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Originally posted by: dmg2c

i think its a matter of time before arpi realizes what bhauji is doing , even if she doesnt figure out her motives or why she is doing it...but she will certainly figure out that bhauji is trying to separate them and not for their good either....

and then she will strike back...what she did today was in the spur of the moment and i cant blame her...but she will soon realize the strenght of her adversary and put up a more sensible, patient and better strategized retaliation...

and then it will be a tussle between the two women over avi and his mind....one to pull him down into the deepest abyss of darkness and crime from where there is no possibility of redemption...and the other to pull him out of this abyss before he slips in too deep and try to illuminate the deepest corners of his heart and soul with the realization of the right path, and of the folly of his ways...for it is not enough to tell a wanderer that he is on the wrong path, it is equally if not more important to show him the right one...and as i have said earlier, my only hope is arpi....

and for the sake of my beloved avdheswa, succeed she must....

Originally posted by: vista90pro

Reserved

(in a hurry to get to work😊......will post later)

Well, to begin with, Dreamy, thanks for the very well-thought and earnest post👏 Loved the sun and shadows imagery ......you go, girl!⭐️👏 Thanks, I look forward to your posts as well.😊

Laxmi, Nadini, CB: Great points .......so agree with all that you guys have written.👍🏼

Few things that I want to add:

Part of the problem here is our sensibilities. I was thinking of making a thread on this but, ..oh well😃

We all come to this show with our so called modern sensibilities that have taught us(correctly, if I may add) to frown upon and recoil from physical violence, to resolve conflict through dialogue and the spoken word, not fisticuffs. As such, this level of brutality at the hands of ODB, is off-putting, to say the least. But, we have to remember the story, setting and mileu of the show is very different from what we probably come across in our daily lives and we had been warned at the very beginning............so I guess, I can understand both the show and the reaction of some of the viewers..... oh gosh, hope I am making sense😆 Absolutely.😉

At the risk of repeating myself, at this stage of the story, ODB is not exactly at the peak of emotional maturity.....who/what defines emotional maturity?😊...I think Sona used the word, unidimensional..........that is not to say that he does not suffer twinges of conscience when he sees Arpi, but on the whole, he is in Avenger mode and that is the way he is likely to be till either he finishes his business, or something else comes up that throws the picture into a different light altogether Agree. Arpi, to him in this mode, is just a distraction, who with her claim on his affections, with her beauty and tears, is interfering with his mission. Hence the resentment. She also reminds of the promises her made to her and her mother, and he realizes that he unable to fulfill those promises right now and that adds to disquiet he feels when he sees her. 👍🏼 spot on.

Also, deep down, IMHO, he rationalizes his actions and attitude towards Arpi by telling himself that they have made all those vows and promises to stand by each other through thick and thin..........so she should understand Agree, he hasn't come to the point yet that he owes her the same as well. She should realise how important this is to him and thus should stand by him and support him.....now that she is his ardhangini. I was expecting a scene where he verbalises this to Arpi, but I guess, Dreamy you are right in saying that he is staying away because he doesn't trust himself to not get swayed when he is in her vicinity. Indeed, if he even gets close, let himself forget the anger, the fury.....he will fall at her feet and just stay there forever...than who will avenge the deaths?..too much guilt for the survivor....it is classic survivor complex.

The other issue, that of Manjari..........I think she has served the dramatic device of the reluctant facilitator well till now.......she was the one who delivered the letter to ODB, that set the ball rolling for Arpi's eventual rescue. But if it really pans out as some have suggested, where MCR comes complaining that his daughter is not being treated right, then that would be highly farcical......he is the last person on earth who can complain😡 MC complaining, no you are right about that....but her mother could intervene...Avi has a soft spot for mothers, we have seen...or other devices could be used...again it is all in the execution.....this is to further the love story and to also up the conflict...Avi won't let Arpi out of his life, he will fight it to the death > this is in conflict with Bhouji's plan to use him against Lal Singh = Avi has a big internal/external struggle which will make him act crazy at times.....

Btw, Dreamy hope you saw the BJ dialogue translation that I did for you😃 where is it?...is it here? will have a look. Thanks😊

Do let me know people if all this above makes any sense 😛 or I was just shooting my mouth away😉😆 (like button will not hurt😉) makes perfect sense. We can speculate like anything about the character's motive but the CVs have creative licence to turn any of these upside down or have them do whatever they want to further the plot.

Thanks and luv you all🤗Same here, thanks for posting.😊

Vista

Originally posted by: dmg2c

i think its a matter of time before arpi realizes what bhauji is doing , even if she doesnt figure out her motives or why she is doing it...but she will certainly figure out that bhauji is trying to separate them and not for their good either....Agree, only matter of time till Arpi see's bhauji's true face..

and then she will strike back...what she did today was in the spur of the moment and i cant blame her...but she will soon realize the strenght of her adversary and put up a more sensible, patient and better strategized retaliation...I don't blame her as well...she was shocked to see this. People say she knew what he was...let me remind, she is 18yrs old, never spent time with him at all nor speak to him...all she knew was he did good..she heard those words from the police wallah (when chirag was kidnapped) that Avdesh is good and etc and she believed. However, knowing and seeing it is different...nothing can prepare one for that kind of violence...also fear was involved, the man she loves more than herself was like a stranger at that moment...she spoke to him as his wife, her every right...she learnt today to pick her moment wisely and will learn more in the coming days...for fool me once, shame on you..fool me twice, shame on me really applies here and she is not a fool.

and then it will be a tussle between the two women over avi and his mind....one to pull him down into the deepest abyss of darkness and crime from where there is no possibility of redemption...and the other to pull him out of this abyss before he slips in too deep and try to illuminate the deepest corners of his heart and soul with the realization of the right path, and of the folly of his ways...for it is not enough to tell a wanderer that he is on the wrong path, it is equally if not more important to show him the right one...and as i have said earlier, my only hope is arpi....That is exactly what I said in the opening post😊. I only hope this does not become a saas-bahu tussle...

and for the sake of my beloved avdheswa, succeed she must....Indeed.😊

very well written Dreamy👏

Originally posted by: prcns

very well written Dreamy👏

yup, its only bhaiyajji's story but poor guy is surrounded by so many things.....