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Posted: 12 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: samantha1987200



He did not do very big thing by not mistrusting her, even if Indira was involved with Kabir intimately , Rishi would have no grounds to be annoyed with her because she was away for 8 long years with severe memory loss.

Indira did not mistrust Rishi either even though he was in his full senses and running after Zara even after he got to know that she is not Indira.

As far as rishi not hiding anything from Indira point is concerned, I have lost count of times he has lied to her and broken her trust...first about being Diwan, about almost killing Indira brother, now about Tauji and his entire misogynistic family. There are so many more instances when he has hidden stuff from Indira.

Rishi committed mistakes he accepted it too but on the point for which she sent him to jail was about his character and he himself was shouting that he didn't do this crime and about trusting,Indira and Kabir shared the same room with Bubli in the middle but still they shared a single room,Rishi could have mistrusted her in that point because he saw them sharing the same room but he didn't that is my point and Indira didn't see Rishi misbehaving with that girl then how could she mistrust him,thats all I want to say.Rishi lied about Vidit and being Diwan,I don't say he was correct but there an insecurity acting of loosing her and about Shweta he didn't love Shweta and about Zara,from the moment Indira returned though he married Zara but he didn't spend a single night with her.

Iam neither an Indira hater nor a Rishi hater.Now you yourself are disbelieving Indira.When Tauji said those words about women,she didn't pay much heed to them,what actually changed her mind was when he said that you are not that kind of woman who accept her defeat so easily.That what affected her and moreover if she doesn't stay here how will she fix the problems in here as we all know it is Indira's duty to fix all social evils.As far as tauji is concerned he still doesn't know what kind of species actually is Indira.He is concerned about her unborn kid and moreover when he will come to know her he himself will regret his own suggestion.
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Posted: 12 years ago
#32

Originally posted by: Walden

I don't know if HD is propogating misogynism or not but I found it quite interesting that the head of the Chandela Diwan household- the most powerful family member who gives orders to everyone else- is none other than a woman I have never understood this contradiction in all saas bahu dramas...the one relegating the bahus to particular gender roles are women who seem to hold the position of the most powerful in the family- a role that in a misogynistic society would be typically reserved for men. How strange!


It seems you have a very poor concept of misogyny. Amu is head of the family based on her age not her gender. Also, women can be misogynists too. I don't know how a woman who promotes sex determination, wants a male heir, uses terms such baanj, etc can be anything but a misogynist. Also her source of power is glorification of male sex.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Paulomi-


Rishi committed mistakes he accepted it too but on the point for which she sent him to jail was about his character and he himself was shouting that he didn't do this crime and about trusting,Indira and Kabir shared the same room with Bubli in the middle but still they shared a single room,Rishi could have mistrusted her in that point because he saw them sharing the same room but he didn't that is my point and Indira didn't see Rishi misbehaving with that girl then how could she mistrust him,thats all I want to say.Rishi lied about Vidit and being Diwan,I don't say he was correct but there an insecurity acting of loosing her and about Shweta he didn't love Shweta and about Zara,from the moment Indira returned though he married Zara but he didn't spend a single night with her.Iam neither an Indira hater nor a Rishi hater.Now you yourself are disbelieving Indira.When Tauji said those words about women,she didn't pay much heed to them,what actually changed her mind was when he said that you are not that kind of woman who accept her defeat so easily.That what affected her and moreover if she doesn't stay here how will she fix the problems in here as we all know it is Indira's duty to fix all social evils.As far as tauji is concerned he still doesn't know what kind of species actually is Indira.He is concerned about her unborn kid and moreover when he will come to know her he himself will regret his own suggestion.


Rishi had no reason to mistrust Indira, she was not a part of his life for 8 years and was suffering from memory loss. So even if something sexual happened b/w indira and kabir, it would be consensual. Infact, rishi was not even Indira's husband at that time.
Also there is a difference b/w consent and non consent. All odds were against Rishi and he had lied to her countless times and had done things that Indira never expected from him either. I am not saying Indira was right in sending him to jail just that it was a natural reaction. And she apologised for it too.

But this topic isn't about Indira and Rishi , it's about the current and the negative impact it can have if the protagonist's denial isn't strong enough. Also the protagonists husband should be shown supporting her not forcing her to do something she doesn't believe in.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: samantha1987200


Rishi had no reason to mistrust Indira, she was not a part of his life for 8 years and was suffering from memory loss. So even if something sexual happened b/w indira and kabir, it would be consensual. Infact, rishi was not even Indira's husband at that time.
Also there is a difference b/w consent and non consent. All odds were against Rishi and he had lied to her countless times and had done things that Indira never expected from him either. I am not saying Indira was right in sending him to jail just that it was a natural reaction. And she apologised for it too.

But this topic isn't about Indira and Rishi , it's about the current and the negative impact it can have if the protagonist's denial isn't strong enough. Also the protagonists husband should be shown supporting her not forcing her to do something she doesn't believe in.


