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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pari117

Hey. At first i want to tell here love is not the seasonal fruit which will change its colour, at first it was shown rishi accepting zara the way she isaccepting zara the way she is, for the world indira was dead, now rishi is standing at juncture where his past and present are both before him, today indira's condition is not that way to discuss these all issues, and she needs rishi the mosttoday indira's condition is not that way to discuss these all issues, and she needs rishi the most, so the acts of rishi were totally just according to me, it would have been cheating only if rishi denied about the love he had for zara, he loved her with true heart, not just because of her body which resembles indira but because of her soulnot just because of her body which resembles indira but because of her soul, so the statement of rishi that he loves zara shouldnt be kept into controversy. So please before questioning rishi, you can question zara why she didn't asked rishi before "if life brings back indira, then whom he ll choosebefore questioning rishi, you can question zara why she didn't asked rishi before "if life brings back indira, then whom he ll choose"

Hey Pari

About Rishi accepting Zara the way she is, how exactly do you mean that? Until well into their acquaintance, until Zara asked him whether he would love her even if she was NOT Indira, he had not for a moment doubted that she was his Shrimatiji. So there, I fail to see the point you are making. If you mean that he did not request her to change her name, her attire, and so on, then I agree. He accepted her as she is, but still managed to impose his image of Indira on her. I mean, she pays the water bill and everyone in the family is convinced that she is Indira. There was also the fact that she resembled Indira in lots of ways.

About Rishi denying his love for Zara, my only question is how does he see this shaping in the future? That is all. I did not get into whether his love for Zara is pure or not. In fact, I really think he is confused about 'love' overall. To clarify, he perhaps has feelings, but cannot distinguish sympathy from love. Happens to many. But because I say this, it neither means that I am questioning him nor bashing him.

About Zara questioning, I think she has been doing it with a fair bit of regularity. She had even left for Mumbai to deliberately put distance between them and find out what she's really feeling.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pari117

Hey. At first i want to tell here love is not the seasonal fruit which will change its colour, at first it was shown rishi accepting zara the way she is, for the world indira was dead, now rishi is standing at juncture where his past and present are both before him, today indira's condition is not that way to discuss these all issues, and she needs rishi the most, so the acts of rishi were totally just according to me, it would have been cheating only if rishi denied about the love he had for zara, he loved her with true heart, not just because of her body which resembles indira but because of her soul, so the statement of rishi that he loves zara shouldnt be kept into controversy. So please before questioning rishi, you can question zara why she didn't asked rishi before "if life brings back indira, then whom he ll choose"

Pari, I love this question! In the telly universe, one has to be prepared for anything and return of the dead and humshakals is toh nothing. There should be handbook for these characters: telly serials for dummies. For Rishi- he needs to read "Humshakals and return of the dead" 🤣
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Kanan,nice post,and very well judged.You know what,I believe Rishi still believes his heart,which he feels connected to Zara;but now he is listening to his head blindly.And all thanks to the explicit writing and CVs of "HD".They have made a mockery of marriage earlier,and now they're making a mockery of love.Besides,one thing is for sure that,Zara is indeed Indira,and her new "jung" now will be to win back her identity,her love and her relations.
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: AllThingsNice

Hey Pari

About Rishi accepting Zara the way she is, how exactly do you mean that? Until well into their acquaintance, until Zara asked him whether he would love her even if she was NOT Indira, he had not for a moment doubted that she was his Shrimatiji. So there, I fail to see the point you are making. If you mean that he did not request her to change her name, her attire, and so on, then I agree. He accepted her as she is, but still managed to impose his image of Indira on her. I mean, she pays the water bill and everyone in the family is convinced that she is Indira. There was also the fact that she resembled Indira in lots of ways.

About Rishi denying his love for Zara, my only question is how does he see this shaping in the future? That is all. I did not get into whether his love for Zara is pure or not. In fact, I really think he is confused about 'love' overall. To clarify, he perhaps has feelings, but cannot distinguish sympathy from love. Happens to many. But because I say this, it neither means that I am questioning him nor bashing him.

