincere wife ? So if she cares for an abandoned baby, how is that anywhere related to how she is as a wife ? Yes she is being highly irrational but it makes sense from her pov. So what if the baby is Malini's ? Bacchi toh naadan hai na ? If Imlie would move on, think rationally and leave the girl alone, she wouldn't be Imlie. She has NEVER BEEN rational so expecting rationality from her at this point is 🤷🏻‍♀️. Yeah, she should not try those illegal acts, I did mention this somewhere. Woh sarasar bewakoofi hai.

Lol Aryan has been blind, like a raging Bull in a china shop when it has come to his revenge. We didnot stop to consider whether was he being a good husband, while he was jeopardizing the whole family's future should any harm come to him.

As for caring for Cheeku, MC would be an accident, not something she would want to do, jaanbhujke. No mom in her sane mind would do that. Should Narmada accuse this. And she will.

Coming to Malini yes. She is one manipulative, smart b**** .. Forgive my French coz there can't be better words to describe Malini didi. She knows where exactly to hit and Imlie has fallen into that trap AGAIN. Is it stupid, yes!!! Of course. Can't do anything about that. Sometimes we learn things the hard way.

P.S. I'm no way cheering Imlie for her stupidity. She is wrong. Bas uski iraade zid/mahanta ya self destruction nahi hai. Just like Aryan's irrada was never to cause Imlie trauma/force her for the wedding.

what makes someone a dedicated wife? okay my translation would be someone who is a team member of the family. that sometimes means compromises, hearing another person out, informing people of your whereabouts, taking a backseat on a decision if others disagree with it... why? because that is what being part of any large group means. sometimes you put aside your own focus in order to ensure the whole group is harmonious. that has always been a problem for imlie and she has struggled to do that..

cannot answer for aryan because I stopped watching through the whole suspicion track -- I was bored. 🤷 however, from what I have seen, he always put imlie front and centre. whereas, with imlie, my impression has been that she does not have quite the same focus -- he is more of her sidekick rather than her front and centre. 🤷

like I said, there is a problem with optics here that imlie will not address. regardless of how she feels about gudiya, it is not her place to interfere and if her husband says no, then she needs to step back if she wants to be an united front.

she needs to consider that others in the family will be uncomfortable with her focus on gudiya because of what gudiya represents -- her first marriage. she didn't have any sisterly relationship with malini for her to claim mausi status.

only an idiot would not see the problem coming. but yea, she is basically giving weapons to others including narmada and blue aunty to put her down. people will see her obsession with gudiya as her having unresolved feelings over her first marriage.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

kekeke.. I love how you lay it down 😆.... but I will say it only makes sense from imlie's perspective, that too barely. from the perspective of others, it will look just bad. we can wait for narmada, blue aunty and others to blow their top. it will be entertaining!

I'm an audience it makes sense to me.

And the family reaction will make sense too, that's why i love this track. All are right in their place but in contradiction to eo. That's how drama escalates and becomes interesting.

Originally posted by: Param-Sundari

I'm an audience it makes sense to me.

And the family reaction will make sense too, that's why i love this track. All are right in their place but in contradiction to eo. That's how drama escalates and becomes interesting.

yea I am more in the family camp where her actions doesn't make sense to me. but like you said, it will become more interesting. bring on the separation, am all for it!

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

what makes someone a dedicated wife? okay my translation would be someone who is a team member of the family. that sometimes means compromises, hearing another person out, informing people of your whereabouts, taking a backseat on a decision if others disagree with it... why? because that is what being part of any large group means. sometimes you put aside your own focus in order to ensure the whole group is harmonious. that has always been a problem for imlie and she has struggled to do that..

cannot answer for aryan because I stopped watching through the whole suspicion track -- I was bored. 🤷 however, from what I have seen, he always put imlie front and centre. whereas, with imlie, my impression has been that she does not have quite the same focus -- he is more of her sidekick rather than her front and centre. 🤷

like I said, there is a problem with optics here that imlie will not address. regardless of how she feels about gudiya, it is not her place to interfere and if her husband says no, then she needs to step back if she wants to be an united front.

she needs to consider that others in the family will be uncomfortable with her focus on gudiya because of what gudiya represents -- her first marriage. she didn't have any sisterly relationship with malini for her to claim mausi status.

only an idiot would not see the problem coming. but yea, she is basically giving weapons to others including narmada and blue aunty to put her down. people will see her obsession with gudiya as her having unresolved feelings over her first marriage.

