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Posted: 14 years ago
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To even rant, as you put it, I need a steaming hot cup of 'Chai'. Sukriti has warned me elsewhere that she is not willing to read my analysis today because she wants to forget about the episode. So I am not even attempting today.
BRB
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: nureat01

P.S. Why did they not show Gulaal's reaction to seeing that blanket that Kesar put on her? I mean whenever she woke up, she must have seen it, right? Why was that not shown??

These ppl just want to drive us mad😆

Even i wanted to see that, but i think we can all imagine how it would of been - and then she just goes and puts it on him lol
JZee at this moment, Gulaal has well lets just say anger in her, and i dont think she has even settled down as of yet.. to even see Kesar as Kesar, the more he messes up the more i think it frustrates her... the more each time it gets more intense for her and making difficult for her esp around the family coz he is bearing the brunt of the family even more now
I even agree that all Kesar wanted is as we saw when he imagined Gulaal there smiling, is just that, Gulaal being just like that and like you say to tame him - just be civil
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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What a disappointing episode! All raised hopes come crashing down :-(
Gulaal is as hard as a rock and am starting to think nothing is ever gonna melt her! Hence am going with option 3 mainly coz i think Kesar deserves better. I HOPE and PRAY that we do not see a Kesar-Talli ending I can take a Gulaal and Kesar going seperate ways ending but NOT a Kesar-Talli one I hope Talli ain't that thick skinned to go back to Kesar . I mean the guy doesn't even love her for heavensake! When she did pati for him i was so frustrated. Is she that blinded by her love? That she can't even see them, in a way, "making use" of her?? God, Talli is getting really pathetic!
"If he did set her free - question is, what next for her? She can't be in that house, she might go back to her own - but what's the point .. she won't really know what next"
"Does she even know why she's fighting him in the first place? To bring her back to this house? Which btw, is all she has to her life? It's not anybody's but Gulaal's own doing that she has no life or existence outside of this family and the house. Kesar has fought with her, and the world, to give it back to her, with due rights. What will she do when she beats him at it, loses what he gave her in the wake? It's one of the biggest questions she hasn't dealt with - among a billion others. But well."
Excellent points above! Am just loving how you draw comparisons to the two! They're both so much in similar! Now it's all anger she has for Kesar and if he finally sets her free, she'll be happy (no doubt abt that) but am pretty sure in afew days to come, she'll be lost... going back to her trail of thoughts that "Talsagra and the parivaar is what defines her..blah blah blah" ... 😆
@Bold: Gulaal doesn't know it but Talli knows this 🥱Am STILL waiting for Kesar to tell Gulaal what he told Talli yst but man this lady is so icy cold towards him that it's hard to get any words across her! Before he can even open his mouth to say anything, she opens hers and deflates his confidence! Arghh! I gotta say, that precap was so ... 🥱 Of all things, Kesar is demanding that Gulaal feeds him with her own hands... how abt telling her the real reason behind wanting her back first?? Don't know, i just found the precap so out of place. BUT that precap also did looked like we got back the angry Kesar?? How he demanded that she feeds him ... If that actually happens, then i woudn't mind coz i am really sick of this "crying" side of Kesar ... the old one was more fun 😆😆😆
Oh and yes.. the blue fonts is all good! 😆
Edited by Blueberry_07 - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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nice post as usual👏👏 & to b honest after tonite's epi it was a very much needed post for me coz the epi cudnt satisfied me but ur post as usual gave some points to think over.😊 At least at this point of time when I dont know why this is happening this way, when I lost the character Gulal ur points will work to divert my mind😛 As I said in one other post tonite that I dunno wht to comment tonite. They potrayed her as a hired nurse who worked for unknown patient. Not like that also. Paid nurse dnt get harsh on their patient & push other member of the family to do her duty😆😆 I dnt knw why I m getting this negetive vibe inside me that may b mass ppl r not accepting this love story.😭 Here in net we get some posts against these kinda love story. ppl still find it weird to accept a widow & elder woman as a love interest of a young man😡😲 Are they(CVs & PH) trying to change the storyline. With such stuborness & never accepting scenario from Gulal & Talli nearing Kesar & showing her good humanity side. Gulal is showing inhuman & one-eyed self centerd biased lady who is only thinking of her happiness all of a sudden.😲 She can dwell with the killer of the Vasant for whom she is calling Kesar's love as sin but she cant stand sick Kesar. May b its a change in storyline. May b they will bend before this narrow thought that a guy should marry a girl of his age or younger to him but never can fall for an elder one.😡 May b Kesar will free her & she will spend her rest of life in some isolated place & Talli & Kesar will get married & have theirown children whom they will name Vasant & Gulal😆 May b thats the plot so they r making us dislike or to some extent hate Gulal these days & all sympathy is reserverd for Kesar only. So we can say one fine day that Gulal dont worth Kesar's love & effection. A negetive thought I know but I dnt know why I m getting this feelings. Otherwise they wud give some scences to Gulal where she is caring for Kesar but not showing it in front of him. Making her harsh must have some purpose. I wonder how can they control the damage they have already done. neway nice post & thanks for posting as it helped me alot😛
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Jzee*sighs* donno what to say yaar...at least treat this guy as a human being...not as a dog...so disgusted at the precap😡but excellent points yaar👏


