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Posted: 4 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Agree with what you said . Just want to add that many times Virat has asked her to move on and embrace her new life with Samrat . Virat has been very clear on that yet Pakhi is delusional to believe he would indulge in EMA with her .


Even during the Vaada , he was clear that he will respect their deal provided she accepts Samrat wholeheartedly. Sometimes I am confused if Virat broke the Vaada or Pakhi . Pakhi never accepted Samrat so her expectation that Virat will fulfill his side of commitment shows her selfishness. At one point , I felt that Virat should have spoken to Pakhi clearly that Vaada no longer exists and he is breaking it . I believe she at-least deserves this from Virat .


Sure, I agree. I just have 0 sympathy left for her, so whenever someone says something like this, my brain shuts off 🤣

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Posted: 4 years ago
#42

Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Nethraa personally I was never comfortable with how they talked even before Sai entered his life in the beginning, just after the marriage on his SR.. I just let it go because people here on the forum made me believe that he was just being a friend to her..But honestly I never got convinced. They were certainly having an emotional relationship and he did let Pakhi know the dynamic of his relationship with Sai in order to keep that intact. Some say, he let her know about the deal as a friend, to me it looked more like he is trying to clear his stance to her.. Also him allowing Pakhi to constantly interfere in their matters, with him also going on to explain the details of the SR was simply not needed. He let her in late night infront of his wife to have a chit chat which was again inconsiderate if not insensitive. Yet again the whole phone convo during Ladakh trip or even the packing conversation was something that has made Sai the woman she is today.. Its not just his words of rejection in the beginning of the relationship, it was how he and Pakhi made her feel in the beginning , is what has bottled up to and extent that she is here standing all insecure and blurting out things.. For Pakhi he let her know too late verbally after having moved on.. He assumed since he has moved on, she too will.. The first time he lets her know in direct words were when the handholding scenes happens and he in disgust tells what Sai thinks about them and ultimately he sees hope in Pakhi's eyes and denies it.. In all this was not Sai right...he called it bakwaas , but she was right and did he go to tell her , Oh Sai you were right there and I have clarified things...Virat certainly is a person who thinks, if he has conveyed things , it would have been conveyed as clearly as he assumed.. and tends to ignore the reactions..


I am more with asmi here ..for virat things changed midway .. certainly when samrat was getting married and before he left .. he was having an emotional relationship..


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Posted: 4 years ago
#43

Originally posted by: 404_NotFound

Agree with what you said . Just want to add that many times Virat has asked her to move on and embrace her new life with Samrat . Virat has been very clear on that yet Pakhi is delusional to believe he would indulge in EMA with her .


Even during the Vaada , he was clear that he will respect their deal provided she accepts Samrat wholeheartedly. Sometimes I am confused if Virat broke the Vaada or Pakhi . Pakhi never accepted Samrat so her expectation that Virat will fulfill his side of commitment shows her selfishness. At one point , I felt that Virat should have spoken to Pakhi clearly that Vaada no longer exists and he is breaking it . I believe she at-least deserves this from Virat .


When samrat had already left .. he told her to focus on samrat .. ..He was picking up her phone calls to have Cosy chats with her .. why did he even pick up the phone to have a heart to heart talk during her Suhaag Raat ..



Till he decided that Sai is attractive and I will focus on her .. he was stringing both along .. and there was guilt when he used to glance at her .. during her medical admission time his attention became more marked towards Sai abd he started behaving platonically with pakhi


when ajinkye or Amey was talking with Sai he got offended and got angry .. so he knew the boundaries his wife should maintain even though they are in a deal relationship..

The casual way he talks with Pakhi .. does it look like he’s talking with samrat’s wife .. his sister in law .. does Mohit treat Sai the same way ..

Now that samrat is here .. I want to see how virat addresses pakhi .,


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Posted: 4 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: msin


I am more with asmi here ..for virat things changed midway .. certainly when samrat was getting married and before he left .. he was having an emotional relationship..


Yes, he had residual feelings for Pakhi.. He tried to mask these feelings with great difficulty but they popped up here and there unconsciously. He never acted upon those emotions, but his decision to continue friendship with her was absurd..

I could even understand their 2days fatal attraction love story but not their 2 days BFF wali friendship. How can someone forge such a friendship in few days? He should have stayed away from her till those feelings completely dissipated.

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Posted: 4 years ago
#45

Originally posted by: msin


When samrat had already left .. he told her to focus on samrat .. ..He was picking up her phone calls to have Cosy chats with her .. why did he even pick up the phone to have a heart to heart talk during her Suhaag Raat ..



Till he decided that Sai is attractive and I will focus on her .. he was stringing both along .. and there was guilt when he used to glance at her .. during her medical admission time his attention became more marked towards Sai abd he started behaving platonically with pakhi


when ajinkye or Amey was talking with Sai he got offended and got angry .. so he knew the boundaries his wife should maintain even though they are in a deal relationship..

The casual way he talks with Pakhi .. does it look like he’s talking with samrat’s wife .. his sister in law .. does Mohit treat Sai the same way ..