Mango jiii, I can tell you 100 hundred reasons why Imlie's pov makes sense to me.

The family's also makes sense. So will Aryan's. Nobody is technically wrong here and this is a great track in terms of the drama involved.

But If I said, it would be same old Aryan vs Imlie. While I know you are neutral and So am I , there are some people who will get a lot of joy in our expense. Isliye I'm not at all mentioning any the things I would want to say.

Just that ki yes I accept Imlie is irrational but she is not trying to be mahaan.

@b: when the wife screamed at the top of her Iungs, he didnot accept and step back. So why would Imlie? Is it fair to expect it from her?

Originally posted by: missFiesty_69

Mango jiii, I can tell you 100 hundred reasons why Imlie's pov makes sense to me.

The family's also makes sense. So will Aryan's. Nobody is technically wrong here and this is a great track in terms of the drama involved.

But If I said, it would be same old Aryan vs Imlie. While I know you are neutral and So am I , there are some people who will get a lot of joy in our expense. Isliye I'm not at all mentioning any the things I would want to say.

Just that ki yes I accept Imlie is irrational but she is not trying to be mahaan.

@b: when the wife screamed at the top of her Iungs, he didnot accept and step back. So why would Imlie? Is it fair to expect it from her?

see that is why I think their love story is currently lopsided. any big decisions needs to be taken together as a team. otherwise, why bother to get married? why are you a family?

the first person to step out of the house whenever anything strikes is imlie. she refuses to do joint decision making on anything whereas I see aryan always been more willing to bend to her. he takes time to tell her things whereas she won't.

she can't even tell him or anyone else in the house before she steps out. it is just common courtesy, respect and love to say "hey I am going to the market" or "hey I am going to get dinner" or whatever. that is what happens in normal houses. you give a shout out before you leave. imlie can't even do something so simple. only in dysfunctional households, people step out and no one has a clue where anyone is. this whole business with madhav happened because she wouldn't take aryan into her decision making. she wouldn't tell him where she was. then that poor guy madhav got blamed.

imlie is a very flawed female lead who for obscure reasons is thrust on us like she is mahaan. thats what annoys me - why can't the CVs have her accept that she is wrong? if the CVs have her admit that she is an utter moron who can't seem to break the patterns of her past, then maybe imlie would come across more irrational but still human. instead she gives lectures to all. 🤦

I watched yesterday's episode and I downright laughed when she gave her mausi dialogue. she hates anu and malini but yet, this gudiya is her niece? 🤦🤦 on what basis would someone barge into the house of another when you don't consider them you own?

and while malini may seem cruel or bitter, it happens more often than we would like to accept. especially among divorced or separated parents, the child ends up bearing the brunt of anger. for all practical purposes they are well taken care of but emotionally, it is complicated. does that mean child protection services gets involved in those cases? unless the child is in physical danger, no. also, a parent child relationship is constantly evolving -- so who is to say that it wont' get emotionally better.

also for imlie to give gyaan to malini is a bit hypocritical because she is refusing to take care of herself. blue aunty made a stray comment -- just as aryan is her second husband, it also increasingly looks like cheeku is also second when it comes to her priorities. that really shook up narmada who has been worried earlier that aryan will always be her sidekick rather than husband.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

the first person to step out of the house whenever anything strikes is imlie. she refuses to do joint decision making on anything whereas I see aryan always been more willing to bend to her. he takes time to tell her things whereas she won't.