About Zara questioning, I think she has been doing it with a fair bit of regularity. She had even left for Mumbai to deliberately put distance between them and find out what she's really feeling.

first of all i love fair arguements, so i'll write my points and if you cut them you are most welcome, i belive in what i see, so starting it from zero, yes i agree he saw indira in zara and started seeing indira's image in her, and later when he was questioned from zara "if she is not his indira then" he sink within by this statement and avoided confrontation with her, because he himself was confused about it, but further he made it clear he loves zara. You said it right sometimes, somewhere we can't distinguish between love and indebtness (instead of sympathy i will use this) he accepted zara, but his past came his way, indira was the biggest part of his life and no doubt, she is the biggest part even today, but with time everything gets changed or modified, i am not saying he forgot indira, but he started loving zara, and today definately its indira who needs him the most, zara is self sufficient but indira needs a support, noone can accept such person who can't even take care of themselves, if a mother has denied calling her a daughter, what more can be expected from others. So if rishi is choosing caring indira, i don't find anything wrong here. And regarding his feelings for zara he is clear he own feelings for her but he can't accept her at present, because now his priority is indira, such issues may put a bad effect over indira, so i'm fine with rishi's acts
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Walden


</div><div>Pari, I love this question! In the telly universe, one has to be prepared for anything and return of the dead and humshakalsis toh nothing. There should be handbook for these characters: telly serials for dummies. For Rishi- he needs to read "Humshakals and return of the dead" 🤣


oh god D I'm like 🤣 they have made the slogan "jindagi jung hai" so prominent, that they don't think for a second butchering a character 😆 just to make ONE character mahan 😆 and now there are lookalikes of mahan character, so lets see who becomes comparatively more mahan 😃 be ready for "mahan race" D
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pari117

first of all i love fair arguements, so i'll right my points and if you cut them you are most welcome,if you cut them you are most welcome, i belive in what i see, so starting it from zero, yes i agree he saw indira in zara and started seeing indira's image in her, and later when he was questioned from zara "if she is not his indira then" he sink within by this statement and avoided confrontation with her, because he himself was confused about it, but further he made it clear he loves zarahe made it clear he loves zara. You said it right sometimes, somewhere we can't distinguish between love and indebtness (instead of sympathy i will use this) he accepted zara, but his past came his way, indira was the biggest part of his life and no doubt, she is the biggest part even today, but with time everything gets changed or modified, i am not saying he forgot indira, but he started loving zara,i am not saying he forgot indira, but he started loving zara, and today definately its indira who needs him the most, zara is self sufficient but indira needs a support, noone can accept such person who can't even take care of themselves, if a mother has denied calling her a daughter, what more can be expected from others. So if rishi is choosing caring indira, i don't find anything wrong here. And regarding his feelings for zara he is clear he own feelings for her And regarding his feelings for zara he is clear he own feelings for her but he can't accept her at present, because now his priority is indira, such issues may put a bad effect over indira, so i'm fine with rishi's acts

@bold-1: First off, I think there was no point in mentioning that I am looking for meaningful discussion. Believe it or not, I was (now I wonder what I was thinking!). For me, its not about holding on to my viewpoint against all odds. I will hold on to it until I am convinced about another viewpoint.

@bold-2: When he admitted he loves Zara, was it because he loved her? Or did he confess because he was scared of losing someone who reminded him so much about Indira? There is a definite difference between the two. We cannot say "its love all the same" and wish it away. So, then, now that Indira is right there in front of him, and he has already married Zara in haste, where does he see his relationship with Zara going? Again, as far as he is concerned, this is Indira because she is partially burned, has brain tumour, and her fingerprints match. He had no answer when Zara asked him "aapka dil bhi yehi kehta hai na?"

@bold-3 and 4: I really don't know about this. He never let go of Indira and I am not sure he loved Zara for the person she was. I think I'll never be able to get this across effectively, but I think he is not clear about his feelings for Zara.

Not once did I touch upon the Lahorewali Indira's need for care and support because that her need cannot be questioned. I had said this in an earlier thread/post that Rishi and Zara's sympathy for the Lahorewali will drive the story forward. We can wait and watch what happens, but its not the most desirable thing because the motivation for these actions will drive them to a result that is different from the intended one.

