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Posted: 14 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: nureat01


the confrontation will change this static state.


Totally it's like these two make a habit of falling into stages of stalemate - shanti se, or otherwise! They just reach this dead ends, and then a whole new confrontation is needed to jostle them out, lol! While Gulaal had come to willingly keep herself happy with the being friends is safe deal, Kesar had let her keep whatever pretense she wanted to, as long as she would just smile for him 😆 Just no fair to that awesome confrontation in your avi 😳 We've needed a follow up on that now, for a while!

Reemz - I'm terrible in the kitchen man, like really bad. So even if I put together the semblance of something edible, I know I'll be distracted enough 😆 And because I know it wont happen easily, I'll actually have a challenging task at hand, lol! So yeh, my idea of keeping Talli away. The CVs need to show more consideration than this on Fridays!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I was actually rooting for 'Dulli' but after watching the painful Talli Kes scenes today (hold up, painful as in tooth extraction without any meds painful)...I want that girl out of that house!!!!!!!! Anyone...please just get married to her and take her away...PLEASE!!!😭
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Anjali - I was just rewatching the episode (yeh, I know, I must be mad!) but I realized Kesar even shared his flowers with Talli - 😳 JK, Sudha were fine... but Talli too! Those flowers were for GULAAL!

Oh btw, the white color incorporating all other colors must be Gulaal's funda, right? I bet she brainfed Kesar with it when he was a kid... So he was transferring the gyaan to JK, lol!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#14
I can't believe you have it in you to watch the epi again!!! I don't know...so disappointed with today...this is what I wrote in Reemz's thread:

Oh jeez!! Today's episode was just 🤢

I am sorry but seriously Gulaal just looked like she was having that time of the month!!! I don't care what the reason might be but I don't like seeing this sulky, angry, morbid Gulaal...not after we got such wonderful happy episodes this week. She took so long to accept those flowers and I did not get that...yes Gulaal, Kesar is in love with you and it won't go away if you discourage it and NO Gulaal, he is not going to jump on you if you do minutely encourage him by... lets say...accepting a bunch of White Roses!!

KT 😡 I don't even want to go there!! Usually it is very easy to read Kesar but today I was a bit confused...was he feeling guilty, was he scared that he might fall in love with Talli, was he feeling sorry for her??? Why was he having those FB's of the engagement? I don't trust this Talli...she is acting way too goody goody. Her dialogue about whats the point of a good family when the person you love will never love you back blah blah blah was just wrong!! She had the huge big sugary smile on her face but everything she said today was meant to hurt Kesar. I have a feeling she was testing the waters to see if he actually was feeling jealous!!!

Last scene could have been good but Gulaal was so moody around Kes! She did not even look at him when he was talking to her about Talli and that silly banter was taking place!! Here we go, so we have taken 4 steps forward and 2 steps back again! Kes was right in telling her friends not to disclose his efforts in trying to find them to Gulaal...because her walls are back up again!

Sorry, I am just so miffed with the episode...not what I was expecting and all these Talli Kes scenes are driving me MAD!!! 😒
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Posted: 14 years ago
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*fumes uncontrollably*

WHAT the hell is Talli doing?! WHAT in the heck was that conversation on the terrace?! Honestly, WHAT in the name of God?! *pissed off muh*

HOW is this remotely "mature" of her?!

*takes a deep breath*

I need a time out. 🤬
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Anjalg

I can't believe you have it in you to watch the epi again!!! I don't know...so disappointed with today...this is what I wrote in Reemz's thread:

Oh jeez!! Today's episode was just 🤢

I am sorry but seriously Gulaal just looked like she was having that time of the month!!! I don't care what the reason might be but I don't like seeing this sulky, angry, morbid Gulaal...not after we got such wonderful happy episodes this week. She took so long to accept those flowers and I did not get that...yes Gulaal, Kesar is in love with you and it won't go away if you discourage it and NO Gulaal, he is not going to jump on you if you do minutely encourage him by... lets say...accepting a bunch of White Roses!!

KT 😡 I don't even want to go there!! Usually it is very easy to read Kesar but today I was a bit confused...was he feeling guilty, was he scared that he might fall in love with Talli, was he feeling sorry for her??? Why was he having those FB's of the engagement? I don't trust this Talli...she is acting way too goody goody. Her dialogue about whats the point of a good family when the person you love will never love you back blah blah blah was just wrong!! She had the huge big sugary smile on her face but everything she said today was meant to hurt Kesar. I have a feeling she was testing the waters to see if he actually was feeling jealous!!!