Thanks Piu. Nothing much to say. I sort of want to sail to tomorrow in a limbo not thinking about this episode! Not like the precap gave much hope!

Originally posted by: nureat01

P.S. Why did they not show Gulaal's reaction to seeing that blanket that Kesar put on her? I mean whenever she woke up, she must have seen it, right? Why was that not shown??

These ppl just want to drive us mad😆


😒 I wondered. I would have even accepted them showing the other side, of when Gulaal put the blanket back on him - or did she?! We don't even know. Why does he wake up when Talli gives him covers, and not when Gulaal might have? 😳 The smile on his tired/ill face when he thought he saw Gulaal smiling was just - heartbreaking and heart warming all at once

Originally posted by: MeySimi

To even rant, as you put it, I need a steaming hot cup of 'Chai'. Sukriti has warned me elsewhere that she is not willing to read my analysis today because she wants to forget about the episode. So I am not even attempting today.

BRB


Lol Ganga - i know what you mean. I almost didn't post - and sat down to do my reviews, but then I was still thinking about it, so I came back to rant 😆 Clearly, I'm no match for string hearts like GK!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I would not say that the episode was disappointing.
We expected Gulaal to take care of Kesar and soften further.
That is a tried and tested formula. Kesar did that for Gulaal. But that made sense because it has always been shown that when it comes to Gulaal being hurt or sick, Kesar reacts immediately leaving aside everything that he had been doing. I have mentioned before. Again I bring that episode where Talli says Gulaal has hurt herself after falling from the stairs. Kesar who stood on the terrace and was not cooperating in the Krishna Leela practice, just came rushing to check on Gulaal.
Regarding Gulaal's reaction
She is resisting every oppurtunity that would make him feel that she loves him. She herself is going through so much of a turmoil. She has always been hailed, it is new to her when she is being blamed. If she softens up so quickly, her characterisation suffers. Of course she is treating him like a piece of dirt. But she is sending him comforter, food, etc to show him that she is continuing to do her wifely duties, the way he wanted. But making it clear that she has no feelings or emotions attached to her actions.
Regarding the Montage
CVs will not give us obvious clues for people to relax. And moreover, the situation has not changed. Talli still loves Kesar, Kesar still looks out for Gulaal. Gulaal does not believe in her deeyarvatu and is still pushing Talli(not exactly) towards Kesar. If they change the montage, it would be an obvious clue that Talli is out from the Kesar Gulaal story
Regarding WHEN Gulaal would realise?
Kesar sought refuge in the goddess and requested that she once realises her true love.
The Vasant murder issue has been kept under cover for too long. Kesar has decided to keep his mouth shut because it is HIS GULAAL'S decision.
I believe there is more to the character Raman than just being around. Today we saw the Dushyant Gulaal angle being brought up again.
Dushyant repents for is actions and he is almost a living saint. The more he will subjected to such loose talks about Gulaal whom he is almost worshipping these days, there would definitely come a time in very near future, that Dushyant admits to his wrong-doings in front of the family.
Raman does not know and Dushyant will not bring up the fact that Gulaal knew it all along.
I believe that Durgesh has a role toplay too because only he knows that Gulaal is aware of Dushyant's misdeeds.
In that scenario, I dont expect anyone other Kesar to stand up for Gulaal against the family who would have drawn out their respective swords against Gulaal. Nobody from Vasant's family or her own family will support her. Her mother's reaction will be"Kis mitti ki bani hai tu?"
Coming to Kesar. I would prefer that Kesar be given a chance to defend Gulaal for such a serious issue like this one than to be defending her in response to the kitchen politics.
So hopefully, I repeat hopefully...she will realise that this guy really means what he says when he says 'Main tumse saccha pyaar karta hoon'
Edited by MeySimi - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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I forgot to add,
Did anyone notice Gulaal's reaction when Talli said that she knew where Kesar would be, a place known only to them. Did I see her surprise that there is something that Talli knows about Kesar and she doesn't
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: JZephyr

