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Posted: 3 years ago
#31

Thanks for the tag miuni

After today's epi I don't know whom 2 blame or justify their crt... Every crt has their own flaws... we girls can handle our tangled hair not this messy plotline...

I expect Arpita being educated, mature woman can take decisions of her own shutting everyone's mouth as she can decide of own future life... But??did she voice out..NošŸ‘Ž ..her crt is compromised here...

what irked me today is a 20 yr old girl can recognize love frm other eyes and behaviours who is much older than her😤...even arpita herself can't figure out her feelings for sundar but our girl did...wharelse she can't došŸ¤”..Even I haven't gained such a brain in my 25 yrs of life.. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø.. Sometimes i feel Aryan, narmada out of character....

Concept, logic, character arc, reality everything is compromised here and there according to the convince of plot by makers šŸ˜...

its better to keep our expectations low so that we can find peace after watching every episodes

P. S: My views not to hurt anyone guys..

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Posted: 3 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: nehaahmad

This is great topic. Thanks for starting it. 😘 and also thanks for tagging me 😘 we are your safe ppl woman! You can share whatever you want. ā¤ļø

I agree that the writers need to develop Arpitas character but in a rush to move story lines along she became a plop rather than a major character that needed to be developed along the way. Hence the disconnect right now.
I also think that we need to watch a few more episodes to see how the story unfolds before we can honestly comment on this more and my hope is that they will show more of arpitas monologue and internal thoughts to help us understand her perspective.
they might have neglected her before (i agree) but now they won’t be able to. They have no choice. With AKT in Australia and no major villian in sight they got develop this story so my hope is that the focus they will give this story line will develop arpitas character as well.

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I thought this too. This is a topic worth talking about and yes without fighting.šŸ˜† I saw such posts only leads to fights so I am trying to be decent here and we can talk about it without fighting. But I might run away if the situation deteriorates🤣 Right now it's absolutely in the keyboards of good people who are taking the thread being respectful of each other.


Now that's the point I was talking about. The writers of itv dramas might have fault but showing fault to this levels is really something hard to get digested. We need lens, and Arvind lens was reserved to Aryan. And now Arpita's marriage will be by the lens of Imlie.

How I wished they showed her growth. It's not like she didn't have a voice, we saw her getting angry and annoyed at BM but not talking about it. They never developed her character independently so now the story seems to feel disconnected slowly.

I seriously hope now they start her character growth and she grows out of just a mere side character and Sundar's dream girl role. Tbh that's the only thing shown about her.

Sad thing tbh being the only sibling of ml.

Edited by MiuniS - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#33

Originally posted by: Shabia1

I completely get where you're coming from.

It wasn't Aryan's loss as much as it was Arpita's.

If we look at that way, it's as if Aryan lost imlie and Arpita was shown as the one most affected. Looks ridiculous


But..


Firstly,

She has mourned. She has Expressed her loss. As mentioned before in an episode, she was in severe depression for years and is just recovering. Aryan didn't.


Secondly,

it's difficult and unfair to decide how much one should be attached to a particular relation. And there isn't a scale on how one should grieve and for how long.

A friend of mine has recently lost her mother. Her mother was my mother's friend and colleague for years as well. She was very ill for sometimes. After few weeks of aunty 's death, when we went to visit, she was eerily composed. Even when we teared up, she did not. And she was always her mother's daughter, pampered and all. We found it quite odd.

What I mean is that it was her mother. But her way of grieving was like that. And it's completely alright.


Lastly,

Aryan and imlie are the protagonists. Imlie more so. Everything will be from their perspective. So it's fine.

I do believe that if they should have built Sundar Arpita dynamics more. But the purpose of this plot is to create rift between arylie and lead to a confession. So Makers are using Arpita Sundar as a tool for that and not much.



I forgot that last point tbh seeing the international shows. There the 2nd leads have their own character development. Thanks for making me remember.ā¤ļø

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Posted: 3 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: mango.falooda

Rather than the characters, the fault lies squarely in the lame writing we have been getting for the past few weeks. I was really patient with the rushed wedding but it got stupid after that. Arvind's death and the fallout was not addressed in any meaningful manner at all. So it is not only Arpita that is getting a weird arc but every single one of these characters. It is ilke a good chunk of the writing team is on holiday somewhere (did they fall sick?)....


