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I would have definitely applauded Indira even if she was a man...bcos considering d kind of family dat she needed 2 feed n take care of is horrendous...regardless of the gender anyone wud acknowledge d fact dat a sole person is taking care of the whole family without expecting anything in return...n wen d family in question is sharma family den dat person certainly needs 2 b appreciated be it indira or shweta or evn rishi..bt rishi has nvr been shown 2 take up any responsibility as well hence d woman power rules in HD...😛
evn wen vidit was supposed 2 enter all wer anticipating dat he n indira will manage SN bt things turned out 2 b different...
n its just nt abt praising Indira all d time...ppl around her r nt evn worth appreciating n thats what makes her all d more gr8!!! if anyone in her family would hv atleast cared 2 share her responsibilty i wud hv definitely applauded dat person 4 doing so be it male or female...plus in our society if u see asingle fathermanaging his kids n home as wellhis work he isalways thought highly of...in a similar manner if a woman does so why cant she be appreciated...??? a housewife is nvr given credit 4 managing a family...dat can give rise 2 another debate...</div>ni guess u hv justread posts whr Indira has been applauded bt probably conveniently ignored posts whr she has been bashed n Rishi has been considered gr8 4 every damn thing dat he does...so i guess evn she deserves a word of appreciation 4 her selfless deeds...!!!!!i wonder if ppl hv problm wid Indira being given d limelight n praised or they really do want a change in perception 2wards d society...😕<div>finally its a matter of perception n nt hw forward our thinking is...as sumone replied in ur post dat if she were a man no 1 wud hv applauded her..i dnt think so...4get d society we shud start wid ourselves...if we cant appreciate her nw we will definitely nt appreciate her evr...!!!!!
I couldn't have said it better shilpa. Yes I appreciate television industry that they are coming up with male oriented shows. Like I mentioned in my post that those people who excel in any field are given same level of respect in society regardless of gender. And this is the change we are seeing in television industry also.1 more thing dat i want 2 put forth here is dat we all r debating upon dat if we d society doesnt appreciate a male 4 wat he does den why appreciate a female as well...i think its a regressive approach acc 2 me...
infact we shud appreciate both of dem regardless of d gender n nt d other way round...evn in d show Veera a brother is taking care of her small sister...evn if its his duty, its sumthing praiseworthy 2 do such a thing at dis tender n young age...evn our tv industry has started working in dat direction...evn male-centric shows hv come into picture...thr was a certain era in d tv industry whr all female-centric shows wer shown...thr d females wer shown 2 b weak n like a damsel in distress...it reflected d reality of d society then in d 90's..2day thr r many shows dat show female characters as working women, doing multi-tasking...its reflecting d present scenario...no whr has d male been focussed upon bcos he is already respected in d society in contrast 2 d female-counterpart...its always a woman who is looked down upon in d society...what we see on tv is all a reflection of d society...hence we shud definitely encourage both rather than nt appreciating any!!!!!
<font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">First of all my thanks to D for appreciating, next i will like to make few points on which some people questioned me. I want to make it clear at first that read it with context to this post only NOT forum topics and other things</font>.
- <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Indira is just doing what a member of family should have done. In India, if a joint family is there, many times all the sons of family are not equally good and earning. In that case usually one son takes charge of whole family and nourishes them, and it is taken as their duty, we can't label them as any mahanta or award them with big prizes. There is a big margin between Duties and Humanity.</font>
- <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Duty means its your Moral Responsibility rather than your pleasure (searched by google) so that its again not questionable😆so what Indira did was her duties, she has blood relations with that family and if she will not take care of that who else will? Just because she is a girl can not only make her great i am sorry, if all the family members turn out to be cripple does that mean the only person who can take care of them will fled away? Definately NO. The society made relations to bind individuals and distribute them their duties, and a person offering his/her duty can never be proclaimed Mahan just because of the tag "i am a lady".</font>
- <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Humanity means the action of helping someone without having any moral obligations. I didn't wanted to elaborate but i will be taking instances from HD itself. Zara M. Khan when stood for little Indu not even having any connections with her is called humanity, the care of Indira towards Ishaan, Munna, Mandira, Kutumb, Inder can NEVER come under this but its is uner DUTY. The act of Rishi standing for raped Mandira against His own brother comes under Humanity. Zara was about to shot Malik Khan being her husband, also comes under Humanity, this can be considered greatness not just ones act of serving her own family</font>
- <font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" size="3">Indira did many things but they were ones which any responsible daughter would have done, mere standing for own blood cant make a difference. That why nation awards army men who sacrifice themselves leaving sentiments and emotions associated with their family apart NOT the ones who stay in their homes and struggle among themselves. We must first understand the definition of greatness, I call Zara Great because she stood for a nation NOT indira Who kept fighting among the struggles created by herself in her home only.</font>
Originally posted by: Surbhi123
First i will like to raise a question...does men actually do the things that women do that women are needed to work on both the sides ? And let me make you remember even if it is a man ruled world ...that man got birth from a women only .He can't come in world without women . And why every man says that there is a women behind him for all his success ????I never saw man doing all the household work when a wife is working...even if he is not working . Why ?????? Why should wife manage both the things...today everyone wants a working wife and most handover the household duties too to the working girl...to compare a girl with a boy...people raise certain questions that she isn't doing...isn't doing that then why the same questions are not raised when a father of a child is compared to both mother and father of a child if mom is not there . He certainly don't do all the responsibilities a mom will do . He isn't cooking food with love...sometimes dad aren't able to understand their child . A connection which mom holds with child can never be hold by a father . Than why do we agree when we praise a person for upbringing a child and say that he has been a father and mother both to the child ...? Aren't these double standards ?????