Last scene could have been good but Gulaal was so moody around Kes! She did not even look at him when he was talking to her about Talli and that silly banter was taking place!! Here we go, so we have taken 4 steps forward and 2 steps back again! Kes was right in telling her friends not to disclose his efforts in trying to find them to Gulaal...because her walls are back up again!

Sorry, I am just so miffed with the episode...not what I was expecting and all these Talli Kes scenes are driving me MAD!!! 😒


Yeh, I did dare to go back watch the epi - because its become such a habit!!!

@bold - very well said. I'm going to send Galool a hate mail over the weekend, and I'm going to quote you there, by the word 😡

@red - I did consider that angle you know. But maybe it's just me - I honestly don't credit her with brains enough to pull off such guilt trip reverse psychology! I think subconsciously she still hopes.. hopes, hopes hopes - maybe a part of her reason to rush through this wedding fiqasco is the understanding that she's far from over him, and that if she sticks around GK too long, she might just flip and do something... plain wrong. like telling him he will fall in love with her over a damn ring 😡 I think, apart from giving GK their space - because consciously, she wants to get out of their case - she is somewhat unbeknownst to her, still taking her random chances at as you say, testing waters... as a conscious move from her, I doubt! Either way, she was a freak today. No, she always is, she was just going over board making a point of it today. The chase in the end was so unlike this show - random out of no where... except the GK scene in there, which at least made enough sense as a building block for Monday.

As for Gulaal going back 2 steps on 4 forward - somehow I suspect her revelation is going to many painful stages, unlike smart guy Kesar's! Sigh...
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Posted: 14 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: JZephyr

I honestly don't credit her with brains enough to pull off such guilt trip reverse psychology! I think subconsciously she still hopes.. I agree...Talli doesn't have the brains to pull a reverse psychology on Kesar...I have my doubts...lol...but yeah subconsciously somewhere she keeps indulging in these random "jokes" I guess...stupid pointless crap...so not needed today...

I guess it's also more annoying cuz they contrasted it all so sharply with an aloof Gulaal who retreated into her shell again in many ways...ek taraf we have giggly, playful, "mahaan" acting Talli and on the other side, an aloof, morose Gulaal...

But but...I will say again as I said in the EDT...it is still significant to me...in the last scene...that even if Kesar was running around after Talli, the moment he saw Gulaal in the kitchen, everything else faded away for him and he instantly went to help her😆...woh alag baat hai that Gulaal was trying to step back and retreat


As for Gulaal going back 2 steps on 4 forward - somehow I suspect her revelation is going to many painful stages, unlike smart guy Kesar's! Sigh... Yeah, Gulaal never makes anything easy...but you know what...she's putting herself in that catch 22 situation again that you mentioned a while back...she's not realizing it maybe but what now?? Will she have to acknowledge at last that he IS doing this out of LOVE...See her attack is usually two pronged...1) That Kesar doesn't love her and it's just an attachment and 2) He just wants her as a wife for the heck of it...Now she's going with argument #2 in this confrontation it seems but why do I get the feeling that ultimately she will have to come out of this realizing that her first argument is crumbling?? That Kesar IS doing all this out of LOVE...not attachment, not bhram, not some vested interest...but plainly out of LOVE...I really want Kesar to ask her WHY he doesn't have the RIGHT to bring happiness into her life??

And I dunno why I'm also now starting to see a scenario in my head that after this confrontation, very soon something will happen to Kesar and Gulaal will go on a guilt trip about all she's said to him...she will regret then...I can actually picture her sitting next to an ill/injured Kesar crying that he has to come back to HIS Gulaal ...Ok maybe my mind is getting too melodramatic now😛😆

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Alright.. I've calmed down a bit.. Not a lot, but enough to make this post.

While I may understand Talli's pendulum-esque state and while I may understand the logic behind her rash decisions and the subsequent confused reactions to the same, I do NOT think I can stand them. It really gets on my nerves to see her bahao-ing ansoo EVERY freaking chance she gets! I mean really?! Agar ITNA mushkil hai Kesar sey baat karna toh AVOID him! Nahi.. Khud agey uchal uchal k baat bhi karni hai aur phir she has to do that crying-behind-his-back nonsense WHILE she's in front of him?! Seriously?! Aisi bhi kya abla naari hai, aisa bhi kya torture hai us bandey sey baat karna. Aur agar itna torture hai toh bhai na baat karo na! Koi zabardasti toh hai nahi k tum aa k terrace pe uskey saath apney honey wali pati-dev jaise ghissey pitey jokes maro! And coming to those jokes, honestly, dil kar raha tha TV mein ghus k muh pe 2-3 thapar jar doon!