That's the core of this Post. Before Arylie marriage the story was written extremely well. Arpita had trauma Aryan had, and suddenly it became all about Aryan and Imlie. No one else could be wrong or right. Arpita was bold talkative and had opinions too and now see where they have taken. She doesn't like BM but ok with her rishta. She didn't even made a sound. We saw Arvind from Aryan's lens now time to see Arpita's successful love story from Imlie's lens.


The good quality writing.... where did they disappear?????? She has been reduced to a lady with 0 views of life.

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Posted: 3 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: Shravani95

Thanks for the tag miuni

After today's epi I don't know whom 2 blame or justify their crt... Every crt has their own flaws... we girls can handle our tangled hair not this messy plotline...

I expect Arpita being educated, mature woman can take decisions of her own shutting everyone's mouth as she can decide of own future life... But??did she voice out..NošŸ‘Ž ..her crt is compromised here...

what irked me today is a 20 yr old girl can recognize love frm other eyes and behaviours who is much older than her😤...even arpita herself can't figure out her feelings for sundar but our girl did...wharelse she can't došŸ¤”..Even I haven't gained such a brain in my 25 yrs of life.. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø.. Sometimes i feel Aryan, narmada out of character....

Concept, logic, character arc, reality everything is compromised here and there according to the convince of plot by makers šŸ˜...

its better to keep our expectations low so that we can find peace after watching every episodes

P. S: My views not to hurt anyone guys..


Seriously here comes the second point Aryan and Narmada out of character. The no. Of times Aryan said he was wrong and Imlie is right made it ridiculous. That girl might be flying in clouds now.

And Narmada, why is she so lenient towards BM & BD when they can see she is trying to fix up with a married man. The tiffin thing was hideous. And yes where are the writing which created Arylie magic before marriage coz everything feels like crumbling from Arylie marriage track...


I can't even explain the stress the writers are giving me to make myself convinced to see the show at tv

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Posted: 3 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: MiuniS


Seriously here comes the second point Aryan and Narmada out of character. The no. Of times Aryan said he was wrong and Imlie is right made it ridiculous. That girl might be flying in clouds now.

And Narmada, why is she so lenient towards BM & BD when they can see she is trying to fix up with a married man. The tiffin thing was hideous. And yes where are the writing which created Arylie magic before marriage coz everything feels like crumbling from Arylie marriage track...


I can't even explain the stress the writers are giving me to make myself convinced to see the show at tv

Leave it yaar... Even this is my first post frm mrng... Lost my mind seeing whole imliecastpanti .... What to expect from ideal ITV writers.. This issue can be sorted out in minutes if all family members sit and discuss their views.. But will this happen??

ITV is business... Needs drama... That's it..

For our peace of mind we should shut our bain before watching ITV shows🤐

Edited by Shravani95 - 3 years ago
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Posted: 3 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: Shabia1

I completely get where you're coming from.

It wasn't Aryan's loss as much as it was Arpita's.

If we look at that way, it's as if Aryan lost imlie and Arpita was shown as the one most affected. Looks ridiculous


But..


Firstly,

She has mourned. She has Expressed her loss. As mentioned before in an episode, she was in severe depression for years and is just recovering. Aryan didn't.


Secondly,

it's difficult and unfair to decide how much one should be attached to a particular relation. And there isn't a scale on how one should grieve and for how long.

A friend of mine has recently lost her mother. Her mother was my mother's friend and colleague for years as well. She was very ill for sometimes. After few weeks of aunty 's death, when we went to visit, she was eerily composed. Even when we teared up, she did not. And she was always her mother's daughter, pampered and all. We found it quite odd.

What I mean is that it was her mother. But her way of grieving was like that. And it's completely alright.


Lastly,

Aryan and imlie are the protagonists. Imlie more so. Everything will be from their perspective. So it's fine.

I do believe that if they should have built Sundar Arpita dynamics more. But the purpose of this plot is to create rift between arylie and lead to a confession. So Makers are using Arpita Sundar as a tool for that and not much.

I was also going to share something similar....

My ma lost one of her closest friends.....i saw aunty's family returning to normalcy slowly within 1-2 months accepting it n moving on....

But it took my ma a long time to get over it....

she was'nt even family so should'nt be so affected right???

No one can judge anyone's pain n how they r affected n react to such a situation....

