Why do they need space from each other?

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Just came across some clips from the last part of the episode today and honestly my heart broke for Virat not just because how devastated he is of not having any chance with Sai , but also because he does not realise that Sai's only chance is him of only he could realise. From this point on this man needs to emotionally distance himself from Sai. Keeping aside his articulation issues and his lack of courage to discuss the past that embarrasses him, I am making this post. Me and my fellow friends from the time he gave the gyan after the Mirchi kaand have discussed on and on about how he is not capable of addressing certain issues hand on , when he is guilty or feels like a participant. So yeah keeping all that aside I would like to talk about how and why he needs space.

They both need space from each other to specifically think about this relationship. Virat needs to step back to understand his importance in Sai's life and Sai needs to step back for her importance in his life.

Honestly I have seen that , the general opinion is that Virat has felt and witnessed the fear of Sai leaving and Sai needs to feel the same. However in my opinion, both have been feeling and living the fear of rejection, of getting separated. Its just that we have a clear picture on Virat's fear and no picture when it comes to Sai. Sai keeps on talking on how she would leave , she would leave while for Virat its the trigger that activates his fear and for Sai its the way she controls her fear. Everytime she feels that she is getting attached to him or the family or for that matter when she realises he loves someone else she plays this card to protect herself. They both are craving each other, they both have an extreme yearn for each other but then they are also very indifferent towards others yearning for themselves.

And hence I believe they need their space. Specially Virat. Virat has in their good days always went ahead to make Sai special. He smiles when she smiles and he gets disoriented when he sees tears in her eyes. I am keeping away any reference to the CN Niwasis in this post, because if we get into that dynamic, our expectations from Virat would grow and he might fail us there, because of the values he holds important, the issues he evaded for this toxic family. He even though did not like Sai with Ajinkya, not just went ahead to attend her fest but also cleared her mess, convinced the family to peacefully attend it. If not for him the CN buffoons were capable of creating a scene even at Sai's college. He made sure he makes Sai's first birthday without her Aaba the most special. He tries to be polite to her even when she is throwing tantrums and acting brash. He deals with her , with a lot of patience and honestly its too difficult to deal with young wife who is a teenager and who is like Sai. But he has more or less tries to be very tender to her whenever possible. But in all this he kept wanting to have a place in her heart and all he got as per him was subtle rejection. He has a set of bottled up emotions and with him realizing that he is in love and Sai might not be in love with him, he has placed it heart at a vulnerable place. A place where he has closed his heart and mind from understanding Sai and her indifference towards him. Virat is very open when it comes to showing his love, while Sai is very closed and subtle. But right now he has so much of under-confidence with respect to Sai , that for him to understand that those subtle expressions is extremely impossible for him. He needs this distance from Sai not just to heal his heart that is almost broken but also to understand what his indifference can do to Sai... Before this whenever she has seen his indifference she knew he is wrong and angry.. And within days, he would come back to her realizing his mistake.. But this time he is not entirely at fault. So when Virat sees her suffering from his indifference, he would realise he matters to her, his being in her life matters to her...Its not just about himself but also realising her cravings for him..Virat is clear about his feelings he has to know what Sai feels for him. So this is needed for him to realise that, since along with us even he underrates his importance in Sai's life. He also needs to know that he is the only one who can break her zidd, who can take advantage of her, who can take her for granted. Its painful to see him think that Aai, Mohit, CN members are more important to her than her Virat Sir..He needs to know that if he is not there in her life, there is no meaning to anyone else. He needs to know she has given him all the HAQ on her, unlike what he believes. That she wants to be bounded to him and not freed by him. Until now he had hopes of his love getting reciprocated but he has not just lost that hope but has also somehow believed that Sai is not interested in even staying with him. He has clubbed everything that she has done for him under "zimmedaari" .

Virat cannot stay without Sai and he knows it clearly but for himself and her, he would have to.


