Virat's pain is ignored ||DT Note P.12|| - Page 4

Originally posted by: Fats24

I know Vankar will never let his favourite lose by making Savi leave Sai. But, still hoping this happens and Sai has a tough time trying to get Savi back.

Not just for Vankar, for every PH, the FL is their favorite because they believe the show runs on FL's shoulders and for that they always butcher the ML.

@purple - Do you remember one of the precaps last week where Virat is proposing Sai with a mike and telling her, look Savi is also with me and at that very moment, Savi leaves Virat and goes towards Sai.

That precap showed that Savi will choose Sai over Virat.

Plus, Savi has been always growing up with Sai so why will she leave Sai now?

Originally posted by: Fats24

I agree with you. I have been saying this in many of my posts about Virat's feelings and pain. Why is Virat's pain always ignored? If you remember when Virat took Sai to Mahableshwar to celebrate their anniversary by saying that it was an official trip and as soon as she came to know the truth she screamed at him. She destroyed the decorations he had done for her. She insulted him so much that it left a scar and then later she even accused him of feeling insecure because Samrat returned. And, then when Virat distanced himself she asked him what has she done? Seriously? This girl didn't even realise what she had done and said to him in that trip. And, still people felt bad for her and not Virat. To be honest Sai is the culprit and Virat is the victim. She loves to guilt trip him in the name of sacrifice and being great.

In marriage or for that matter any relationship trust and respect for each other is an extremely important factor.

After these 2 comes love.

All these 3 things is needed to be earned.If given in platter, it serves no purpose.

In Sairat’s marriage, there were always 3 people from the start.

Virat didn’t take stand for Sai most of the times and always called her immature and stubborn.

He insulted her in many ways and worst of all he called her an orphan and allowed his family members to do so as well.
So she always believed that Virat loved Patralekha and will love her all his life because he never took a stand when Patralekha insulted Sai time and again.

Hence, her reaction in Mahabaleshwar.

Now coming to culprit and victim.

Both are culprit and victim because they don’t listen to what the other person is saying and thus assume and presume things.

But one thing that’s extremely pathetic on Virat’s part is he never trusted his love.

If he ever saw her with a guy he character assassinated her and that’s not acceptable whatever be the level or degree of love he has for her.

And given the way he is behaving now, obsessed and possessed lover, it isn’t actually love but the feeling of ownership.

How can she choose someone else apart from me?

This underlying character of his is making him completely non-relatable.

Originally posted by: Aleyamma47

@purple - Ummm...I don't think so, even if Neil is the highest paid they can replace him as the male lead because it already happened in other star shows, Anupama and Imlie.

I think they are already in the process of doing it, by making Virat a COMPLETE VILLAIN.

Soon, Virat will be made the negative lead and Satya the positive main male lead.

Anupama was always Rupali and Imlie was always Sumbul so according to me if Virat started Ghum with GC they will not be making him negative and definitely because it's about children here and Satya's past and Girija's present status all these are mystery....I don't have any ideas about these shows....

Originally posted by: looseseal

I think its the opposite. I think Virat get sympathies from (some) fans just because he is a ML. If ane other male charatcer in the show would have done the thing that his man has done than the supposedly righteous ML would have turned into hero and saved the woman from that male character.

As for the characters in the show are concerned everyone, including Sai and Satya, is showing puppy eyes to the supposedly great lover and father Virat. Just because Sai isn't hopping in his bed as per his 24hr demand doesnt mean his pain is ignored.

I once read that there are two types of respect: respect for a person as a human being, and respect for a person as an authority. And some peopel expect you to respect thems as your authority for them to treat you as human.

Characters of this show and some fans want Sai to listen and go with every tantrums and demands of Virat, otherwise she isn't allowed to be happy on her own, with or without her children, with or without a partner....she will only be respected when she is dealing (not fighting, not escaping but dealing) with consequence of Virat's judgement and actions.

Virat has zero character sketch. There is not one thing that is good, or stands out about him— other than his abnormal spinelessness— irrespective of his behaviour with the women around him.

The only people who find anything worthy in him are Bhatt fans (or closeted women-haters).

I have seen and even enjoyed watching problematic characters like Bajaj or Arnav or Jagya but the amount of depth in their characters make them (anti) hero material.

Virat has none

Originally posted by: Ashane25

Anupama was always Rupali and Imlie was always Sumbul so according to me if Virat started Ghum with GC they will not be making him negative and definitely because it's about children here and Satya's past and Girija's present status all these are mystery....I don't have any ideas about these shows....

Girija's present state is a memory. She died after consuming poison, and there were witnesses for that. Ofcourse the writers seem conflicted on it when Satya says that he couldn't be there for her last moments yet you see her dieing while holding his hand.

Satya's past (wrt Girija) isn't hidden to Sai, so won't coz any issues unless she comes out alive from dead, his family's, especially Amba's past, sure that's one thing to be explored and will have major implications on the kids (especially Savi) and Sai.

