GHKPM WU & Daily discussion thread #118 DT.P.25; P.99 - Page 41

Originally posted by: sadiltl

Agree! And I think TRP is collective judgement. And most women share similar sentiments...May be thats why all the shows also have similar plots around same time. It is like having a row of automobile dealers on a particular road. They have to create competition, comparison and choice for the people. :D

That makes me wonder, is there a scope for genuine storytelling?I think It happens only during the initial phase. The initial 6 months to 1 year is where the story shines. The writers talent, the directors vision and actors chemistry TRULY contributes to the viewership. After that, the longevity is based on how well you can sustain the interest and competition from other shows. May be thats why I stopped SNS and DABH after 1.5 years :) They get repetitive.

That brings me to one more question. How did BV work for so long?. May be they didnt care for TRP and invested in the characters. And being a social messaging show, it had necessary backup from the channel and PH which enabled the creatives to WORK on their characters? See how Jagya character turned negative and then positive!! It took 100s of episodes, each time his character transitioned. Look at Shiv, how the love story with Anandi progressed? It takes time!! And when TRP doesnt work, channel has to back up and give time. I am not sure, just speculating. But I surely know they took A LOT of time turning Jagya to negative and then positive. It was not overnight. Thats why even his character is cherished along with Anandi and Shiv.

BV was topping the charts throught out till pratyusha and shukla were there. The show was extremely regressive while pretending to be progressive but it had actors like Surekha Sikri in the ensemble. So it working for as long as it did is not surprising.

Second MLs have worked since before Kekta discovered the letter K. Rarely are they well written but I can name 10 shows that worked with second MLs lololol

Originally posted by: Deltablues

BV was topping the charts throught out till pratyusha and shukla were there. The show was extremely regressive while pretending to be progressive but it had actors like Surekha Sikri in the ensemble. So it working for as long as it did is not surprising.

Second MLs have worked since before Kekta discovered the letter K. Rarely are they well written but I can name 10 shows that worked with second MLs lololol

All these talks of TRP aunties having regressive morality (and the subclause that they are homemakers) which is not condescending at all, apparently and still no awareness of the cognitive dissonance in comparing a legally wed husband having complicated feelings about his wife and a sister-in-law being obsessed with her brother-in-law. (Let alone the fact that she got cheated on by the same PoS when she was married to him.)

Originally posted by: NayaNehaD31

i don't hate a fictional character lol

Where was her doctor's instincts when she left commissioner's surgery midway lol to chase after Virat🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

Her expressions have been out of the place throughout the track lol not just her lol all three of them lol

She didn't look alarmed. It was just a cold icy stare lol but yeah let's agree to disagree lol not gonna argue over someone I don't even know lol 🥴🥴🥴🥴

her instinct was to follow V both due to her residual "love" for V and as a doctor to manage the casualties. if V didnt get injured in blast she would have attended to the other casualties. but the goal of that scene was to show that she still is impacted by V and if he is injured, she will be affected.

I found her expressions to be apt enough for Satya's accident news

obviously if she still residual loves V and isnt yet in love with Satya and only sees him as friend her reaction/grief to V being injured wont be the same as Satya. for v she reacts much more emotionally than to Satya. but I dont think she looked unaffected by Satyas accident news or his injury. she is definitely concerned for him also but as friend. they have barely been together for a while so she wont see Satya being injured as her "lover" being hurt and injured and react overly emotionally and doctor speaking to Sai didnt really make it seem like Satya was critically injured. I think her reaction was measured and appropriate enough. I didnt feel like she looked icy and cold. plus it was only precap. lets see in episode.

Originally posted by: Rimu_coldfire

Please suggest me some good ones! I need to cleanse my palate after this ghum ganja

ARYLIE!

I don't even know where you'd find it online but Jyoti was a great second-chance story for about the first 100-200 episodes simce the entry of the second ML. It came on ndtv imagine.

Silsila was great during Kinshuk's track

Na Bole Tum Na Maine Kucch Kaha is literally about widow remarriage.

Saubhagyavati Bhava

Originally posted by: Moor278

My approach has always been this...

Its the writing that fails... why blame actors!!!!

If V was criticized for poor dialogues and stupid characterization... so can Sai and so can Satya... P ke liye less said the better.

HA is just emoting the material he is given... ab vahi sahi nahi hai to vo bhi kya karega? He is new... others are seasoned 🤣

Moreover for the makers... all the characters are famously grey

To kisiko koi saza nahi hai... its fate who punishes them...

I may get targeted again but Satya behaved exactly like P today.

He knows Sai loves V, he knows V loves Sai... but just because he is the one who is married to Sai now, he wont let her go....in spite of the possibility that Sai feels differently..... is it not Patralekha 2.0??????

