Imlie Written Updates and Episode Discussions 25 Feb 2022 - Page 29

Originally posted by: TEOL

And Aditya become a good guy again now he kicked Malini out of the house and won me over with more talking more lines closer to the original and seeming like he is properly into the role now so now actually doing a good job for the last few days for me not slapped fish wet lettuce anymore.

I like Gashmeer Aditya better still over Charlatan Venki Aditya as he didn't even put the effort of that Venki role into the Dark Aditya but Venki won me over as Good Guy Aditya the last few days as Aditya he is better as the good guy not the Villian with Malini version.

Don't get me wrong with the crying laugh emotions he still has a lot of work to do but I don't hate him completely anymore as to be fair to him he has been doing a good job for 2 days now after he started talking more again since Gashmeer left we see how he progresses after that but he still isn't Gashmeer for me though he never will be but I'm going to give him a chance on his own after the last few days he hasn't completely won me over being my Aditya and probably never will as I'm Gashmeer all the way but he has won me over as a different Aditya actually performing the role as an Aditya the last few days.

Originally posted by: Krantikari

No I didn't. This was the definition provided by her: "fondle (someone) for sexual pleasure roughly or clumsily, or without the person's consent."

See the 'without the person's consent' part?

Not being trained does not give him an excuse to touch her inappropriately. He could have grabbed her arms, legs, anything (besides the sexual areas of the body) and that would be fine. But he chose to restrain her by holding her under the chest which looked inappropriate not just to me but neutral viewers like my mom who are not even fans of anyone.

She was objecting him in that restraining scene itself. It didn't stop him from restraining her. But of course, you'd say that because of the life-threatening situation, wouldn't you? Situation or context is no excuse for touching someone inappropriately, full stop. It's not like Imlie's arms or legs or were amputated or something.

I guess it really is a matter of perspectives but it looked wholly inappropriate between a boss and employee. They weren't a couple yet for him to hold her with such familiarity.

Regarding filing a case, I know it is tricky to assume consent on someone else's behalf, especially women. Therefore, I think it is best practice for men to ask for consent from women explicitly (if not in a relationship or married). A boss (no matter how fond of employee) never touches his employee like that without risking facing a lawsuit.

Again, he didn't purposefully or otherwise touch her touch her on her sexual parts. Literally a life-threatening situation and he must balance his own weight and hers by the arms. Just wow.

If you push someone in public transport or rub shoulders with them unintentionally, does that make you a groper punishable by law? Because no consent? Lol.

Intent vs impact is a thing. Bye.

IPC priortises impact over intent and Imlie's case neither was there so lol again.

Originally posted by: Krantikari

I couldn’t stop myself from quoting this one.

Groping is literally touching someone without their consent. That’s the same thing as forcefully restraining by holding them under the chest. The female chest is a sexually suggestive area for most normal people.🤷‍♀️ You don’t have to hold someone under the chest to save them from being blown up, there are more appropriate places in the body lol.

And I must say I find it really amusing that Arylie fandom is so quick to push their female lead under the bus when they are out defenses for their devta.

This was the second reply I received that pushed Imlie under the bus. What do you expect me to say to that? Congrats I guess? On being a fan of the groper couple?😆

Sure, sure feel free to quote. I believe in understanding both sides of the coin before quickly jumping in to judge a side, for one.

Groping also clearly means a sexual intent. And it's just not my dictionary that states that. Among bomb blasts and such state where people are dying, are you so desperate to villianize a character that you accuse him of trying to feel her or whatever you are implying, in that situation?

And since we are talking about consent, what do you mean by consent exactly ? For me, it's a choice and the ability to say yes or no. Was Imlie in that state of mind where she thought her mother, her grandmother, her ex husband and her villagers were dying that she could make decisions for herself ? Aryan was literally trying to hold her for jumping amongst the chaos, because she was trying to run off to the warehouse. Utterly impulsively and without a plan. She was risking her own life. And Aryan just stopped her from doing that, yes definitely by force. After that she bit Aryan as well, that's how desperate she was, so since you are clearly intent on finding sexual intents, do you think her biting him was a part of foreplay ? 😆

Also since we are on the discussion of consent, you might also ask who was Aryan to make decisions for her ? Now since you intentionally unsee some parts, I would like to remind you of the scene where Imlie proposed a partnership to Aryan, calling him her 50-50 partner, that means she gave him agency. In a partnership generally if another party is unable to make decisions or in such a dire state that his/her decisions are going to be disastrous, the other party has a right to make the decisions on behalf of the former party. Because they are a team. The former party has agreed to it and the choice/consent is implicit.

