The Provocation Trap - Page 20

Originally posted by: Lodestar

The theme of yesterday's epi was "haq ki ladaai".

AC was urging Didi to do the fight for her rights as a wife & now Didi has also started doing her cheap tricks with the same justification. What both of them do not understand is that this haq ki ladaai should not be with Imlie but with Adi. For them Imlie is the enemy with whom Didi needs to fight for her rights while in actuality it is only Adi the husband who can give her the rights of being his wife. This simple thing they do not understand. For them, enemy is always the woman & not the man. So much internalised patriarchy

I have a different take on this.....what haq ki ladaai are they talking about to begin with? 😆

When you feel someone gave you DHOKA, you usually want JUSTICE, not HAQ.....Haq ka toh waise hi faaluda ho chuka hai if whole world knows that the guy made you a second wife.....so what haq are they talking about? The haq of sharing a room and a bed with him when he's told the whole world he's married to someone else? What "haq" will you get then? LOL sab log tum par hasenge that you want to share a bed with a man who is known as kisi aur ka husband😕......just sharing a bed with a guy makes you his wife? Is that the "logic" here? 🤔

I get your point about how they've made Imlie the enemy instead of Adi....but I just feel that the whole haq ki ladaai claims are bullshit too......Yeh koi azaadi ki ladaai nahin chal rahi ki tum apne aap ko revolutionary samajh rahi ho, Didi😆.....Shaadi ke rishte ke haq aise nahin milte.

In a marriage, you can't COMPEL someone to give you haq.....woh haq chheena nahin jata, DIYA jaata hai.....pyar se, maan se.

Yeh baat Imlie bhi shuru se samajh gayi thi which is why she never tried to compel Adi to give her any haq either.......Imlie hid the truth to give someone ELSE a haq that was originally hers....Malini is lying to SNATCH someone else's haq....that is the fundamental difference.

Originally posted by: Josupra

Yesterday in the episode, Imlie might have told Adi that she will bring tea for Malini and that is why Adi was in room making small talk with Malini, but when he saw Aparna brought the tea he immediately asked about Imlie and as soon as he got a chance, he went after Imlie to talk with her in private and make sure she is comfortable. Itne mein hi he was concerned why Imlie didn’t come.. now Imagine what would this guy do after the precap scene plays out. He knows very well seeing him with Malini bothers Imlie, he knows she won’t say anything but will cry in a corner and the last time Malini forced herself on Adi, after Imlie’s admission argument, Imlie distanced herself and stopped talking with him and he became sick. I am very curious to see what he would do now.. the more Malini tries her desperate attempts, the more Adi runs after Imlie. Nazara dekhne layak hoga.

Whatever happens, for once I do not want Imlie to run away from her relationship with Adi. She knows what happens to Adi if she leaves him.. he fainted with fever last time just at the thought that Imlie left him.. after all that Imlie should give priority to Adi above all else. Yes she would feel bad for Malini, but she should learn how to cope up with her guilt and prioritize Adi, she should learn that Adi is not a toy that can be thrown from one sister to other. she ran away enough number of times and saw the consequences, hope she learned atleast something from that. Then she took the decision without consulting Adi and she shouldn’t do it now, it would be just insulting him after everything they went thru. Let’s see how the makers will show Imlie’s character growth

LOL much as I'd like to see character growth on this, the makers themselves are doing obviously contrived rinse/repeat scenarios by bringing Malini back to the house in such a way.....so anything is possible with Imlie as well.

Fact is, they've never resolved this angle completely of Imlie leaving in her confusions or sense of despair.....last time when Adi fainted and they talked about all this....even then she wasn't fully convinced by him telling her ki tum beech mein nahin aayi, Malini KC ke saath khush hai blah blah......lol the guilt still constantly lives inside Imlie no matter what ki she may have played a part in hurting Malini.....thode time ke liye woh relax ho jaati hai and starts embracing her happiness but then the guilt comes back cuz someone or the other starts accusing her again and she feels bad.

