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TaanuDeewani

@TaanuDeewani

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#11

Not all of the secret is out Sush...the factory burning is yet to be revealed...God save Sahir when that happens...I agree word to word with Redvoilet...I felt all that too as I was watching the episode...cried through today's epi...Allah knows kal ka epi kaise sahenge...

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MarathiMulgi

@MarathiMulgi

Voyager

Posted: 10 years ago

#12

Apt Song dedication Sush today. Love Adel. 😃 My post today, not sure if many people will like it or not but want to pen it down the way I felt it.

If today's episode was to garner sympathy for Arzoo, why did Sahir take it away from me? If he cruelly burst her bubble, then why I could not feel her pain at all?😕 Right after she fell down, she lost me. I guess I will have to attribute it to SP's inexperience to carry such heavy duty scene. If I overlook it then yes, it was a sad day for Arzoo.😭

I feel that not enough time has passed between love realization, declaration, rejection and betrayal. I mean it all just got wrapped up in what, just a matter of 2-3 days? At least that is how it feels. One needs time to get used to the feeling of being in love, being with the person you love, your interactions with that special someone at least for some significant time before heartbreak happens. It sounds heartless of me but I felt not enough time was spent on build up before it all unraveled.

I applaud Zaki today for not maligning his brother to Arzoo though he had the perfect chance to do so. He did come across as a selfless friend who had Arzoo's good intentions at heart. All that is fine. However from here on, I would really like him to let Arzoo seek out his support rather than him invading her personal space. He needs to deal with Samaira fiasco first and foremost IMO.

In the last scene, if I heard Sahir's dialogues correctly, he is explaining to Arzoo why he told the truth. However I feel, that is not (or should not be) the question Arzoo is asking. Tumse pyar ka natak kar kar ke thak gaya isi liye sach bola. Lekin pyar ka natak karne ki jaroorat hi kya thi in the first place? Yes, you told her about all those mean things you did to her but she wants to know the reason behind them, not just list it down for her. I don't know if I missed something in that convo there.Or should I comment upon it tomorrow since the epi ended while the convo was in progress. 😕

No words from me will make justice to the excellent work Mr. Harshad Chopra is putting into Sahir's character.👏👏

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chicksoup

@chicksoup

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 10 years ago

#13

I have one question.

Why didn't Sahir answer her Q?

The Q was- Why did U do this to me?

He never answered that!

He only told her how he had played the game...why...is a q he never answered...

Precap: I am usually the one to shut my eyes and ears during such scenes...I totally avoid movies with such concepts however widely acclaimed they r...but this...

Of late, I am feeling something I never felt my entire life...I am actually conscious being in the lift with strangers...I don't feel safe....

...and I really found this incident very very relevant..😊

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chicksoup

@chicksoup

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 10 years ago

#14

👏 A big round of applause for Shivya...I found her acting very natural.😳...Well directed scene...the episode belonged to Arzoo, for me...

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-Sush-

@-Sush-

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Posted: 10 years ago

#15

Originally posted by: ultimaterudra
will be back ...

Sush ,

Perfect song by Adele 👏 You nailed the post on Zaki 👏

I am glad Saahir was the one to lay it all out , Thank You CV's . I loved the fact Zaki didn't bad mouth his brother , comforts Arzoo what a friend ...I hope the CV's don't make Zaki's character grey ...

Zeenat won ...It's time CV's reveal Saahir's past .

I am not connecting with Saahir's characterization ... the fault lies with the director and editor ...Saahir goes to Alvira says, stop Zaki ... and next min decides to tell Arzoo his marital status doesn't make sense ...poor screenplay and editing . I want Lalit back ...

Saahir's dialogues were amazing ...

Tumharah dil hi nahi tuta hai Arzoo , saath mei mera dil bhi tootke bhikarh gaya hai
Meineh zakaam tumeh diye hai per un zakamo ka daardh muhje bhi ho raha hai
Ab ye dardh meri zindagi mera wajood bun jayega

"Meri zindagi ne mujhe iss modh par aakar kada kar diya Kyun? " Kyun...
"Ek aarzoo aayi thi, usse bhi maine durr kar diya"

Shweta...first of all...excellent post and lovely collages...

You just killed if with your latest VM...so kudos my friend...!!!

Now ...

Sahir is complex...so far..I think I can relate to his character...even though I may not like some parts that I see...

LM...is missing...

So is the magic from romance...the confession scene, the birthday scene and all that was missing the charm...partly because we knew it was a play...but partly also because the director is not as good...

Have gone down this road of asking for Lalit back...he didn't come back last time...I was the one who left the show...so...not going down that path...no good...

Ok...about Sahirs dialogues...they are very deep...

But you see that's where I stop relating with the Shayar types...it is this self pitying...I have to live with this pain...I am doomed...and all that...

Snap out of if man...make a decision...you are making the previous wife have this hold on you...it is your mindset that is the problem...nothing else...

So would you please stop self mutilating and just get a grip!! Will ya!!

Edited by -Sush- - 10 years ago

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-Sush-

@-Sush-

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 10 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: chicksoup

I have one question.
Why didn't Sahir answer her Q?