Now that samrat is here .. I want to see how virat addresses pakhi .,


@bolded: The reason he got offended these times was because of his own insecurities and uncertainties about his place in Sai's life. Had they already confessed and made their relationship "real" on all ends, he would not have acted in the way he did. It was not about Sai maintaining her boundaries... it was his own issues coming to the forefront. The problem is that he does not see how his behavior towards Pakhi impacts Sai... he is unable to look at things from her perspective, because in his mind, his intentions are pure... he is too busy drowning in his own emotions....

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Posted: 4 years ago
#46

Originally posted by: msin


When samrat had already left .. he told her to focus on samrat .. ..He was picking up her phone calls to have Cosy chats with her .. why did he even pick up the phone to have a heart to heart talk during her Suhaag Raat ..



Till he decided that Sai is attractive and I will focus on her .. he was stringing both along .. and there was guilt when he used to glance at her .. during her medical admission time his attention became more marked towards Sai abd he started behaving platonically with pakhi


when ajinkye or Amey was talking with Sai he got offended and got angry .. so he knew the boundaries his wife should maintain even though they are in a deal relationship..

The casual way he talks with Pakhi .. does it look like he’s talking with samrat’s wife .. his sister in law .. does Mohit treat Sai the same way ..

Now that samrat is here .. I want to see how virat addresses pakhi .,



@bolded: I am sorry but this is extremely unfair to say in my opinion. To say that Virat "focused" on Sai because she was attractive is an insult to his love for her. Even before marriage, his priority was always Sai. He chose to save Sai instead of attending Pakhi's marriage, and while Pakhi was screaming her love for him, he was busy talking about Sai's bright future. After they got married, his priority continued to be Sai. He stood up for her during the wedding reception, rice ceremony, and when the family was misunderstanding her visit to DIG Sir. These instances were all before the admission track...and there are many more I can list out. In fact, right after marriage, when Sai was talking about the deal, he told her to stop talking about their private matters in front of other people- the other being Pakhi. Sure, he was attracted to her... but to reduce his feelings and care for her to that is just 😭

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#47

Originally posted by: tptwi


@bolded: I am sorry but this is extremely unfair to say in my opinion. To say that Virat "focused" on Sai because she was attractive is an insult to his love for her. Even before marriage, his priority was always Sai. He chose to save Sai instead of attending Pakhi's marriage, and while Pakhi was screaming her love for him, he was busy talking about Sai's bright future. After they got married, his priority continued to be Sai. He stood up for her during the wedding reception, rice ceremony, and when the family was misunderstanding her visit to DIG Sir. These instances were all before the admission track...and there are many more I can list out. In fact, right after marriage, when Sai was talking about the deal, he told her to stop talking about their private matters in front of other people- the other being Pakhi. Sure, he was attracted to her... but to reduce his feelings and care for her to that is just 😭


Things are never black n white … he was always attached to Sai .. but he was attracted to pakhi in the initial stages .. especially during the early days of marriage .. he had not seen much of pakhi .. she wax a mythical personality..

he had only seen her best self .. in yoga camp .. the shy flirty fun loving girl .. during engagement abd her Shadi there were emotional conversations of laila majnu


whereas in contrast with Sai he had a lot of confrontations , arguments , he saw Sai ka fierce side ..


Pakhi seemed more desirable to him .. can u deny he kept on glancing at pakhi during the phera ceremony , photo session before reception


Can u deny he was explain to pakhi why he married Sai .. which Sai overheard .. even before the DIG episode he was blaming Sai as a millstone around his neck .. infront of pakhi ..

today he’s very clear about making Sai abd his relationship niji baat .. but in the first month .. he himself was complaining about the issues troubling him regarding Sai infront of her to pakhi ..

Things changed gradually for virat .. but the initial month did the damage in his relationship with Sai .. she was making an earnest effort in the first 2-3 weeks .. but once it got fed in her brain virat loves pakhi .. it’s becoming difficult to erase .. no matter how hard virat tries .


being attached and being attracted are two different things .. initial month of marriage he took Sai as a young girl … immature …pakhi the woman who is mature from the Amey track it dawned on him .. she can flirt and be coy .. and if he doesn’t pay attention other men will .. since she’s not stuck in the house .. she goes to college ..


Edited by msin - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#48

Originally posted by: msin


Things are never black n white … he was always attached to Sai .. but he was attracted to pakhi in the initial stages .. especially during the early days of marriage .. he had not seen much of pakhi .. she wax a mythical personality..

he had only seen her best self .. in yoga camp .. the shy flirty fun loving girl .. during engagement abd her Shadi there were emotional conversations of laila majnu


whereas in contrast with Sai he had a lot of confrontations , arguments , he saw Sai ka fierce side ..


Pakhi seemed more desirable to him .. can u deny he kept on glancing at pakhi during the phera ceremony , photo session before reception


Can u deny he was explain to pakhi why he married Sai .. which Sai overheard .. even before the DIG episode he was blaming Sai as a millstone around his neck .. infront of pakhi ..

today he’s very clear about making Sai abd his relationship niji baat .. but in the first month .. he himself was complaining about the issues troubling him regarding Sai infront of her to pakhi ..