Originally posted by: looseseal

I think its the opposite. I think Virat get sympathies from (some) fans just because he is a ML. If ane other male charatcer in the show would have done the thing that his man has done than the supposedly righteous ML would have turned into hero and saved the woman from that male character.

As for the characters in the show are concerned everyone, including Sai and Satya, is showing puppy eyes to the supposedly great lover and father Virat. Just because Sai isn't hopping in his bed as per his 24hr demand doesnt mean his pain is ignored.

I once read that there are two types of respect: respect for a person as a human being, and respect for a person as an authority. And some peopel expect you to respect thems as your authority for them to treat you as human.

Characters of this show and some fans want Sai to listen and go with every tantrums and demands of Virat, otherwise she isn't allowed to be happy on her own, with or without her children, with or without a partner....she will only be respected when she is dealing (not fighting, not escaping but dealing) with consequence of Virat's judgement and actions.

It was a beautiful note but then also what I believe is that after Samrat's death and consider it till surrogacy track and all that pakhi kaand they were having stories and the characters who had given negative frame like Kaku then and PL of that time JT and Sada and other misunderstandings but then after leap the show is just dealing with the mess gathered with the time and now it is heading towards something new then also it's so complicated that something or someone will definitely gonna lose it's ends otherwise no constructive progression is expected so they are just coming with a dragging ep for trp having lesser sense and less practicality so with this concept if you are saying that what Virat did is the respect of authority towards him being the ML otherwise his actions are in a sense villainous then it's definitely required to understand the root cause of all this which is Sai not getting back home I know this is past and I am just putting my view because there is big difference between being the one and becoming the one as Virat became because of all what happened and still happening and yeah the former statement can also be applied to Sai as she didn't get over her ego many times which she terms as self respect that is the main cause of this rush and if Sai will not be happy with or without partner or children is not even a topic which needs to be discussed because definitely children will always be in the centre and the things ahead so definitely she is not allowed to fight as it will ruin many things and definitely nit to escape but deal and not with Virat's actions and judgement infact the preliminary factor behind them like it was pakhi and Kaku and somehow JT and now in some sense Satya.....

Originally posted by: oye_nakhrewaali

Girija's present state is a memory. She died after consuming poison, and there were witnesses for that. Ofcourse the writers seem conflicted on it when Satya says that he couldn't be there for her last moments yet you see her dieing while holding his hand.

Satya's past (wrt Girija) isn't hidden to Sai, so won't coz any issues unless she comes out alive from dead, his family's, especially Amba's past, sure that's one thing to be explored and will have major implications on the kids (especially Savi) and Sai.

I think Girija's part is very conflictive but along with the things you shared I think a lot more drama is remaining.....and I don't think so that Satya is here for long run because I don't know I have seen his craft and he is very limited wrt to acting layers while connecting with the scope of importance to his role yeah he has a good personality but acting is much more than that and Neil is great in all these and definitely a good rapport with Vankar will provide him the space not early but with time because negative scenarios remained so long and it's not Anupama you need an equally promising ML after a certain point....

Originally posted by: Ashane25

I think Girija's part is very conflictive but along with the things you shared I think a lot more drama is remaining.....and I don't think so that Satya is here for long run because I don't know I have seen his craft and he is very limited wrt to acting layers while connecting with the scope of importance to his role yeah he has a good personality but acting is much more than that and Neil is great in all these and definitely a good rapport with Vankar will provide him the space not early but with time because negative scenarios remained so long and it's not Anupama you need an equally promising ML after a certain point....

Itna sach, Satya, truth in one sentence😛😛😎

How are you kid? How's college?

Originally posted by: Ashane25

I don't know but then also people defended Sai????

And yeah I don't want to remember that episodes I really feel bad for Virat there when everyone was abusing him in hospital for Sai's state and he was just like how is Sai and was giving every effort directly indirectly for her when he dreamt of Sai that she again started speaking with him and the face with a big smile he made there and that teary eyes I was like this is love....

True. I felt so bad for him. There were many instances where he was criticised for none of his faults but noone felt his pain.

Originally posted by: Aleyamma47

Not just for Vankar, for every PH, the FL is their favorite because they believe the show runs on FL's shoulders and for that they always butcher the ML.

@purple - Do you remember one of the precaps last week where Virat is proposing Sai with a mike and telling her, look Savi is also with me and at that very moment, Savi leaves Virat and goes towards Sai.

That precap showed that Savi will choose Sai over Virat.

Plus, Savi has been always growing up with Sai so why will she leave Sai now?

Yes, I do remember. But, how will Sai ask Savi to acknowledge her marriage with Satya and accept him as her father? It's the same situation where Virat is unable to tell Vinayak that his Ayi is Sai and not Pakhi. Won't Savi feel awkward to call someone else as her father?