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Hi Jzee its me Piu😳...Fantoo post yaar so in love with your style of writing⭐️
Well I really liked your analysis specially about Kesar always thinking in parts and leaving the rest to be dwelled upon later..First revenge..then hurt,then possesiveness...stopping the marriage..gulaal as his wife ..his love confession and so on..It always needs someone to remind him What next?
Well that is very much to do with his age and upbringing ..He has always been this pampered kid with a very impulsive nature...Lovely analysis..will go through it again and discuss later...Finally you culdn't resist our request to grace Gulaal forum with your superb style⭐️
👏 This said it all
And its exactly what i was trying to say in my post as well, but you siad way better then i could ever and in so simple termsI totally got where the last scene came from and what Gulaal did and why...I have nothing to add...😊
Originally posted by: dramebaaz
Excellent post👏...I enjoy reading ur analysis..Keep up the good work🤗
Originally posted by: manzilmukul
Hi Jzee its me Piu😳...Fantoo post yaar so in love with your style of writing⭐️
Well I really liked your analysis specially about Kesar always thinking in parts and leaving the rest to be dwelled upon later..First revenge..then hurt,then possesiveness...stopping the marriage..gulaal as his wife ..his love confession and so on..It always needs someone to remind him What next?
Well that is very much to do with his age and upbringing ..He has always been this pampered kid with a very impulsive nature...Lovely analysis..will go through it again and discuss later...Finally you culdn't resist our request to grace Gulaal forum with your superb style⭐️
Thanks Len !!! I thought the CVs were brilliant in the execution of an outer dialog, and an implied inside dialog in the one single scene - both lines of thought expecting to be tended to and elaborated upon eventually. While the outer talk will be eye opener for both Kesu and Gulaal each in their own place, the underlying implication shall become consequent in the long run!
Yes he loves her, and he has told her over and over again - of how it is not infatuation, not obsession, but a pure mature feeling that he can't do anything about to change! So what is it, that Kesuda really makes of his love? Or expects from it, to be precise? He told Gulaal that he had always seen her as a wife, even when he didn't understand it, from the point of deeyarvattu. So what does one expect from their wife? Gulaal gives him the rudest shock of his very existence by throwing in his face the same arguments, by presenting her person as his wife, in his bedroom, for his benefit. In clear words she tells him she will subjugate to him as a wife to her husband in every sense of the bond - and naturally, it repels Kesar intolerably. She asks him (rhetorically) if it wasn't the entire reason of his obstinacy - if this wasn't what he wanted! And of course Kesar denies vehemently. He loves her, and he wants her to be with him, around him - how could she think of her Kesar in that obscene manner? His love is pure... and she is misunderstanding - kya main ita giraa hua hu? cheee!And he walks out on a broken Gulaal - his guardian, friend, confidante, and wife.Question is - Gulaal projects the entire man and wife deal to him in its blatant truthful image and it repels Kesar. Why? He is disgusted with himself, and with her perception of him in that way, why? Is it finally g)oing to occur to him that what Gulaal has been tagging as paap is this! And the entire feeling of violation she was subjected to with his confession, had nothing but this man and wife bonding written all over it - of replacing Vasant in her life, as her soul mate, and as the only man ever? As Mota Bhaa once said - Kesar has not thought this over. He's not the kind to think before action - and perhaps Motabhaa's question of who it was that he was punishing will finally make sense to him in its big real picture. He's been asking the world, and Gulaal, what is so wrong about him loving his wife - but perhaps just once he ought to have thrown that question at himself. I didn't realize this when I was watching the scene the first time cuz I felt so bad for Kesar...but it's so true...it's GOOD that someone threw this question in his face...it gave HIM something to think about...cuz he HAS been claiming since many days that Gulaal is his wife but for all that Gulaal said to him, on one level her point about the fact that now he has a WIFE in his ROOM...so tell her what to do now? What are his expectations from his wife? Kesar definitely got a rude shock...a sort of wake up call there...
Finally, at this reality check from Gulaal - Kesar shall have to, sooner or later, ask himself how he loves his wife - whether his attachment is purely a need that he doesn't know how to live without, or can grow into the love a man has for his woman. Because sooner or later, that question will rise.On that note, I'd like to add that a part of Kesar too lives very much in the past. One second he's the grown up boy who can now exercise feelings of true love; the other second, he is the little boy married to an older woman (the widow of his brother at that) who he adores so utterly, that the intensity of his attachment to her blinds him to reason. While I have nothing against his love for Gulaal - and would very much like it to evolve into what a husband has for his wife - I have to admit, he's a long way to go. Interestingly, even as all of us discussed Gulaal's long time in coming around, we missed this side of the argument totally even as it seems the most obvious thing now, and full marks to the CVs for bringing it out! Wow you know I also never fully realized this until just now *shakes head in a daze* It's so fascinating...Yes indeed, Kesar is very much living in the past just like Gulaal is...he's grown up and his love for Gulaal has evolved but in some ways he too is clinging to that past and just wants the Gulaal that he adores so much to be around him...then is it any wonder that ppl throw that in his face as just an "attachment" and a "lagaav"? He most definitely has a long way to go to really reconcile to and understand his OWN feelings for Gulaal.