Adi ne Imlie ko tab bhi daanta tha ki tum bina bataaye chali gayi but overall toh status quo hi raha tha cuz she came back na😆......this issue needs to be talked through in more detail.....Adi has been using the KC angle as a shield to hold back Imlie ka guilt😆.....woh shield hatega toh hi is baat ki teh tak jaa paayenge that they can't live their life waiting for permission from others to live it......let's see if makers want to explore that this time ki bas upar upar se nipta denge phir se😆

Haq ki ladai nhi balki chipakne ke baahane sochri h yeh didi toh. Jaante hui bhi that Adi only prioritized Imlie, she said she "needed this" & thanking her mother lol. Needed what 😂 ? Such a chipku woman.🤣Chewing gum ki bubble ki tarah baar baar chop hojati h & mez pe chipak jaati h when she's unnecessary to be present lol.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

Bohat hai morche uthane wale supporters forget other platforms isi platform p pe ke adi hi bura hai and he deserves it.. As I DO NOT go anywhere else for my own sanity..

Mao you didn't know MB ji adi offering his hand in courtesy meant he has feelings for malini and imlie is just his back up who should leave him now just caz he offered his hand in courtesy to someone pretending to be sick...and that too in the most chivalrous way and imlie should throw a tantrum.and act all low mentality too and fight how dare you just offer your hand and be an Insecure woman with trackers on adi scrutinizing every move of his and keeping record of every breath

Log samjhate hi nahi hai ke yehi farak.hai imlie and malini main... imlie will never be suffocating and yeh choti choti things really do not matter..

Hain? Haath pakadne se jaise pregnant ho gayi. This is like that comparison they did during the Pallavi drama ki Imlie should be jealous. I have never been able to understand why people fail to see that Aditya can only love Imlie. And that the battle they have to fight now is in just strengthening that bond against external forces and ironing out the communication loopholes that people will exploit.

The makers give a lot of Didi but they also give contrasts a lot. Even in this episode, they showed the difference between how Malini would have treated Aditya had he brought his ex home versus how Imlie treated him. These things are literally staring at us in the face but 🤷🏻‍♀️

I never want to see Imlie cling on to Aditya like Malini does. And that is what this track is going to prove once again that while she may tolerate a lot to be with the man she loves, at the end she will walk out and not look back if a line is crossed.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Let's be clear once and for all that Malini NEVER trusted Adi😆.....so the situations are not the same at all in my opinion cuz:

a) Malini was even jealous of Imlie's VOICE on the phone from PD😆....she didn't trust Adi simply over hearing a girl's voice in the background when he called her.

b) The first time Malini saw Imlie in T house, she had no context about Imlie other than the fact that Adi brought her over from PD and even then she was watching Imlie so warily.....so GHANTA trust😆......contrast this with how Imlie greeted Malini at the door today when Adi brought her from the hospital.....ekdum complete and open trust despite Malini giving her evidence just last week that she is angling to be Adi's wife again.

c) Imlie was Adi's valid wife before he even married Malini and even then she backed off and never imposed herself on Adi.....respected whatever his choice was and infact tried to support him in whatever choice he made. Yes, this was all before she herself fell for Adi but even after she started having feelings for him, for a long time she still continued to respect his choice about who he wanted to be with.....that is the KEY difference.

d) Imlie trusted Adi at every stage pretty much....even when he was pushing her away.....lol.....she trusted in his character, in his sense of loyalty.....she has never considered him a two-timer because he has been loyal to whoever he felt he was committed to at the time and he expressed this clearly to Imlie always. .....

So to say this is a parallel to how Malini supposedly had "naive trust" in Adi and then got betrayed......no, it's not even remotely the same case.