Sai, well she needs her space because she has always been surrounded with something or the other. Eveything that happens around her is so contrasting.. Sai's love is in the fact that she has chosen Virat over her morals, her self respect. The Sai Joshi who I first saw in the show, would have filed an FIR against the CN people and Virat for manhandling her long back. She has always always chosen him over everything. So I dont want to go there. Coming to why she needs this space. Sai is this whole marriage of one year has seen different version of Virat and also felt different feelings for that man..This man has confused her from telling her that he can never get over the woman he is in love with and hence the marriage would be just a responsibility , rejected her as a woman as a wife now tells her that he wants the marriage to be real and also wants to celebrate the same day , he rejected her as a wife. After marriage he called her the other woman is love and Sai is mistake that led him to lose his most loved person. He let the other woman interfere in his matters with Sai and allowed her to school Sai when she crossed limits...for a good good while . He was blind to the fact that the other woman needed schooling as well. By the time he realised, a part of damage was done.On top of that what add to her confusion is that he has never clearly tried to clear his stance on Pakhi and yet shown her his attraction towards her as a husband. Every time she wanted to get drowned in those eyes of love she was rudely awakened.. For instance before the whole Harini Birthday confrontation, Sai with authority called him her husband, whether she fought him or took his side, she called him her husband. When she saw Virat almost dying, she forgot her anger and realised how unlike what she thinks, she treats herself his wife. She forgot his love for Pakhi, she forgot her position in life, all it was for her then was her husband and she herself. Whether she stayed with him or not, she was his wife and he her husband. And she also was giving into her desires that she has for this man since a long time. She was falling for him and without any realisation at that. But when she witnessed the love story that she was not privy to she took a backseat. She was reminded of the real deal of the marriage , of the rejection , of her position in his life and the other woman's position in his life. . After the whole Saree kaand, Sai stopped calling him her husband in front of the said woman, her husband and the family that had no issues with her giving up her rights on her husband.

In all this she feels loved by Virat and yet always reminded by the woman looming outside the room that she was promised the love Sai is trying to see in her husband's eyes The confusion led her to behave the only way she knew , being brash to Virat for giving her an importance that would be taken away forever, that improtance and probably the love that is temporary. But she always always got his attention, whether he was angry or in good moment, she would always be in his mind and would always have his attention. His indifference is something that she has not seen , not seen in a way, where there has been no such misunderstanding like Dekit time for him to feel that way. His impassiveness would not just lead her to realise how important she was to him and how much he values her , but most importantly make her realise how much she loves him and cant do without him. The problem with Sai is Sai internally knows her importance in his life , but fails to understand it as love and on top of that has no clue she herself is in love with him. This space, this callousness , civility from Virat is needed for her to realise that he had given her a lot of HAQ on him unlike what she thinks and when that is not there how it feels to not have that HAQ on this man. She needs to realise when this man goes away from her what it does to her . She needs to see how this man treats her and the other woman and also respect her own love for him , beyond any other woman's love. SHe needs to know only she and she has the HAQ on him, that she has unwillingly given to other woman. She needs to confront her own feelings. Till now she has been evading it all. She needs to deal with her feelings now and not keep evading them in the name of Doctor ban jaungi tab jaungi. She does not deserve to handle it all alone, figure it all out without any assurance from the man who laid the basis of relationship with certain terms, but then probably that's her fate. When no Aaba or Virat by her side, she will have to handle things on her own.

Sai cannot stay without Virat, but she does not know that and she will have to realise it.


SO yeah the track would be great if they handle this greatly however I dont have much hopes going by how they came up with the Promo. This track has a great potential. The ride is bumpy and painful for Sai , for Virat and for the fans but then we all have to go through it.

In all this I would not forget that Virat has to clear his stance on Pakhi and her position in his life to Sai in SPASHT words. He has been insensitive to both women and their feelings in the way he handled the whole situation. Pakhi being delusional will not change that fact. And confession or no confession I would like to see that, in a man like Virat Chavhan , who is not toxic to an extent who would force his wife to be with him just because he is in love with her. He would let her go, because thats what he thinks her happiness lies in.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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I agree with you ☺️

Both need some emo and physical space

Last two lines are exactly what I feel.

My bro always told either u do or u don't there is never anything in between when it comes to chemistry emo and even physical ..u cannot force it. Somethings are not meant to be at my first heartbreak.

There is lack of respect and communication with and for each other . Virat for me personally is too no confrontational...sai probably is a person who needs that stuff clearly spelt out( this is more in terms of PP)

Plus the way he expects her go adjust to fam toxicity is disappointing

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The problem for virat is exactly what u said he doesn't say things in spaash words. If u have noticed sai is always clear in whatever she says. She says in point blank. Even when sai asked virat what is reason he bought her here, he was standing mum. And when sai also asked him that pakhi is still in his heart he didn't even reply let alone clarify. This is the problem. Lack of communication and not willing to clear things.