I might be slightly abnormal, but female chest does not only mean mammary glands. Female chest also consists of heart, lungs and liver (slightly on the lower side but nevertheless) as far as I am concerned.

@Bold : That's only because in the AryLie equation, only Aryan is consistently falsely accused and the other fandom which you are a part of, conjure up things that are not just untrue but horrendous all in the name of questioning and criticizing. Even bashing will be the wrong term to use because bashing seems too dignified in this case.

Terming a guy a "groper" which means sexual assualt just because you can't accept the new ML no matter how good his deeds are, is not just simply distasteful.

We are definitely not out of defenses because he doesn't need to be defended against. He is hardly a bigamist/serial cheater, or defined as a flawed character. We just believe in indulging in healthy discussions and bust people out of delusions while we are at it.

Yes, congratulations are obviously accepted. We are fans of characters who believe in equality (50-50 at that), characters who are comfortable with each other and despite the name calling, that are thrown in their face by a certain Patrakaar and his beloved current wife, the characters we are a fan of have always been true to themselves in front of each other, because they have nothing to hide. I don't know about their marriage but at least their partnership didn't start on a foundation of lies.

What your eyes see as "groping", ours see it as their increasing comfort. They have allowed each other the right to intrude in each other's personal spaces.

Abhi toh shaadi bhi hain saamne so more congratulations are wholeheartedly accepted 🤗

Originally posted by: Deltablues

I couldn't stop myself from quoting this one because throwing around accusations of sexual harrasment on disliked entities are treated so innocuously when it so is not.

She literally gave you the dictionary entry for the word "groping", and you chose to ignore that.🤣

Chalo apki baat maan lete hai. Everyone should just be damned concerned to not hold someone below their chest— respectable women and judges may specify how many inches below the chest is considered not sexual— when literally an active bomb is twenty metres away from them. Who fears death in such a situation? People are obviously looking to creep a feel instead of saving their own life.

Anyhow, please specify the appropriate area to uphold a woman in a life-threatening situation from your many years of experience in rescue/evacuation operations? Aryan wasn't trained anyway

Secondly, does any court of law allow someone else to assume consent or lack thereof on someone's behalf? Has Imlie ever stopped or later objected to Aryan touching her? The arm grabs in the earlier episodes were horrible, and he got bashed by us left and right. Arm-grabbing in itself doesn't constitute sexual assault.

The only time Imlie has stopped Aryan fron entering her space was when he was entering her mandir. She stopped him, and he respected that

Imlie has explicitly asked Aditya thrice to refrain from touching her and coming in close proximity with her

1. When he came in to talk to her after the mirchi eating kand.

2. When he grabbed her hand after Aryan had brought the t-house for her

3. Twice in the dooriyan episode day before yesterday.

That's not even considering when she couldn't wait to get out of the photobooth.

Imlie is not someone who's scared of reiterating her boundaries. Instead Imlie impulsively touches Aryan all the time and compels him to touch her too.

If I were to file a case against Aryan on Imlie's behalf aur woh apni chhoti hilati Hui Aryan ke gale lag jaaye toh judge toh mere discomfort ko ghaas bhi nahi dalega na?

Bingo

I'll also like to add

The scene where imlie's dress got torn was a subtle scene but it establishes the character of ASR. He had all chance to touch her inappropriaty but if you see closely , he uses his sleves to cover her and refrain from using his hands. He respected her enough and also saved her dignity

Originally posted by: Deltablues

Again, he didn't purposefully or otherwise touch her touch her on her sexual parts. Literally a life-threatening situation and he must balance his own weight and hers by the arms. Just wow.

If you push someone in public transport or rub shoulders with them unintentionally, does that make you a groper punishable by law? Because no consent? Lol.

Intent vs impact is a thing. Bye.

He managed to restrain her by her arms just fine in their initial days.😆

How could you restrain someone unintentionally? I didn't think that was possible but I learn new things everyday.😆

Sure intent vs impact is a thing but one cannot prove intent in a court of law, so it never hurts to be too careful.😛

I don't like these 1 week ahead Swurves. I want to see what this fake or real wedding has to offer the shows entertainment factor on Monday as there is no Saturday as this week's Saturday is a Chikoo not the end of next week but I do hope that timeslot is a show swap every week though like Maha Raja Sundays swaps weekly after it started.