Malini never trusted Adi but she claimed blind trust in the face of seeing the signs of Adi-Imlie's connection.....now she's acting like they were cheating her behind her back the whole time but the truth is that they didn't actually carry on as a relationship behind her back.....that entire phase was simply about them trying to support each other on a human level.....they weren't trying to have some romantic relationship that supposedly Malini can claim as an act of betrayal while Adi was professing love to her. That is the big irony.....Adi-Imlie had the RIGHT to be together as husband-wife even then but they never did....the whole time they simply supported each other on a human level before Adi started to realize his feelings.

And by the time Adi started to realize his feelings for Imlie, he had stopped giving Malini any claims of grand love....so again, how does it become "two-timing" then?

This is why this is a totally different situation.......Adi has literally told the whole world that Imlie is his wife and that he is no longer with Malini.....He has clearly shown to Malini that he only loves Imlie, his every thought is only for Imlie.....He has given Malini no reason to believe that he is interested in her and still she's shown up with a FAKE illness to stay in his house and to even climb into his bed.

So the first big difference is in the form of imposition only....Malini is IMPOSING herself on Adi....Imlie NEVER did....even when she had first rights on him. The second difference is that in Imlie's case during the entire time Adi was with Malini, everyone didn't know the whole truth that she was actually Adi's first wife.....but in this case now when Adi is totally with Imlie, everyone knows the truth that Imlie is Adi's first wife and still Malini is doing acts like this......lol so more than a test of trust, it's a test of character.....and Malini has failed that test completely.

I'm just finding it hilarious that people think this is some form of "justice" that Imlie is being made to see AM together and this supposedly will show her what broken trust feels like......lol well I hope people get their answer soon about how the situations are totally different.

Imlie can feel hurt obviously....but she will never be Malini who never trusted Adi to begin with so her claims of broken trust were bullshit to begin with.

THANK YOU🙇‍♀️🙇‍♀️

I had no energy left to explain it a clear difference between both situations reading absolute nonsense how it is same caz it is NOT..and if one wants to turn blind and equalize well galat show dekh rahe hain and koi aur show then the rest..

It will never ever be the same caz imlie wasn't playing games she was never manipulating she never did play any cheap tricks to get adi's attention and she isn't itne chote dil and dimaag ki..her soch isn't in gutter like didi. She is large hearted enough to give her own husband to someone he wanted to be with then and remain silent and see them together unlike this woman who clearly stated that she hates even the sight of the very same "choti behan" she was screaming to be fighting for haq dilao campaign until yesterday and banaooing her jagah. Imlie isn't playing games based on her agenda on different fronts to look Good and win appreciation never has never will.

Imlie is not a LIAR and despo attention seeker with no class dignity or sharam period

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Aap sabse bada farak samajh nahin rahe😆

In Malini's case, Adi had a guilty conscience cuz he was hiding the truth of his marriage to Imlie....so that anyways made sure there wasn't any real trust in their relationship.....Malini was always a shakki aurat and then Adi ended up having this one big secret he was keeping....so both of them were just in an illusion of trust, not any real trust....

In Imlie's case, Adi has no secrets from her....she knows everything about the past and present and he is keeping her in the loop on everything......Imlie's trust MATTERS to him, it is something he has struggled long and hard to win😆.....so he values it.....unlike in Malini's case, where it was just a guilt reflex and obligation to manage Malini ke pouty tantrums.

And yes the other big difference is that Malini ka shak karna may have made Adi feel bad at the most in guilt.....but in Imlie's case, it DEVASTATES him to think Imlie may MU him😆......toh yahaan us vishwaas ki keemat kahin zyada hai......Imlie's trust matters to Adi like Malini's never did....probably cuz he also knew somewhere ki Malini ka trust khokhla hi hai given the constant guilt trips she kept dumping on him about how he doesn't care about her😆