Sai on the other hand is not willing to let her heart hear what virat is trying to say. And to be honest if ur ex is physco and keeps coming in between then it obviously becomes more difficult. And Sai always thinks till today that Virat will never be mine fully. So what is the use of giving in to emotions.

So basically the only way is to talk it out and confront their emotions and let go of their insecurity.

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Beautifully written👏


Much needed clear post on both Sai and Virat.


Me too...want a separation, an emotional one from Virat. Sai will not even realise what hit her, she will not be able to handle it. But am sure at first, she will provoke him a lot trying to coax a response out of him. So yes, tough ride for us fans.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

Just came across some clips from the last part of the episode today and honestly my heart broke for Virat not just because how devastated he is of not having any chance with Sai , but also because he does not realise that Sai's only chance is him of only he could realise. From this point on this man needs to emotionally distance himself from Sai. Keeping aside his articulation issues and his lack of courage to discuss the past that embarrasses him, I am making this post. Me and my fellow friends from the time he have the gyan after his Mirchi kaand have discussed on and on about how he is not capable of addressing certain issues hand on , when he is guilty or feels like a participant. So yeah keeping all that aside I would like to talk about how and why he need space.

They both need space from each other to specifically think about this relationship. Virat needs to step back to understand his importance in Sai's life and Sai needs to step back for her importance in his life.

Honestly I have seen that , the general opinion is that Virat has felt and witnessed the fear of Sai leaving and Sai needs to feel the same. However in my opinion, both have been feeling and living the fear of rejection, of getting separated. Its just that we have a clear picture on Virat's fear and no picture when it comes to Sai. Sai keeps on talking on how she would leave , she would leave while for Virat its the trigger that activates his fear and for Sai its the way she controls her fear. Everytime she feels that she is getting attached to him or the family or for that matter when she realises he loves someone else she plays this card to protect herself. They both are craving each other, they both have an extreme yearn for each other but then they are also very indifferent towards others yearning for themselves.

And hence I believe they need their space. Specially Virat. Virat has in their good days always went ahead to make Sai special. He smiles when she smiles and he gets disoriented when he sees tears in her eyes. I am keeping away any reference to the CN in this post, because if we get onto that dynamic, our expectations from Virat would grow and he might fail us there, because of the values he holds important the tissues he evaded for this toxic family. He even though did not like Sai with Ajinkya, not just went ahead to attend her but also cleared her mess, convinced the family to peacefully attend it. If not for him the CN buffoons were capable of creating a scene even at Sai's college. He made sure he makes Sai's first birthday without her Aaba the most special. He tries to be polite to her even when she is throwing tantrums and acting brash. He deals with her , with a lot of patience and honestly its too difficult to deal with young wife who is a teenager and who is like Sai. But he has more or less tries to be very tender to her whenever possible. But in all this he kept wanting to have a place in her heart and all he got as per him was subtle rejection. He has a set of bottled up emotions and with him realizing that he is in love and Sai might not be in love with him, he has placed it heart at a vulnerable place. A place where he has closed his heart and mind from understanding Sai and her indifference towards him. Virat is very open when it comes to showing his love, while Sai is very closed and subtle. But right now he has so much of under-confidence with respect to Sai , that for him to understand that those subtle expressions is extremely impossible for him. He needs this distance from Sai not just to heal his heart that is almost broken but also to understand what his indifference can do to Sai... Before this whenever she has seen his indifference she knew he is wrong and angry.. And within days, he would come back to her realizing his mistake.. But this time he is not entirely at fault. So when Virat sees her suffering from his indifference, he would realise he matters to her, his being in her life matters to her...Its not just about himself but also realising her cravings for him..Virat is clear about his feelings he has to know what Sai feels for him. So this is needed for him to realise that, since along with us even he underrates his importance in Sai's life. He also needs to know that he is the only one who can break her zidd, who can take advantage of her, who can take her for granted. Its painful to see him think that Aai, Mohit, CN members are more important to her than her Virat Sir..He needs to know that if he is not there in her life, there is no meaning to anyone else. He needs to know she has given him all the HAQ on her, unlike what he believes. That she wants to be bounded to him and not freed by him. Until now he had hopes of his love getting reciprocated but he has not just lost that hope but has also somehow believed that Sai is not interested in even staying with him. He has clubbed everything that she has done for him under "zimmedaari" .

Virat cannot stay without Sai and he knows it clearly but for himself and her, he would have to.