"Are you jealous of my fiance being better than you?! Ha ha ha.. *giggles*.. Oh take off my ring jo maine pehnayi hai, you chor! *giggles* Ha ha ha.. Oh I'm so funny Kesar! Ha ha.. Oh acha fine don't give it to me if you love that fat band of a ring so much but utar zaroor dena because warna you will fall in love with me based on a vein that makes a direct run to your heart.. He he he he.. *wink wink* Oh you wonder why that vein is in the left hand in my case but the right in yours?! Phhfftt! Technicalities bro! Ha ha ha.. You dabloo! *giggles* *thenga dikhaying* Ha ha ha.. Lets play catch-me-if-you-can like we're three! You're IT punk! *runs*"..

Seriously?! Seriously!!? 😳 *face palms* I swear I am out of words to describe the MORONIC exchange that this was?! POINT kya tha is sab ka I don't get it?! If she wanted to show him that she'd moved on, then really, this was an EPIC fail.. She should have AT LEAST bothered to see if she could keep that whimpy cry-baby expression OFF her face as she tried to appear nonchalant! No, she does the million-and-one-trying-to-blink-back-my-tears expressions and passes absolutely inappropriate and uncomfortable "jokes" that SHOW for a fact that she hasn't moved on - which to me seriously felt like she was taking below the belt digs at Kesar, just to make sure that he KNEW just how hard this was for her on the off chance that he had started to believe (after her umpteenth assurance) k she's trying to move on - and then she ends it with a lame joke and an attempt to be all 'friends for life!"?!

*fumes*

She's a moron. And I HATE people like this - ones who think k just because something bad happened to them, they are justified in blaming the rest of the screw ups in their life on it.. That they can then go ahead and act like a complete social-retard and no one should question them because "mere saath bauhat bura hua hai toh please sympathize with me". I agree k life is horrible for her, but she HAS to WHOLE-HEARTEDLY try to move on.. Fail ho jaye toh I can still accept it - and I can still respect her attempt. But she isn't even TRYING! Ulta she's just sitting there pretending to be a martyr sab k samney aur peechey sey she cries buckets on the stairs and the terrace as if the whole house is forcing her in this nuptial to begin with?! Talli, it is YOUR choice to move on - YOU made it. PLEASE stick with it now! At least retain SOME dignity in the face of this disaster. Pehley ghalti Kesar ki thie k he led you on and I agree with that - but now it's YOURS for not ripping it off like a band-aid.. quick and clean! Ulta you are picking at that scab every chance you get - turning into a masochist and a sadist (where you torment the other guy). And then you bahao ansoo like you truly are the sacrificial lamb here?! Either be snide and collect your pay back OR be the self sacrificing, all forgiving person who's willing to move on. But you CANNOT be both! Which is what you come off as right now.

*annoyed muh some more*

I'm trying and failing at being sympathetic towards her after today's stupidity galore. She should have known better. I can forgive her the random tear-fest every now and then and blame it on her confused heart. But the baloney that she spewed on the terrace - I'm sorry, NO self respecting girl should ever come off as THAT desperate.. Ever.

About Kesar's reaction though, I think he was just spooked by his comments. She CLEARLY did not come off with the "oh it's all in good fun" tone that she was aiming for and she really did seem to come on a bit too strong with her repetitive allusions to what happened in the mandap drama with Kesar and her feelings for him. And while normally she just takes it as a "such is life and these are the facts" sort of deal, today she seemed to be taking digs at Kesar with her comments. She may be going for the "lets joke about it!" idea, but anyone could tell that it was too soon (and probably always will be) to pass it off as a joke especially using the tone and the words that she was using.. So I really just feel k Kesar took off that ring as hastily as he did because he did not want to lead her on anymore and he had just been confronted with the possibility of her still harboring POSSIBLE hope for a "them" - which seemed to have spooked him a bit (because it spooked me a bit too and I had a WTH expression on my face for the entire duration of that scene). And as clearly as he'd stated stand on "what he feelings for her" before, as clearly as she'd claimed to have UNDERSTOOD those answers, today it just seemed like Talli didn't understand any of his words from before and was in fact harboring her own "maybe, if I push hard enough" hopes for their relationship..