Iam not at all supporting the fact of Rishi being quiet and neither accepting him as a total faultless person.What exactly is going through his mind only he knows and I can only assume that he might be waiting for the right moment.Well his silence is very debating.Different people have different assumptions in that.

I said na I fully trust Indira.She will not leave this weired family until and unless she teaches them the difference between right or wrong otherwise obviously there was no use of introducing such family.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: samantha1987200


Look John or whatever your name is. It is you who his not getting the point. Don't blame your poor comprehension of the topic on me. I never brought the characters in the topic. My point was the impact of the current track on public.It is you who brought the difference between Rishi and Indira. My post is against rape culture and reinforcing gender stereotypes and social evils promoted in the show. And also I did not compare rape with money laundering . I just said that since Rishi has lied to Indira countless times and engaged in things that Indira believed Rishi never would, its likely that she'll mistrust him and its a natural psychological response.

Like, it or not Indira is a much better person than Rishi although she's going through insanity at moment and like it or not she is protagonist of the show. Fine you are Rishi's fan , no one is forcing you to hate him just stop justifying his behavior time and again.

And this my last reply to you as you clearly haven't gotten the point of the post. So see ya.


whatever... this is my last reply to you too considering you are clearly a fan of indira. moreover you are clearly turning a blind eye to the part indira herself has played in putting herself into difficult situations in past. so no point in discussing this any further.
lastly, i never said rishi is perfect coz he has his own flaws so if my previous post sounds like i was justifying rishi's mistakes, so be it coz u never got my point either. good bye
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Posted: 12 years ago
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This show is a typical Female dominated show where every male character is being degraded to glorify the female species right from day 1 !! 🤔 and I don't think they have shown a single element where a male is being shown Right ( not even in this track ) except the female lead of this show !!😳
And I don't think society is full of prejudies against women only! It is against Men too! Both Men and Women are equally sufferring in the society! 😊

About Ila Bedi : Very cheap personality I say !!🤢

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malayraj

This show is a typical Female dominated show where every male character is being degraded to glorify the female species right from day 1 !! 🤔 and I don't think they have shown a single element where a male is being shown Right ( not even in this track ) except the female lead of this show !!😳

And I don't think society is full of prejudies against women only! It is against Men too! Both Men and Women are equally sufferring in the society! 😊

About Ila Bedi : Very cheap personality I say !!🤢

Not even in this society in this show also.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Malayraj

This show is a typical Female dominated show where every male character is being degraded to glorify the female species right from day 1 !! and I don't think they have shown a single element where a male is being shown Right ( not even in this track ) except the female lead of this show !!And I don't think society is full of prejudies against women only! It is against Men too! Both Men and Women are equally sufferring in the society! About Ila Bedi : Very cheap personality I say !!



Yeah right, its men who are raped on minutely basis, its men who denied education, its male foeticide and infanticide not female, its males who are victims of dowry deaths, its males who are forced to wear burqas and purdah, its males who suffer from acid attacks, its males who are thrown into prostitution, its men who are s**t shamed and its men who are expected to undergo ridiculous fasts and wear marriage symbols. It a male child that is considered a burden.

Get a reality check !!!!
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Posted: 12 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: samantha1987200


Yeah right, its men who are raped on minutely, its men who denied education, its male foeticide and infanticide not female, its males who are victims of dowry deaths, its males who are forced to wear burqas and purdah, its males who suffer from acid attacks, its males who are thrown into prostitution, its men who are s**t shamed and its men who are expected to undergo ridiculous fasts and wear marriage symbols. It a male child that is considered a burden.
Get a reality check !!!!


bravo👏 agree i dont know why these people are against woman i mean the world is full of male dominated in everything and its woman who suffer a lot in reality whether its work or other things woman always suffered more and more than men and only a female can understand this, men are not angels ,, female suffer in hands of male in day to day life and so many news regarding this!! recent gang rape in delhi is a good example so sad a woman cannot travel alone anywhere in this male dominated world what do men suffer 😕 its always a woman who suffer a lot atleast telly gives some importance to woman and show them as brave and strong person and most woman want to be like them is a good thing and there is nothing wrong with it.. we have to support that not bash them. woman have equal right like men and we have to be proud that telly give importance to woman oriented show but in outside world and in reality its only male dominated thats the truth
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: samantha1987200



Yeah right, its men who are raped on minutely basis, its men who denied education, its male foeticide and infanticide not female, its males who are victims of dowry deaths, its males who are forced to wear burqas and purdah, its males who suffer from acid attacks, its males who are thrown into prostitution, its men who are s**t shamed and its men who are expected to undergo ridiculous fasts and wear marriage symbols. It a male child that is considered a burden.

Get a reality check !!!!

dude, there is nothing wrong in wearing marriage symbols and having fasts! 😊
Infact it shows how much a woman loves her husband!😊

Seems like you hate Male species so much thats why you can't feel the pain of Males , the difficulties they face in their lives etc., !! not every woman is saint and not every man is evil ! Sad but No one can change your pathetic mentality towards Man !🤢

keep going! All the best! 👍🏼
Edited by Malayraj - 12 years ago

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