Whilst Jodi is on would love 10:30 Saturday to be random so we still get some Saturday Imlie.

Originally posted by: Krantikari

He managed to restrain her by her arms just fine in their initial days.😆

How could you restrain someone unintentionally? I didn't think that was possible but I learn new things everyday.😆

Sure intent vs impact is a thing but one cannot prove intent in a court of law, so it never hurts to be too careful.😛

Yes, IPC priortises, rightly, impact over intent. In Imlie's case neither was there. I am sure she appreciates not being dead.

The mental gymnastics happening here to find perversion in a life-saving act is hilarious

Why wasn't he just holding her by the arms when she was literally pushing all her weight against him and trashing to go into an official control zone?!? She could be shot at sight as a presumed intruder?

Why indeed!

Why should married men and engaged men be exempt from explicitly asking for consent? What if Imlie's comfortable with Aryan touching her intimately?

Oh yeah respectable women don't do thatm

I feel really silly now I've been saying New Aditya was Venki all this time but Venki has a much thicker beard after re-watching a YouTube clip of him to see if I was ever correct on it. No wonder why he was not that good as Dark not talking very much Aditya he wasn't Venki at all.

IMHO - couple of scenes(exact two) aryile in PD fight track were 'awkward' not in 'sxxxxx' level though!

I felt to skip those... while watching with family.... to me...looks like.......it was directional issue... NOT sure if they did it deliberately or was a miss ! May be height difference of actors played the part 😕

aryan must had hold her little bit more around her bellybutton/waist not far above it 😡

Originally posted by: Deltablues

I couldn't stop myself from quoting this one because throwing around accusations of sexual harrasment on disliked entities are treated so innocuously when it so is not.

She literally gave you the dictionary entry for the word "groping", and you chose to ignore that.🤣

Chalo apki baat maan lete hai. Everyone should just be damned concerned to not hold someone below their chest— respectable women and judges may specify how many inches below the chest is considered not sexual— when literally an active bomb is twenty metres away from them. Who fears death in such a situation? People are obviously looking to creep a feel instead of saving their own life.

Anyhow, please specify the appropriate area to uphold a woman in a life-threatening situation from your many years of experience in rescue/evacuation operations? Aryan wasn't trained anyway

Secondly, does any court of law allow someone else to assume consent or lack thereof on someone's behalf? Has Imlie ever stopped or later objected to Aryan touching her? The arm grabs in the earlier episodes were horrible, and he got bashed by us left and right. Arm-grabbing in itself doesn't constitute sexual assault. I don't remember a time when Imlie has stopped Aryan from touching her normally.

The only time Imlie has stopped Aryan fron entering her space was when he was entering her mandir. She stopped him, and he respected that

Imlie has explicitly asked Aditya thrice to refrain from touching her and coming in close proximity with her

1. When he came in to talk to her after the mirchi eating kand.

2. When he grabbed her hand after Aryan had brought the t-house for her

3. Twice in the dooriyan episode day before yesterday.

That's not even considering when she couldn't wait to get out of the photobooth.

Imlie is not someone who's scared of reiterating her boundaries. Instead Imlie impulsively touches Aryan all the time and compels him to touch her too.

If I were to file a case against Aryan on Imlie's behalf aur woh apni chhoti hilati Hui Aryan ke gale lag jaaye toh judge toh mere discomfort ko ghaas bhi nahi dalega na?

BANG ON BLUES 🤌

But itna sach, itna sach bhi matt bolo yaar, hazam kaise hoga ? 😆

What did I tell you about the "atrangi" (as you put it) dictionary.

Innko toh khud Imlie aake bol jaaye ki I don't feel uncomfortable in the least, in fact I feel rather comfortable with her ABP tabhi bhi, they will tell her that you don't know how you felt okay ? We know it best 😤🤣

@Italics : Hawww how dare you question a flawed hero ? He is the one wronged that Imlie didn't let him touch her. Tab toh consent gayi tel lene.

Her whole body screamed discomfort and her agitation when AKT invaded her space yesterday but that's obviously okay. Especially because AKT is married to Imlie's sister so dandy 😆