This was not intended to cut any argument but to present some points that bother me. I would completely agree with Earnshaw. This has turned into mockery all the way.

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ranjinikishan


what did he say today? he was only silent through out the episode, he just spoke few words that too when he was with zara..he said proofs are saying LW as indira but never said i dont love u anymore..common give him some time..he himself is very shocked..at this point of time he cant leave LW as she is mentally & physically weak..he has to take care of her..btw zara did ask him whether he is believing LW as indira from his heart & he said nothing for that because he still in confusion

He is in such a critical condition aur aap sab usko istarah bash karraheho..really bad..this forum never understands Rishi properly


koi bash nehi kar raha hai Rishi ne Zara se kaha ke kya aapko mere pyar par bharosa nehi hai kya?Ab Zara ke jagah par khud ko rakh kar socho uski kya condition hai.Main jaanti hu ke Rishi is confused right at this moment but still us waqt mujhe bohot ajeeb laga ye dialogue
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Posted: 12 years ago
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I support healthy debates which consists of cutting points, so don't take it the other way. Regarding Rishi, its just that he is standing in the mid way of past and present. The one who faces it can only justify it. We keep on thinking why he did dat? Why he chose that? But the real answer lies in "what we would have done if we were at his place" thats all i wanted to say.
I support his acts because he is doing what a normal man would have done.
Thanks for replying me. Tc
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Posted: 12 years ago
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Originally posted by: Pari117

I support healthy debates which consists of cutting points, so don't take it the other way. Regarding Rishi, its just that he is standing in the mid way of past and present. The one who faces it can only justify it. We keep on thinking why he did dat? Why he chose that? But the real answer lies in "what we would have done if we were at his place" thats all i wanted to say.
I support his acts because he is doing what a normal man would have done.

Thanks for replying me. Tc

@bold-1: Thanks for clarifying...in my workplace, this has a negative connotation. Hence, got a little hyper.

@bold-2:Exactly...my post today was looking at the situation from Zara's perspective. That's all. Because he has married her, the whole situation changes.

PS: Am glad that normal men are not the HD variety. Otherwise, our lives would have been a serious jung!

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Posted: 12 years ago
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Hi Kanan I just saw the episode !! I cannot start my post with" I agree with you "because I do not!!!
In fact I liked the episode!! I think Rishi' and Zara did fantastic non verbal ,heart to heart communication !! They both were very good at it!!! Great actors !!!
Whole weekend I was thinking ( knowing this is absurd story line ) what would I do if I am Rishi and What would I do if I am Zara but I am so happy that I am niether of them .I am surprise to see they both had strength to face each other verbally. I would have ran way to no mans land!!
After long time, I liked the way they wrote RIshis character and his dialogs for him. Indu and LW was standing right there He couldnot say he is married. It would have been very painful as father to break Indus heart. The relation ship is just getting better and he wanted to be first one to tell her about his marriage to ZARA , I was expecting denial from ZARA because as expected ,she will be made Mahan . I thought ZARA did exactly , what INdira would have done,That wa very interesting !!
I was happy about one more thing that no more Sharma nivas Bacho track!! Rishi has it!! Way to go INDIRA!!
I loved the staircase conversation including LW attempt to pronounce Shrimatiji. I Was happy to see Rishi did not ditched ZARa saying " I found my love and you are just big mistake" if he had done this , I would have killed him with my bare hands !! I thought he had some integrity !! I still think that he has some doubts . they played Ahatney music during the scene so it was very symbolic connection !!
Rishi and Zara in very difficult position!!! They both still love each other. I think Zara likes the fact that he is taking care of helpless LW ( I still,refused believe she is Indira ) . I think it's about time that Zara starts the investigation. It's 8 yrs late. I want DNA tat repeated with Indira's parent and Indu to confirmed identity but this will never happen. We need to get MK back in the story! Now LW in Barsati where ZARA going to steep? Very sad twist for Zara and Rishi. I felt very bad for both of them but very happy to see they both love each other and it shows. We might get some romantic scenes in the future!!
But like Pari said we need to wait and see . That whom Rishi chooses , when they unfold the story !!!!!

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