This is what bothers me the most. Even after the whole paternity fiasco, she refuses to talk with the one guy who has always been in her corner. She still makes all her plans on her own and Aryan only joins in if he is around. Talking to him is never her first action.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

imlie is a very flawed female lead who for obscure reasons is thrust on us like she is mahaan. thats what annoys me - why can't the CVs have her accept that she is wrong? if the CVs have her admit that she is an utter moron who can't seem to break the patterns of her past, then maybe imlie would come across more irrational but still human. instead she gives lectures to all. 🤦

She never, ever thinks she is wrong when she has made some pretty huge blunders. It's hard to root for someone like that who is also self-righteous on top of that. I don't know where the makers are going with this. She is getting a lot of hate on SM right now . I don't think any other of Gul's Fls have gotten this kind of hate before and sadly, most of it is deserved.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

also for imlie to give gyaan to malini is a bit hypocritical because she is refusing to take care of herself. blue aunty made a stray comment -- just as aryan is her second husband, it also increasingly looks like cheeku is also second when it comes to her priorities. that really shook up narmada who has been worried earlier that aryan will always be her sidekick rather than husband.

Frankly, Imlie looks as obsessed as Malini. She keeps putting her own baby in danger for Gudiya. I dislike Narmada for her wishy-washy character but she is not wrong to be worried. Even I am stung by the way Imlie keeps putting Cheeku in danger when the right course of action would be call Australia while have Aryan bankroll the Tripathis to fight it out in the courts. And what happened to the video evidence Aryan and Imlie had on Malini? Makers have conveniently forgotten about all of that too because why show a logical track when we can watch a mahhan FL ruin everything good in her life?

Originally posted by: new_tvfan

This is what bothers me the most. Even after the whole paternity fiasco, she refuses to talk with the one guy who has always been in her corner. She still makes all her plans on her own and Aryan only joins in if he is around. Talking to him is never her first action.

this is why I call him sidekick. while many of the fans loved their love confession, I absolutely hated it. I felt it was too early and lacked foundation. for me, the consequent actions show that is the case. imlie acts like a single woman who happens to have a boyfriend. if she really sees herself as married, she would ask for his opinion good or bad and decide something joint together. instead, we always see aryan offering her support but he doesn't get to make the calls or decide on anything. he is almost secondary in that he is not the decision maker. so their love story felt very unsatisfactory because I couldn't see what he is getting out of the relationship.....

Originally posted by: new_tvfan

She never, ever thinks she is wrong when she has made some pretty huge blunders. It's hard to root for someone like that who is also self-righteous on top of that. I don't know where the makers are going with this. She is getting a lot of hate on SM right now . I don't think any other of Gul's Fls have gotten this kind of hate before and sadly, most of it is deserved.

I really hope the social media hate make the CVs think their approach to imlie. all her lectures annoy me. when it comes to this pairing, I have always been interested in aryan rather than imlie precisely because he seems human and good -- he is willing to accept when he is wrong. when does imlie ever accept her wrong? instead, everyone else apolgoizes to her consistently. so much so that aryan will likely apologize again later for something else that imlie started.

Originally posted by: new_tvfan

Frankly, Imlie looks as obsessed as Malini. She keeps putting her own baby in danger for Gudiya. I dislike Narmada for her wishy-washy character but she is not wrong to be worried. Even I am stung by the way Imlie keeps putting Cheeku in danger when the right course of action would be call Australia while have Aryan bankroll the Tripathis to fight it out in the courts. And what happened to the video evidence Aryan and Imlie had on Malini? Makers have conveniently forgotten about all of that too because why show a logical track when we can watch a mahhan FL ruin everything good in her life?

even earlier when narmada turned grey, I felt her concerns about the marriage were spot on. imlie does not priotirize aryan in the sense; they are not a team. imlie does a lot of grand gestures like run around like a mad woman but when it comes to practicality and small moments, they are not together together. so any person would be bound to ask if imlie was ready to commit to a second marriage.

so while I get how imlie is so desperate for family that she will latch on to anyone a bit too obsessively, what I dislike is how that is shown as correct. show it as stupid behaviour and don't show her as mahaan. instead show it as self-destructive. that is why I don't relate to the gudiya track. I can see how she obsesses over this child but show that imlie is crazy for putting her own baby in danger without a thought. instead they are trying to show her as some mahaan who is looking out for some abandoned child. seriously? 🤦🤦

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

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I don't know about medical complications so I will refrain from talking about it. Imlie and Aryan both have savior syndrome on their own way, every time to time we saw how both of them reacted. I am glad CVS exploring imlie traits again which has been pushed under rug after Arylie marriage track. We rarely saw her progress because if she takes one step forward she will always ended ten step backwards.