Things changed gradually for virat .. but the initial month did the damage in his relationship with Sai .. she was making an earnest effort in the first 2-3 weeks .. but once it got fed in her brain virat loves pakhi .. it’s becoming difficult to erase .. no matter how hard virat tries .


being attached and being attracted are two different things .. initial month of marriage he took Sai as a young girl … immature …pakhi the woman who is mature from the Amey track it dawned on him .. she can flirt and be coy .. and if he doesn’t pay attention other men will .. since she’s not stuck in the house .. she goes to college ..


I am sorry but I have a complete different view in this matter . Virat never fell for Sai because she could flirt or she is an attractive women . He fell for her nature not looks .


Virat never once thought about Pakhi in that manner . He glanced at her during the wedding and photo session as he was guilty of not keeping his promise and for messing up her life . He did not ogle at Pakhi or was not checking her out . If he was of lose morals , he would have indulged in EMA as Pakhi was willing but he never did it .


He found Sai immature and he has reasons fir that . He had seen her behavior in GC and they she behaved it was natural for him to feel she was immature . The little he knew about Pakhi , he thought she was mature but that doesn’t mean he was attracted to Pakhi . Many times in life we feel our partners are not perfect . Does it mean we are looking for EMA ?

Edited by 404_NotFound - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#49

For me Pakhi always wanted an EMA and Virat in a way led her on for a good duration of time, though unintentionally.. About residual feelings he did have it till she left of to her maayka and he actually saw how Sai is in general.. After this till the handholding kaand , he was negligent or ignorant towards both the women's feeling by wanting them to become friends, lying to them here and there and also not letting know Pakhi in direct words that he does not love her, unlike what was the case when she was getting married to Samrat... He did it only when he saw that hope, that glimpse of happiness in her eyes, when he mentioned in disgust what Sai thinks of their pious friendship..

Going in each other room's late at night , after having had a relationship in the past, even when you are friends now is not the culture that is followed in joint families... and not in general also, there is a basic decency ex-lovers have to follow that both crossed..

The most despicable scene was the one where she steps out from the bathroom and asks him to state, that eye lock and then him realising it and keeping his eyes down... certainly said something about his residual feelings..

He was wrong in assuming that Pakhi has moved on , if he has as well, just by his talk on the ALTA episode or the valentine's day episode. That talk in no way meant he does not have that feeling for her, that talk was more about two people in love moving on with two different people but yet keeping each other in their heart. Because destiny played with them... He also failed to see how Pakhi was more interested in going with him to Ladakh, more than finding a lost son..

Edited by asmi_joya - 4 years ago
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Posted: 4 years ago
#50

Originally posted by: msin


Things are never black n white … he was always attached to Sai .. but he was attracted to pakhi in the initial stages .. especially during the early days of marriage .. he had not seen much of pakhi .. she wax a mythical personality..

he had only seen her best self .. in yoga camp .. the shy flirty fun loving girl .. during engagement abd her Shadi there were emotional conversations of laila majnu


whereas in contrast with Sai he had a lot of confrontations , arguments , he saw Sai ka fierce side ..


Pakhi seemed more desirable to him .. can u deny he kept on glancing at pakhi during the phera ceremony , photo session before reception


Can u deny he was explain to pakhi why he married Sai .. which Sai overheard .. even before the DIG episode he was blaming Sai as a millstone around his neck .. infront of pakhi ..

today he’s very clear about making Sai abd his relationship niji baat .. but in the first month .. he himself was complaining about the issues troubling him regarding Sai infront of her to pakhi ..

Things changed gradually for virat .. but the initial month did the damage in his relationship with Sai .. she was making an earnest effort in the first 2-3 weeks .. but once it got fed in her brain virat loves pakhi .. it’s becoming difficult to erase .. no matter how hard virat tries .


being attached and being attracted are two different things .. initial month of marriage he took Sai as a young girl … immature …pakhi the woman who is mature from the Amey track it dawned on him .. she can flirt and be coy .. and if he doesn’t pay attention other men will .. since she’s not stuck in the house .. she goes to college ..



@bolded: Again, I repeat what I have already said. This to me is an insult to his love for Sai. He did not fall for Sai because he saw that she could flirt or be coy. He was already falling for her way before the Amay track...not because of her looks, but because of her personality.... the way she loved her abba unconditionally, the way she was not afraid to call out wrong and stand up for right, the way she expressed her emotions to the fullest, the way she accepted and respected his family, the way she lived life, the way she made him laugh, and so much more....


The times that you have mentioned him looking at Pakhi were not because he was attracted to her. It was, in my opinion, clearly his guilt.


I agree that the way in which he has been unable to see things from Sai's perspective when it comes to Pakhi have taken an immense toll on Sai. I have said this many times. But, that does not mean that we can question his intentions and morals....

Edited by tptwi - 4 years ago

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