And fact that aryan's pain has been made fun of n seen as weird more coz he is a guy n the person he is mourning is also a guy.....is just sad to see...like men can't be affected by such stuff...

She became zinda lash acc to aryan n had pyrophobia.....n aryan took revenge as his coping mechnism..

Maybe Narmada n arpita processed their grief but aryan did'nt....

No can one judge or compare grief n trauma....Everyone is different...


And I agree wid u who says arpi's perspective should have been shown a little more....But thats on d shi*ty writing n all the googly that d Cvs had to face coz of someone so maybe they got sidetracked or simply did'nt care to show it....given the TRP aunties taste n disinterest in lots of logical tracks....

Until there is marriage involved somehow....khana hazam nai hota writers ka.....ya hone wali ho ya ho rahi ho ya rokne ki koshish ho ya chupane ki ya rishta ho raha ho ya divorce ho shaadi se somehow connected hona hi he bhai.....

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Posted: 3 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: MiuniS


He might be guilt tripped as a 23 year old. But I wanna know more to the story. Why was it not Arpita who hold the reigns of the house being the eldest child and it was on Aru?

Aru has to be sorry more because he took all his jiju's work on his shoulder and moved forward... they should have explored or shown Arpita's character too. The point has came the writers talked about Arvind Aru relationship which is absolutely okay but what about Arpita Arvind. She might have move on but she should have been shown in a light a strong persona or a character now her character just moves on according to others. BM or Imlie none should say about her life at least if it's not her. It started from the start not showing her past, we saw Arvind from Aru's eyes not Arpita's. That is what I wanted to point out that they never developed Arpita's character independently

Aru have told when I was there, things will go accordingly as per my wish. Since he was 23 and he needs that distraction to immense himself on work.

Whatever death maybe Narmada and arpita accepted Arvind death, they also don't want Aru to live on pain.

After knowing the death mystery, she did wanted culprit to caught and punished, arvind name is cleared but mainly she wanted Aru to have closure so that he can move on from pain and revenge. For her, husband might have passed away but her bubbly brother living like a emotionless person. She is seeing a different Aru which she couldn't able to see every day. CVS may not show arpita pain but they showed her as a person who have accepted it's as fate and she is the one always pull Aru out everytime.

As a family we all have every rights to give our opinions and wishes to our loved ones, it's up to them what they want to do EOD. Imlie intensions are good but how she imposing her thoughts on arpita is wrong. Arpita also advising imlie but her way of communicating is different because she is way matured than imlie, she knows the sensitivity but imlie she seeing things on one way and leaving the sensitivity which she done by cleaning Arvind room.

CVS trying to show how widow get pressure and different perspectives when it's come to their second marriage. Even though arpita is strong person, blue devil was mocking arpi and narmada as widows on all occasions whenever she gets chance. Even today she is emotionally hitting arpi with narmada and Aru so di wants to give a shot but she will speak out for sure. We should wait for track to fold.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Originally posted by: Shravani95


Concept, logic, character arc, reality everything is compromised here and there according to the convince of plot by makers šŸ˜...

its better to keep our expectations low so that we can find peace after watching every episodes

P. S: My views not to hurt anyone guys..


I agree with everything and @bold: this what is is irking me. I understand their need to rush their tracks but a proper wrapup should be done at the end and Some of the characters are behaving so OOC just for the plot progression.


@red: been doing that since wedding track.

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Posted: 3 years ago
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Good morning, girls!!

My friend, I am trying to understand this post. I think I understood some of it, but I am very sure I am not getting all of it. So, I will throw in my 2 cents😃 I will preface by saying this, we are perceive things differently based on our experiences, where we are in our life, our general outlook on life and to some extent what we are going through😊 So, nobody should get chappals for what any one of us feels or sharesšŸ‘šŸ¼ OK, that said........

I won't be able to put Arvind in a more articulate way than what our very own Deltablues said in her tinder wala post ( DB ji, I didn't touch that post till now as I thought it was something about social media😲 and tech generally makes me anxious, but I would have missed out a lot if I didn't read it😃) So, here is what she said

They have crafted Arvind to be such an integral thread of the Rathore unit that they sort of retrieved into their own individual shells after he was gone—loving and supporting each other but only that.