So if Satya is right today ... so was P during VP phase ....

And this is exactly what I dont like....😡

Instead of using the potential Satya showed when he caught P in her web of lies during the court case ... they are making him say stuff that's supports P.

He was introduced something differently... got turned into something else overnight...

SaiYa marriage still favours P, even in her absence!!!!!!!

Its so obvious that they are trying to justify everything Virat did and PL did.

Blame Sai for not caring for Satya- So Virat caring for PL looks right

Blame Sai for pinning for Virat while being married to Satya- So Virat not doing that for Sai looks right

However it STILL not the same because-PL and Virat had history and a tainted one. So Virat putting her interest above Sai n kids was Foolish and can’t be justified. Plus PL openly cursed Savi, denied Vinu’s right to Sai while Satya is still not like that. He is telling Virat he will be rightful father always. He is accepting of Sai’s responsibility as mother and giving her space to do that.

They have ruined all characters- to make obsession of PL relevant

Only thing I can think of that can explain this shit show is, they are probably showing-

Sai can’t prioritize farz like Virat did

And Virat can’t love like Sai did. She was caring for him and hurting before, she is caring and hurting for him now.
They fail when they try to be like other.

and

Given chance- Sai doing what PL did, despite having good husband, supportive in-laws she is clinging on Virat. (Crimes are to be excluded) and Virat did same in holi week- though it was shown otherwise for a year but its implied now.

If burning rose holds any value- all three should end on sad note due to how they couldn’t handle their feelings better.

PS: having said that- I still feel equating Sai to other two n her meeting same fate is injustice. All her actions are reactions to what she was subjected to. She was young impressionable and got severely groomed into being this person she is not innately.

Originally posted by: kashmayurfan

Bringing this back because truly, kya mast episode tha. Paisa wasool ! Needs more appreciation lol !

Mera padh ke hi dimag kharab ho jata hae. I tried watching clips- couldn’t stand.

PS: Sai in PL’s Saree added tadka type put off.

Sai's feelings for V while being married to satya now are not even comparable to what she endured with VP. she has not led on Satya like V did to her and she has not really crossed any limits with V. yes, she is still overly emotional in that she reacted like a" wife and lover" when he was injured, crying and asking him to not die , holding his hand but other than that extreme situation, she hasnt really done anything inappropriate. and she has not in public embarrassed Satya due to her involvement with V. she has neither been enthusiastically running after V of her own accord. she just ended up in the situations where V was near her. and in most situations Satya knew or was around for all V Sai interactions. she silently tolerates a lot of crap that the Sai Joshi we know wouldnt do and she shows kindness and concern to V that he doesnt deserve but thats not the same as what V used to do for P while being married to Sai or what V used to do for Sai while being married to P. V used to always deny feelings despite Sai and P both confronting him. but Sai has been honest. she never denied and claimed to be "over" V. She even told V when she rejected that she always loved him but she cannot be with him. Love was never the issue. Sai is clear she doesnt want to be Vs wife even though she loves him and wont love another person up until now. V used to always cross boundaries and go overboard even if situation wasnt extreme and there was no distinction between the 2 women in his life even though he has claimed and makers are trying to show that Sai was always his love and P only farz. but that didnt play out in reality. but Sai hasnt really crossed any boundaries except when she though V was dead in a blast. so far non of her actions are exactly comparable to V and P. Sai is clear that she hasnt really got the bandwidth to love again, she never promised Satya the things V promised Sai or P.

Satya also is looking silly for expecting love to happen even though Sai very clearly isnt ready for it and has said so. but Satya cannot be compared to P yet. Ps obsession and cruelty was on another level. Satya even in his bid to get Sai to love him back like he does, has not stooped to the levels that P did. he is not forcibly separating V from his kids or using kids as bait to be close to Sai. he has not harmed V or plotted against him to make Sai love him like P used to do to scheme against Sai.

Sai and Satya cannot be compared to V and P. their relationship is very new even now. VP crimes cannot be erased by making Sai or Satya look bad.

maybe if we had enough time to actually explore it, Sai would have started to fall for Satya too. his family is definitely more accepting than CN folks and he is a better man. but they dont want to show that. they just want to end it abruptly.

What is the use of again and again calling and trying to establish Satya as P. He is a man who is in love with his wife, same woman whom he asked if she wanted to leave and she refused. He is no V who will prioritise his bhabhi over his 'so called love' and wife and no one should. Though his character is ending/ has ended, i am glad he is not degraded like all other characters, Sai included.

By the way, can anyone tell how many missions was V shown leading during PakRat track, like they showed back to back missions now in the supposed SaiYa track where saiya are only missing, even the rocket could not sky rocket the TRPs.

Originally posted by: NayaNehaD31