This ! They have everything open between them since forever and woh vishwaas is their need they cannot imagine to lose that trust caz it has value it has brought them this far and adi has struggled to get it from Imlie in this way he gets upset even at the thought of imlie doubting him and not trusting him .. he wants the complete trust and does everything in his control to keep that trust caz even the thought of her not trusting him is enough to make him loose his sanity.. there's is an open relationship where they would discuss anything and everything caz they know the other would understand without judgements

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I have a different take on this.....what haq ki ladaai are they talking about to begin with? 😆

When you feel someone gave you DHOKA, you usually want JUSTICE, not HAQ.....Haq ka toh waise hi faaluda ho chuka hai if whole world knows that the guy made you a second wife.....so what haq are they talking about? The haq of sharing a room and a bed with him when he's told the whole world he's married to someone else? What "haq" will you get then? LOL sab log tum par hasenge that you want to share a bed with a man who is known as kisi aur ka husband😕......just sharing a bed with a guy makes you his wife? Is that the "logic" here? 🤔

I get your point about how they've made Imlie the enemy instead of Adi....but I just feel that the whole haq ki ladaai claims are bullshit too......Yeh koi azaadi ki ladaai nahin chal rahi ki tum apne aap ko revolutionary samajh rahi ho, Didi😆.....Shaadi ke rishte ke haq aise nahin milte.

In a marriage, you can't COMPEL someone to give you haq.....woh haq chheena nahin jata, DIYA jaata hai.....pyar se, maan se.

Yeh baat Imlie bhi shuru se samajh gayi thi which is why she never tried to compel Adi to give her any haq either.......Imlie hid the truth to give someone ELSE a haq that was originally hers....Malini is lying to SNATCH someone else's haq....that is the fundamental difference.

I agree with you that Didi does not have any leg to stand on as the wife because Imlie is the 1st wife whose marriage was not dissolved & who is the actual wife. But if she wants to fight for her relationship with Adi as the woman to whom promises were made & who was in relationship with Adi for 7 years, then also Didi needs to communicate it with Adi. Only Adi as the husband can give her the rights of the wife, not Imlie.

As you said Didi doesn't understand the basic concept of razamandi i.e. consent of the partners involved to be in a relationship. You cannot force someone to be in a relationship with you. She clearly sees that Adi is fully committed to his relationship with Imlie, but still tries to convince herself that she can try to win him back because he gave her support of his hand when she acted to faint. Matlab aisi inconsequential gesture ko she was comparing with the monumental gesture of Adi inviting Imlie into his room. And she is doing all of these cheap tricks by tricking Adi-Imlie that she supports their relationships while what she actually wants is to sabotage their relationship.

I read some comments that Adi was being insensitive to Didi by doing Imlie jaap throughout the epi. He should have kept lihaaz that he is still not divorced with her. But why? Didi has given him the impression that she is in love with someone else & she fully supports Adi-Imlie relationship. He believes that she has also moved on & considers him as a friend only. So why would he think that she would be sensitive about their past relationship.

Originally posted by: Myrah_2020

Haq ki ladai nhi balki chipakne ke baahane sochri h yeh didi toh. Jaante hui bhi that Adi only prioritized Imlie, she said she "needed this" & thanking her mother lol. Needed what 😂 ? Such a chipku woman.🤣Chewing gum ki bubble ki tarah baar baar chop hojati h & mez pe chipak jaati h when she's unnecessary to be present lol.

This whole sudden extra gratitude she's feeling for her Mom simply cuz her Mom helped her get token scraps of attention from Adi......lol it really shows Malini's character in a nutshell to be about clinging to whoever gives in to her demand. This is what must have happened with Adi....he must have done a few token polite gestures and she must have started treating those as the greatest proof of love ever and hyping them.....just like with her mom also she's so filled with gratitude over these lame things.....lol

The same Mom she was berating two days back for kidnapping and getting Adi beaten up is now her BFF cuz she got her an entry into Adi's house and tricks for how to make Adi give her some attention😕

The same Mom that Malini has claimed to be against for so long is now her greatest hero simply for giving in to her demand of "Mujhe Aditya dilaa do"......waah, strong mature Didi waah👏😆.....yeh sudhaarengi desh ka bhavishya? Those poor students of hers need to sent to therapy already cuz god knows what poison she's already filled in their minds.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

LOL much as I'd like to see character growth on this, the makers themselves are doing obviously contrived rinse/repeat scenarios by bringing Malini back to the house in such a way.....so anything is possible with Imlie as well.