During her extreme self destruction mode, it's meethi who had every rights to question imlie actions and she should have been shown the mirror, even though CVS showed meethi it's just to convince her for marriage not to correct her mistakes. After marriage Arylie didn't have confrontation why in the world he got married her? Aryan could have told about her blunders she committed but CVS on jet speed to confession. Now finally her savior syndrome, impulsive and emotional foolishness is back, she needs to realize her mistake and should have character progression.

I understand as mousi she thinks due to her Malini hates that baby and she wants to save gudiya but EOD it's Adi and Malini baby. If that baby isn't been treated properly she should let AKT knows and let him or Tripathis take care of his baby, that's the wise move. It's foolish to step inside Malini home and try to take the baby, she could have gone to jail for kidnapping.

Even if all goes good, before adopting or taking guardian of gudiya she needs to talk with rathore's. Like Aryan said kids shouldn't brought up on bad environment. She may be ok with her decision but everyone won't agree with her. For each and everything she can't expect to happen on her way and Aryan can't support everything what she thinks. She is pregnant and she isn't thinking about her own health and cheeku. Don't know whether cheeku will be alive or not but if she still choose gudiya then narmada will show her that she choosed ex baby above her own baby, she isn't thinking on that perspective. How other will take her actions. She always fails on priotization. Aryan can help, guide and support her but he can't control her everytime. She needs to grow personally and professionally.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

so their love story felt very unsatisfactory because I couldn't see what he is getting out of the relationship.....

He gets to make the woman he loves happy, because he is the true selfless one here. Also smart enough to have figured out each and every one of Imlie's demons and strong enough to shoulder them if need be. That's what makes him unique to me. He knows that Imlie is special but still flawed and he, unlike most ITV heroes who expect perfection, he loves Imlie for all her imperfections. I think Imlie knows that too. Hence she calls him her Dhruvtara. But I just wish Imlie could remember that he is still human. I feel like Imlie has him on this weird pedestal. It makes her think he is so strong and unshakeable that she can throw anything at him without hurting him. She forgets that he is human too and takes him for granted. Like he will always be there for her.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

I really hope the social media hate make the CVs think their approach to imlie. all her lectures annoy me. when it comes to this pairing,

That's my sincerest wish right now. This track and Imlie's regression can still be righted. Come one writers. Surprise us. Let Imlie work with Aryan from now on and trust him implicitly. Then when the separation comes, the pain would be even more dramatic. And please can the separation not involve any Tripathi? What about the old favorites? A coma and a memory loss? Better than this baccha nonsense.

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

even earlier when narmada turned grey, I felt her concerns about the marriage were spot on. imlie does not priotirize aryan in the sense; they are not a team. imlie does a lot of grand gestures like run around like a mad woman but when it comes to practicality and small moments, they are not together together. so any person would be bound to ask if imlie was ready to commit to a second marriage.

so while I get how imlie is so desperate for family that she will latch on to anyone a bit too obsessively, what I dislike is how that is shown as correct. show it as stupid behaviour and don't show her as mahaan. instead show it as self-destructive. that is why I don't relate to the gudiya track. I can see how she obsesses over this child but show that imlie is crazy for putting her own baby in danger without a thought. instead they are trying to show her as some mahaan who is looking out for some abandoned child. seriously? 🤦🤦

Imlie goes crazy when Aryan is hurt but there is usually no one there to witness that. And when he is fine, she takes him for granted.

I have complained a lot about her uncaring attitude towards Cheeku and I won't do that here but it's not nice to see her being so blase with her unborn baby. And Gudiya isn't even abandoned! The tripathis are fighting for her. Let Aryan help them out, pull a few strings! But no, it's all about Imlie, another stupid getup and a sting operation while being pregnant.