The Q was- Why did U do this to me?

He never answered that!

He only told her how he had played the game...why...is a q he never answered...

Precap: I am usually the one to shut my eyes and ears during such scenes...I totally avoid movies with such concepts however widely acclaimed they r...but this...

Of late, I am feeling something I never felt my entire life...I am actually conscious being in the lift with strangers...I don't feel safe....

...and I really found this incident very very relevant..😊

Good question chick...

I think he didn't because he doesn't trust her...to make her his confidant ...and ask her to help...

Why do you think...he didn't? I am curious...

Tomorrow's episode...I think I am skipping...

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Leesan

@Leesan

Rocker

Posted: 10 years ago

#17

Brilliant post as usual Sush, very insightful and though provoking , done in your own unique appealing style! And Shweta delivers as usual, great job both of you , many thanks!

The WUs seem to be on holiday of late so I'm flailing around ,scouring the thread for answers, and just picking up bits and pieces here nd there.But I think I got the gist of today's epi anyhow,if not all the details. 😉

By Sush:"Ok...about Sahirs dialogues...they are very deep...

But you see that's where I stop relating with the Shayar types...it is this self pitying...I have to live with this pain...I am doomed...and all that...

Snap out of if man...make a decision...you are making the previous wife have this hold on you...it is your mindset that is the problem...nothing else...

So would you please stop self mutilating and just get a grip!! Will ya!! "

Leesan: Eggzactly! 👏 You've taken the words straight out of my mouth! Look, I recognize a lot of stuff happens in these shows for dramatic effect,creative license etc, but sometimes it's difficult for me to empathize with these characters who seem to hold on to issues of their past life forever and ever to their own detriment ,and at times to the detriment of everyone else around them. Get a grip people! Life is full of ups and downs, for most people and you have to cope and roll with the punches. There are millions who have it so much worse, and have to soldier on in spite of their harsh realities.

I cannot begin to describe the traumatic events I've encountered through my work, too horrendous to discuss, but I've also witnessed extreme powers of healing, forgiveness and courage from people who've lost everything including their families. Some cope better than others for sure,but the human spirit to survive and move ahead can be truly amazing and humbling to those of us who have so much in comparison.

Maybe I'm missing something here, but I just don't get what all this extreme angst and self mutilation is all about? Seems highly unwarranted to me. So your comatose wife might have insulted and cheated you 7 years ago, when she was all of 22, hey it happens all the time. Spouses die or desert their families everyday , breaking many hearts in the process. Same for parents, it's devastating but life goes on. The ones left behind can't continue to self destruct in this"oh woe is me "mode , yes there's mourning and grieving but life goes on, and so must we. Unless there's some huge past crisis yet to be revealed, all this self flagellation and cutting drama comes across as a bit self indulgent to me. Lets see!

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Ecrivain

@Ecrivain

Stunner

+ 2

Posted: 10 years ago

#18

Yo Sush ...I agree with u today on so many points ..looks like u have just penned down my own thoughts 😆

Shweta lovely collages as usual...😃

To begin with I think the epi was ok but could have been better tied..especially cos the way sahir faked Romance n ket ARZOO on n then abruptly broke her heart didn't quiet explain how it will solve the purpose of getting zaki hitched to Sam ???beats me how a heartbreak will also keep ARZOO away from zaki ...or is he trying to shoo Rehman so tht ARZOO n zaki can be one 😲?.i don't Know but it doesn't make sense as of now

Second shivya sort of Needs to set in the emo scenes cos tht certainly takes away the intensity ..I know she is new n was ok but I defo needed a better than ok ...the epi HAD to belong to ARZOO n should have Made us all cry but it didn't happen at all

Third as much as I feel n connect to sahir 's Pain this was the SECOND self destructive Scene n it's a no go area ...defo doesn't need to be shown on tv ...especially at prime time

Otherwise it was an ok epi ..let's see wht the new years brings in

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chicksoup

@chicksoup

Sparkler

+ 4

Posted: 10 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: -Sush-

Good question chick...
I think he didn't because he doesn't trust her...to make her his confidant ...and ask her to help...
Why do you think...he didn't? I am curious...

Tomorrow's episode...I think I am skipping...

Sush,

Does he himself know the answer to that question?

He said that too...he does not know what part and how much of it is a lie...

How is he to answer that question?

No sushpective tomorrow...😒

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-Sush-

@-Sush-

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 10 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: chicksoup

Sush,

Does he himself know the answer to that question?

He said that too...he does not know what part and how much of it is a lie...

How is he to answer that question?

No sushpective tomorrow...😒

I don't know about tomorrow chick...surely not watching that scene...

I really can't take any kind of violence...not even against oneself...as in self mutilation...

It may be real...but not my idea if entertainment,,...and I don't pretend that a soap is for any other purpose than for entertainment,...

About the question.,,

So, your indication is ...he did it because he wanted to not have Zaki take his love...?

I don't know man...this is all so jumbled up...if you go down that path...

For me what makes sense is...

He had the feeling for Arzoo...

Then he got under pressure for the deal...

And then Zaki fiasco broke...

He knew that Arzoo was soft on him...

So he used that to turn Zaki away from her...