Like he told her that day when she was trying to leave the house as well...he had JUST started to find himself, understand himself after this realization of his love for Gulaal...and she left...uprooting him all over again...so he hasn't exactly had much of a MOMENT or TIME himself to fully understand this.
And then there is his habit of thinking in phases as you said...when she left, his ONLY thought was about getting her back...he couldn't BREATHE in a sense with that need...he mentioned it to Talli as well that he barely got a moment to even DIGEST this feeling and POOF Gulaal was gone...
Now she is back at last...and as I mentioned in another post...NOW Kesar will start to find his footing again...his balance, his anchor is back...even if she hates his guts😆...and will lash out at him any chance she gets...unwittingly she's given him something MAJOR to think about...that is what is so amazing about these two...and what's amazing about Gulaal's meaning in Kesar's life...in one way or the other SHE is the one to guide him back...that's just intrinsic to their relationship somehow...intentionally or unintentionally...some larger force that binds them together...it's beyond their understanding or control I'd say.
I'm only saying Kesar makes a habit of thinking in parts only. For a decade he tormented himself wondering why Gulaal had betrayed the family over Vasant's murder mystery - but he was so focused on the betrayal, that he saw nothing else in the periphery, shutting it all out stubbornly. Then, again, when he agreed to married Talli, he was focussed singularly on hurting Gulaal, and proving his point - nothing else in the periphery mattered, including collateral damage Talli herself! And yet again, his realization of love for Gulaal was like a horse's view of the road it travels. It's most like Kesar, to analyze his problems, and come to solutions hence - but looking at each issue as if it were a monochrome. On the other hand, we have often discussed how Gulaal has been his anchor - the person who understands this restless over reacting side of him, and knows just how to deal with it - and with her becoming an integral part of his problem, there was no longer the guiding light of her person. Brilliant point...bang on!👏👏👏...I love how you've elaborated this...it is SO true...he does think in parts...and at each point, he is so CONSUMED by whatever thought is tormenting him at THAT point...he doesn't think long term...which is what Motabha said to him once too...when he spoke of consequences...it also indicated that Kesar doesn't view the whole thing from an overarching perspective.Both Dushyant and Kesar in their places have made the grave error of confessing their love for Gulaal - who believes herself eternally committed to one and only. In that light their offense is equal. Yes, Dushyant has murdered her husband, which is not a blemish in Kesar's trackbook - but hey, Dushyant was always the bad guy, and Kesar was always her Kesar. The hurt element should be exponentially higher in the latter case. Although these are vague terms to equate, I say that if Gulaal could eventually come around to forgiving Dushyant, accepting him as family, and even respecting him enough to recommend him as Sarpanch, she is sure someone telling Kesar she can never forgive him. LOL exactly...she is someone telling him she'll never forgive him when she forgave the murderer of her HUSBAND...but then again ofcourse this is different cuz this is HER Kesar...even though she refuses to acknowledge this each time HER Kesar pleads for her understanding but the very reason she is punishing him like this IS because he is HER Kesar *sigh* These two😆
Thing is, somewhere, without realizing, Gulaal has returned for the one task she left incomplete - making a man out of Kesar that the world, and Vasant would be proud of. She is too hurt, vulnerable, and prejudiced atm to see this - but if she ca enter his bedroom and throw it in his face to own her up like a wife, and fulfill his demand - she continues to trust him to be the boy he once was. For can you imagine Dushyant of a decade ago, and Gulaal pulling off this exact same stunt with him? And getting away with it? Eh... not really! Point is, that even as she repeats her lost respect and honor at Kesar's hand (just like he continues to go on about how he loves her) LOLLL haha so that's her constant mantra like his is "main tujhse pyar karta hoon, Gulaal" amazing these two are😆...she still trusts him, and deep deep deep inside (deeper for her to delve into atm) he is the one in that house who holds an exclusive place in her heart - that only he does. Like Kesar cannot replace Vasant, no one can replace Kesar. She doesn't understand this, forget trying or striving to - but the day that it does occur to her hence (God and CVs know how that will happen) Gulaal will have embarked upon her one way to recover relations, recover life, and set herself free. Exactly...unwittingly hi sahi...she has returned to complete that one major task...to make Kesar realize his full potential and grow into the man he is meant to be...the one Vasant had dreamt of making him...and yes, along the way she has to realize that the world doesn't function in terms of comparisons to Vasant all the time...Kesar is NOT Vasant...he can't and doesn't WANT to replace Vasant...he is his own man...and he too holds his own place in her heart...but it will take her long time to realize this...the forces that push them together are beyond their understanding, I'll say...their personality clashes work in such fascinating ways.