Oh and as for Gulaal, I think she was silenced by guilt. Because the entire conversation regarding Talli was focused entirely on the wedding fiasco with Kesar - how Talli is FINALLY happy now (Sudha), how we should try not to mess around with her feelings (Paanba and Raman) and how anyone else who comes for her will have the same taunting questions because of the mess that's been made already (Raman and JK).. Toh really, Gulaal just looked overcome by guilt from the time Paanba intervenes between her and Sudha and asks them to consider Talli's "bhavna" before they make a decision. Tab sey really, it just seemed like a back to back strike on how things are so messed up for Talli and how much she's been hurt in the process due to what happened at the wedding and I feel Gulaal just silently (tried to) retreat into the shadows.. Like she'd lost the privilege to judge any other guy for Talli of make comments on her well being just yet. Add to that her own Kesar-related dilemma and I don't think she had the presence of mind or the will power to tackle the likes of JK and Raman just yet. Like I'd mentioned before, now that the Kesar front is "messed up" in her mind again, she can't give her optimum performance anymore. Kesar consumes too much of her thoughts for her to be able to function logically if and when there is ever a "mess" regarding him and her relationship with him. She made a blunder with the panchayat, walking out of the house and then later being ridiculously mean/counter productive with Kesar earlier when she was having the same "confusion" regarding her relationship with him.. And now that the same confusion had reared its head (although the confusion is at a different stage altogether), it's like she is going to go back employing that same lack of insight/logic that we saw earlier..

And I'm not sure if I made any sense here, so my apologies.. 😆 I am just too miffed at Talli's nonsense from today.. *shudders at the thought of those lame-o terrace dialogues* 🤢
Edited by -Fivr- - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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It's sure complicated, once if anyone connects to this serial. Good analysis jze! 😊,so i took a long break after i watched today's episode. And now i am here again, just to see what you have post about galool lol!

The episode was not so incredible but i would say it was a good push for gulaal and kesar's confrontation as we all would have expected. The thoughts of kesar being nice and caring about her happiness haunted in gulaal's mind and made her to have another discourse about their relationship. I feel really bad for kesar. When would kesar vindicate himself with gulaal's accusation and doubts. I am sure this would hurt him the most after what he did for her in the past. Looks like gulaal's invidious nature regarding acceptance of kesar's love would hardly go away in the next coming episodes...i guess that's what makes her character real again. She is not really accepting the true facts about herself, rather than ignoring that she can be in love again...hopefully that confrontation would help out gulaal to rethink about the judgement that she makes on kesar's love...
About talli lol!! what can i say. Its funny how she makes kesar to feel guiltyy sometimes...looks like she is still trying to make him fall for her... i really dont think she is helping out kes-gul. She has given her consent of marrying kunal, but thats about it. Why cant she try and have a discourse with gulaal about her realitionship with kesar. She could try to encourage her of just giving a chance to him.. she is not doing this at all,but rather coming in between...
But liked how DULLI'S prediction would come out to be true, if all this circumstances would stay the same, and raman's intentions to get the money through talli, and talli backing off from the marrige😕. LOL! you said it true. I serioiusly think dushyant would be a goody hubby for her. And she wouldnt have to leave the house😛...but again that would trouble kes-gul realtionship and we all dont want to see that further...yaar i wish to see some good episodes and these misunderstanding between kes-gul should end soon... and i hope this serial would still go on after they unite...😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Fivr-



"Are you jealous of my fiance being better than you?! Ha ha ha.. *giggles*.. Oh take off my ring jo maine pehnayi hai, you chor! *giggles* Ha ha ha.. Oh I'm so funny Kesar! Ha ha.. Oh acha fine don't give it to me if you love that fat band of a ring so much but utar zaroor dena because warna you will fall in love with me based on a vein that makes a direct run to your heart.. He he he he.. *wink wink* Oh you wonder why that vein is in the left hand in my case but the right in yours?! Phhfftt! Technicalities bro! Ha ha ha.. You dabloo! *giggles* *thenga dikhaying* Ha ha ha.. Lets play catch-me-if-you-can like we're three! You're IT punk! *runs*"..

Seriously?! Seriously!!? 😳 *face palms* I swear I am out of words to describe the MORONIC exchange that this was?!



LMFAOOO🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 BEST description of that completely moronic exchange as you perfectly put it *dies laughing* Seriously what the hell WAS that??? Absolute time waste of a scene...Monday better make up for us having to sit through this crap.

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