Disclaimer: I have no idea why I'm making a post today - because I almost wasn't going to 😔For obvious reasons. But anyway...

What a let down sequence of events after all the hopes we were (at least I was) pinning on today's episode. I did wonder, with regard to Gulaal's series of flashback memories when she sat in a corner in that room, that maybe the CVs are trying to make a counter point, by not going exactly the way they went with Kesar - cause we, and most viewers are likely to imagine that would happen.

But even if this was a means of being non-cliche - the episode was just too full of dashed hopes.

I don't want to talk about it though. What I am wondering at this point, is what exactly could change this messy situation? I really thought until yesterday, that we could bank on the start of cracks in Gulaal's hard surface today. But I doubt that hope is going anyhow upscale, after today, and more so after the PRECAP. So what are the possibilities?

(I'm putting down my ideas atm - feel free to discuss, reject, add)

1) The last scene between Dushy and Raman was like an indication of the remaining dark chapter to create chaos soon enough. No one knows what Gulaal knows, because even though Kesar knows the fact - he sure isn't privy to every gory detail (including her self justified reasons of forgiving Dushyant) of the matter. I wonder, just wonder, if the resurfacing of this issue can bring back the fire in Kesar, which he had returned with from a decade at the boarding? God knows he can do with some of that avatar just now. I'm so miffed with his giving in left right center to Gulaal - that I can actually imagine the treat it will be to watch him play rough and cold with her again. I suppose the snappy Kesar does after all deal with Gulaal much better (not to mention effectively) than the sappy one.

2) I'm a little worried about this line of thought. I know we all assume its GK in the end. But are we sure? This isn't going to become a Talli-Kesar and Dushyant-Gulaal parallel track series anytime, is it? Sorry for the pessimism - today was just sad :| And every time she jumps at Kesar's throat I wonder when she will relent. Then she goes out and behaves so civilly with Dushyant, it just appalls me! In a single sentence today, she let the man off every hook - aap khud ko doshi mat thehraiye! In the name of devil - this is the man who widowed her - which was the inception of all the chaos we see today; this was the man for who's lusty love she was compelled into the deeyarvattu scenario - so really, her deeyarvattu with Kesar, despite being her own decision was a majburi as she told JK yesterday, and who was responsible?! Not Kesar, but Dushyant; finally, this is the man who gave Panchayat decision in Kesar's favor (yes I know we can all forgive him a thousand sins for that) but how can Gulaal?! This man is single handedly responsible for nearly every twist of fate in her life, and she tells him to not hold himself responsible?! Dude! He could live the life of him in penance and not pay off enough - but the way she's going atm, she could very well join him in Hell's fire 😡 I'm not even taking into account Kesar's misery here - plainly as a matter between Dushyant and Gulaal - what kind of a hypocrite is this woman to forgive this man... and tell Kesar he's unforgivable?!
I honestly no longer think this is about forgiving Kesar - this is purely her fear. With every new drastic step Kesar takes - and wins - Gulaal is mortified of how far he can go to break her precious shell. The funniest part is - or should I say the most ridiculous irony - that the easiest way to tame Kesar, is to simply be docile and civil with him. At this point, all he wants is peaceful co-existence with her. How hard is that? He doesn't chose to be impossible, she's driving him to it - time and again. It's just plain wrong. Phew. I am more than miffed I suppose.