This is very accurate in describing this integral character in Rathore household. Now, how such an inspiring person will affect each one of the people around him is very different. Let me try and explain....... For Arpita, he may have been on an equal footing, her college mate, her friend, her lover and her husband 50-50 relationship. She may not have worshipped the ground he walked on, as let us face it, they were hubby-wife, I am sure they had their own set of misunderstandings, bickerings etc. In other words, she knows the good and bad about him. This is not to degrade him in Arpita's brain, but as I said, he is more of her partner. She grieved and is still grieving the loss of such a friend, confidante, husband and a partner. We were told she had pyrophobia, she went through severe depression. We can see Aryan and Narmada constantly trying to protect and shield her from anything to do with Arvind, his memories, conversation about him etc. Aryan is fiercely protective when he asked Imlie to back off during that interview with his hands tied and asked her to let Arpita leave and he would answer her questions. The normally docile Narmada jumped up to protect her cub yesterday at that breakfast table and asked BM to back off.

Both Narmada and Aryan very delicately asked her at the table, one holding her in an embrace and the other tenderly holding her hand what her thoughts are about marriage😭 Such a beautiful scenešŸ¤— They didn't bulldoze her thoughts or wishes, they didn't impose their wishes/wants. All they and Arpita agreed to is to meet this prospective groomā¤ļø I don't think they said it is BMs rishta vs Imlie's nonsense. Once she agreed, Aryan said the sooner the better. If I imagine my brother in Aryan's place, he probably would have said the same, the sooner the better, as he doesn't want to delay his sister from being normal againā¤ļøšŸ˜­

And I never felt Arpita is a meek girl. She is not loud like Imlie or forceful like Aryan, but she is strong. While Aryan protects the family from external forces, Arpita does the same from the inside. She worries about Aryan's grief, his psyche, his happiness. She fights with him, plays with him to keep their family together ( I mean emotional bonding), she cares for her mother. She warned Aryan against any wrongdoing where Imlie is concerned about forcing the wedding. Does this look like a meek girl? I certainly don't see her as meek. She is not flamboyant, but not shy to speak up when she needs to.šŸ¤—Is she someone who needs protection from her "arrogant brother"? Heck, NO!

As to why she is not voicing her opinion clearly I thought she was pretty clear. She said three things: 1. She is ready to look at her prospects 2. She is ready to meet people 3. She hasn't interacted enough with Sundar to have " love" for him. Remember, she is in a very difficult state now, emotionally she will question herself back and forth " am I emotionally ditching my husband as he is gone? am I selfish to find happiness for myself? ", so she won't and can't be any more forceful than this🤢

Now, moving on to why Aryan is more affected. Aryan has the survivors guilt, he thinks he should have been the one who should have died. Also remember he had hero- worshipped his jeeju, he is that father figure, his bhayya, his confidante, his shield, his everything. Unlike Arpita. for Aryan, Arvind is on the pedestalā¤ļø. Like our Mango ji wrote a few days ago about all the practical things he had to do after Arvind's passing while bearing a huge guilt as a survivor. More than his own pain, he has to watch his sister without a partner so early in life, he has to watch his mother's helplessness seeing her daughter with no normal life. So, if he puts them in their place and look at the whole situation , and each juncture, if only he was the fallen one, if only.... if only.......he multiplies his grief several foldšŸ˜­šŸ¤—This guy needs a bear hugšŸ¤—šŸ˜­ Like he said during that incident on the road in the rain, you can bear your own grief, but how can you bear the helplessness when you see your loved ones pain? He can do not a thing to embrace them and take away that pain😭The reason I am saying all of this, is I am one of those people who compound my anguish, my worries in this manner, along with rumination. So, I understand where he is coming from perfectlyšŸ¤—

I will end with a personal anecdote. An aunt of mine who was an inspiration to me, instrumental in how I deal with my life observing and understanding how she lead her life, passed recently. She asked me to make her end of life decisions. I agonized over and over, I still do trying to find a balance between what she wanted and what I selfishly wanted and how I made decisions. My cousins( her children ) with whom she lived during her final years, are at peace with her passing. I am not, I am still grieving, still agonizing. Did I do the right thing? Can I say that my cousins have any less grief and that I have more grief? Absolutely not. They found ways to reconcile her passing. I haven't yet😭

Sorry, I don't know if I addressed your question. But, when I saw this post, I thought I should share my 2 or 20 cents worth.

I am not going to say anything about Imlie and her frivolous opinions when deep emotions such as above are at stake😭

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