Coming to the main concern here . If indira was a son ...i will certainly explain you with a beautiful example...Rishi is a son here ???? right ???? Do he live with his parents ????Ever cared for them ?????Did he showed a little sorrow after sending his mother to jail ???? Ok she was wrong...but not even a glimpse of sadness ????? She was the same mother who gave birth to him...made him a lawyer...everything requires money in today's world and yes all what rishi's mother did was with the money from their hard work . And no child can grew himself when he is day one . So certainly love has been there for rishi in simi . But even being a son...did rishi ever thought of his responsibilities towards his family . He continued to spread his parents money in ayaashi abroad and after that too never looked back to family but has always been taking advantages from them . So ...see this type of sons also exist in world . And ya i certainly will not be proud of these sons . The second kind of sons are in which they work with quiet a members of the family . All work for the progress of the family . And take care of each other . And there is a third category too...of people who live for their family...nothing other than the family matters . And once again i will give you two real life examples . First is of Arjun Bijlani ...He spoil his dreams...just for his brother studies...got into modelling but not with his choice but because of the need of the family . His father was his idol...and he leaved him at a very small age . What all courage he showed ...by taking over the family at such a small age , crushing his dreams ...that does makes me respect him . And same is the case with one my di's ...she takes care of the whole family...as father got accident...And every one in the family do feel thankful to them for their decisions...because that wasn't a responsibility ...atleast not at that age ...when they were pursuing their studies . Circumstances affected the situations . Indira here relates with arjun.and my di ..She had to start working...it wasn't a decision of choice...she had to ...and she deserves the family being thankful to her too but she never got that . Still the girl never leaved the family alone...she was more of a mother to ishan...a best sister to munna...and a daughter whom every person will wish for indar and kutumb . This is the reason the character was proudly awarded with both best beti and best behen awards . She loved her family endless ...but yup always expected the love back too . And why not she should expect...didn't arjun got it ??????...doesn't every person in that situation...which made so many sacrifices deserves that ?It's a natural tendency...a human beings tends to be attracted to love . I would have loved indira equally if she was a son . My love would have not been a little less for the char . And we have these kind of male characters on television...and everyone is appreciated...from maan to arnav to rk to asad...let me remind you ...all are immensely popular ..its just we don't have the kind of family that hd possess . Every family do have that feeling of gratitude . Except hd family but i still won't agree that illa is showing wrong...because she is showing reality . Sadly such family do exists . She through this show is lightening the biased somewhere only . And is encouraging women's to come out of that holes which they are grabbed in by the society . Telling us that we need to face the world...if we want this place to be a neutral one . She through this show have certainly put light on that if a girl is subjected to eve teasing...she should not feel guilty about it...it should not be a thing to cry on...as its not her mistake...she should teach the eve teaser a lesson at that point only by slapping him...insulting him so he does not repeat the same thing with some other girl . Yes forgiving every time isn't a solution . And don't tell me that person doesn't deserve punishment . Because if that's your mentality...than i cannot help . Illa has showed that no one has the right to even to think of taking advantage of a girl...she needs to be respected...and why not...the same person who see a girl with a bad mentality ...prays to a goddess for his well being on diwali . Moreover with this show...she has put lights on many things the society faces and showed women emerging out as winners to encourage girls throughout india . Through mandira...she told that if a girl is raped...it isn't her mistake...she should fight for justice rather than sitting home . And there are tremendous times the show has send messages . The recent one was when she showed those ward boys getting beaten up with the sticks ...yes that should be the case...no girl should be subjected to such torture . And people having such eyes on girls should be beaten publicly . Now if you feel...the six persons who did that with damini does not deserve to be hanged ...just because they are also humans...than my answer is they are not . Media change the title for men to men is a social animal to men is an animal . Today every delight wants to kill them including me and that will not be called violence but will be the perfect punishment for such people so that such things don't get repeated there . I salute illa for bringing in this concept...but then every show has some flaws and this show too has some .
Originally posted by: Surbhi123
Now this is even double standards...in a post...where its about gender bias...the female lead should be talked about and not the male one . Why ????Of course he is the male hero of show and examples will be given through him/about him .
And if there is no need to talk about rishi...why there is a need to talk about indira ????????
if we are allowed to discuss indira's responsibility...why not of the male gender ???? Doesn't the same things apply to him as well ????
And the post mentions that indira should not be respected / love because she is ordinary girl( which i don't agree with )...than i ask what is rishi...to get the appreciation ?????...And don't tell me he has never been appreciated in forum . What are the actual problems with indira getting appreciated...even when she deserve appreciation ?You feel girls should always be subdued...should not fight for their rights . I disagree...
one more thing - regarding getting insecure...sweetheart we are fans of Rati Pandey...an immensely popular actress from last 4 -5 years...we don't to be insecure of anything/anyone ...
..Regarding bringing RP ...you said we are insecure of your hero...the answer was to that...so first check what you said...😊Originally posted by: light_28
Again u prove your deliberate needs ! Wow i am amazed..
I am talking about any girl Indira sharma! There must be sum girl lyk indira character in this world ryt . The topic was abt what if there wud have been a man at indira lyk situation. Its about the character. Frm where did RP cum here ? Rp is an actress who is nt living like indira. Her lyf is totally diffrnt and i am well aware of it. You need to place RP and Indira atleast once if you claim to be her fans
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