3) Here's one last shot. Anyone think that if Kesar just gave up - in every sense - and told her he had set her free, and she could go back, or live in the house, or be wherever she wanted, however she wanted without feeling obligated to Panchayat's decision, or for him - it would work? Perhaps - just perhaps, he will give up and propose calling the deeyarvattu off. Anyone think that will work? I don't how though. But still - at this point, her life is in a billion tangles because of his one zidd she presumes. If he did set her free - question is, what next for her? She can't be in that house, she might go back to her own - but what's the point .. she won't really know what next. Because last time she left the house - she had an aim - the aim was to avoid Kesar. What now?! It's like the time she told Kesar she had lost, and that she gave up and wo do nothing, and accepted all her decisions and whatnot was wrong, and that he could have his way - she would walk out, and leave his life in peace. Kesar's dilemma had been the same. He realized, he won his debate - but he didn't know what next. He didn't know what he had been fighting the debate for. It's exactly Gulaal's current predicament. She's fighting with Kesar every moment, to prove her point - but if he truly accepts defeat and backs off, does she know what she will do ahead? Does she even know why she's fighting him in the first place? To bring her back to this house? Which btw, is all she has to her life? It's not anybody's but Gulaal's own doing that she has no life or existence outside of this family and the house. Kesar has fought with her, and the world, to give it back to her, with due rights. What will she do when she beats him at it, loses what he gave her in the wake? It's one of the biggest questions she hasn't dealt with - among a billion others. But well.

My side for now. I'm trying to focus on thinking ahead, because just thinking about today is downright sad.

Jump right in to rant - because everyone wants to today - don't you? 😳

ps: Changed color. How apt is 'blue'?!

xx
JZee

The CVs have a tendency towards proving that the "beatings will continue till morale improves". They like to punish the audience constantly - and this I do think this style of storytelling isa weak point in the serial. While we get the rare, extremely infrequent glimpse of hope, the negative streak goes on endlessly. This does make the audience irritated. I have witnessed the "tune off" from the sreial in my own house, the excellent cast notwithstanding...
I dislike the character Talli intensely. Not just because she puts a damper on K-G but also because she is spineless. And why, oh why, oh why is she ALWAYS, ALWAYS lurking aroung the K-G room? Midnight, early morn, noontime...does she even let Kesar take a leak in peace? or Gulaal? She is chronic ...I cannot gauge when she is smiling or crying..it looks the same...and I dislike the amount of screen time being given to this character. UGH UGH!! Unless and until K-G get time to sort out their issues on their own, there really is no hope for this couple...
I agree with MeySimi's post about Kesar supporting Gulaal through some major fiasco such as covering up for Dushyanth - I too would prefer that happens and that Gulaal is rudely awakened from her reverie and limited vision about what "love" is. I want the people who blindly praise Gulaal to understand the harm she can do when she makes these sanctimonious decisions for the "greater good". Angry
PS: the continuation of the montage with Talli's chokehold around Kesar's neck bothers me...
Edited by trifolia - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: Blueberry_07

I can take a Gulaal and Kesar going seperate ways ending but NOT a Kesar-Talli one




WORD Berry! Although reading through Srush's posts puts me back on track with GK to the end... 😆 Also I don't thin Kesar will get his turn to say things like I brought you back here because you love this house, anytime soon. Because I don't see a heart to heart talk happen anytime soon...

But like Srush said - the last scene indicates an impending change of dynamics in the house. Hopefully, that will be the inevitable way of bringing GK on same side of war. I sort of dislike being at the mercy of cupids like JK, Sudha, and Talli. 🤢
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