Fact is, they've never resolved this angle completely of Imlie leaving in her confusions or sense of despair.....last time when Adi fainted and they talked about all this....even then she wasn't fully convinced by him telling her ki tum beech mein nahin aayi, Malini KC ke saath khush hai blah blah......lol the guilt still constantly lives inside Imlie no matter what ki she may have played a part in hurting Malini.....thode time ke liye woh relax ho jaati hai and starts embracing her happiness but then the guilt comes back cuz someone or the other starts accusing her again and she feels bad.

Adi ne Imlie ko tab bhi daanta tha ki tum bina bataaye chali gayi but overall toh status quo hi raha tha cuz she came back na😆......this issue needs to be talked through in more detail.....Adi has been using the KC angle as a shield to hold back Imlie ka guilt😆.....woh shield hatega toh hi is baat ki teh tak jaa paayenge that they can't live their life waiting for permission from others to live it......let's see if makers want to explore that this time ki bas upar upar se nipta denge phir se😆

This I was gonna say exactly this! she needs to understand it is her life and she doesn’t need didi ki permission everytime ..ke jab bhi isse daura pade they go to play ab mera toy mujhe waapis de and jab mahaan banane ka dil kare toh yeh le ab thodi time tu khel le.. ..she needs to understand she cannot leave her life kisi ke bharose..guilt is one thing and it is fine she will feel bad caz behan hai and all yada yada stupid excuses that I do not believe but woh sab aside she will have to stick up and not depend on didi ki badalte moods that is what I want .. ho jaaye guilty but plz do not run away backing off again and again ...you have done the fair share of that and ab bhi isko karwa denge yehi *sigh* but I want her to say ke look I clearly understand and I sympathize but the truth is we both have the consent to nibhao it while you don't even have that so sorry didi but it is you who would have to give up as simple as that

Originally posted by: AreYaar

This whole sudden extra gratitude she's feeling for her Mom simply cuz her Mom helped her get token scraps of attention from Adi......lol it really shows Malini's character in a nutshell to be about clinging to whoever gives in to her demand. This is what must have happened with Adi....he must have done a few token polite gestures and she must have started treating those as the greatest proof of love ever and hyping them.....just like with her mom also she's so filled with gratitude over these lame things.....lol

The same Mom she was berating two days back for kidnapping and getting Adi beaten up is now her BFF cuz she got her an entry into Adi's house and tricks for how to make Adi give her some attention😕

The same Mom that Malini has claimed to be against for so long is now her greatest hero simply for giving in to her demand of "Mujhe Aditya dilaa do"......waah, strong mature Didi waah👏😆.....yeh sudhaarengi desh ka bhavishya? Those poor students of hers need to sent to therapy already cuz god knows what poison she's already filled in their minds.

You know who actually loves Didi unconditionally like she wants? Imlie.

Imlie is the only person in Didi's life that loves her genuinely but sadly Didi can never recognise & appreciate this fact. Her own family do not understand how to love anyone, all Loservedis are selfish only. Adi never loved her as a partner should & right now he only cares for her as a friend but given Adi's detached personality, his friendship is also very surface level. The elder Ts have their own agenda for loving Didi as she is the high status bahu.

Imlie is the only one who loves her unconditionally like she desires. She loves her as a sister even if Didi barely does the minimum gestures. If Didi genuinely established sister wala relationship with Imlie, she would receive so much love from Imlie. But sadly Didi runs after what is unattainable & rejects what is genuinely & freely given.