Sai, well she needs her space because she has always been surrounded with something or the other. Eveything that happens around her is so contrasting.. Sai's love is in the fact that she has chosen Virat over her morals, her self respect. The Sai Joshi who I first saw in the show, would have filed an FIR against the CN people and Virat for manhandling her long back. She has always always chosen him over everything. So I dont want to go there. Coming to why she needs this space. Sai is this whole marriage of one year has seen different version of Virat and also felt different feelings for that man..This man has confused her from telling her that he can never get over the woman he is in love with and hence the marriage would be just a responsibility , rejected her as a woman as a wife now tells her that he wants the marriage to be real and also wants to celebrate the same day , he rejected her as a wife. After marriage he called her the other woman is love and Sai is mistake that led him to lose his most loved person. He let the other woman interfere in his matters with Sai and allowed her to school Sai when she crossed limits...for a good good while . He was blind to the fact that the other woman needed schooling as well. By the time he realised, a part of damage was done.On top of that what add to her confusion is that he has never clearly tried to clear his stance on Pakhi and yet shown her his attraction towards her as a husband. Every time she wanted to get drowned in those eyes of love she was rudely awakened.. For instance before the whole Harini Birthday confrontation, Sai with authority called him her husband, whether she fought him or took his side, she called him her husband. When she saw Virat almost dying, she forgot her anger and realised how unlike what she thinks, she treats herself his wife. She forgot his love for Pakhi, she forgot her position in life, all it was for her then was her husband and she herself. Whether she stayed with him or not, she was his wife and he her husband. And she also was giving into her desires that she has for this man since a long time. She was falling for him and without any realisation at that. But when she witnessed the love story that she was not privy to she took a backseat. She was reminded of the real deal of the marriage , of the rejection , of her position in his life and the other woman's position in his life. . After the whole Saree kaand, Sai stopped calling him her husband in front of the said woman, her husband and the family that had no issues with her giving up her rights on her husband.

In all this she feels loved by Virat and yet always reminded by the woman looming outside the room that she was promised the love Sai is trying to see in her husband's eyes The confusion led her to behave the only way she knew , being brash to Virat for giving her an importance that would be taken away forever, that improtance and probably the love that is temporary. But she always always got his attention, whether he was angry or in good moment, she would always be in his mind and would always have his attention. His indifference is something that she has not seen , not seen in a way, where there has been no such misunderstanding like Dekit time for him to feel that way. His impassiveness would not just lead her to realise how important she was to him and how much he values her , but most importantly make her realise how much she loves him and cant do without him. The problem with Sai is Sai internally knows her importance in his life , but fails to understand it as love and on top of that has no clue she herself is in love with him. This space, this callousness , civility from Virat is needed for her to realise that he had given her a lot of HAQ on him unlike what she thinks and when that is not there how it feels to not have that HAQ on this man. She needs to realise when this man goes away from her what it does to her . She needs to see how this man treats her and the other woman and also respect her own love for him , beyond any other woman's love. SHe needs to know only she and she has the HAQ on him, that she has unwillingly given to other woman. She needs to confront her own feelings. Till now she has been evading it all. She needs to deal with her feelings now and not keep evading them in the name of Doctor ban jaungi tab jaungi. She does not deserve to handle it all alone, figure it all out without any assurance from the man who laid the basis of relationship with certain terms, but then probably that's her fate. When no Aaba or Virat by her side, she will have to handle things on her own.

Sai cannot stay without Virat, but she does not know that and she will have to realise it.


SO yeah the track would be great if they handle this greatly however I dont have much hopes going by how they came up with the Promo. This track has a great potential. The ride is bumpy and painful for Sai , for Virat and for the fans but then we all have to go through it.

In all this I would not forget that Virat has to clear his stance on Pakhi and her position in his life to Sai in SPASHT words. He has been insensitive to both women and their feelings in the way he handled the whole situation. Pakhi being delusional will not change that fact. And confession or no confession I would like to see that, in a man like Virat Chavhan , who is not toxic to an extent who would force his wife to be with him just because he is in love with her. He would let her go, because thats what he thinks her happiness lies in.

Beautiful and very thought full post ❤️❤️


@bold yessssss they need to give each other space. This is similar to what I mentioned in Maguets post too today. The space is for them realize how important they are for each other , what significance they hold in each other life, for Sai to realize that Virat loves her and for Virat to realize that he needs to man up and cannot hide behind rejection fear. Him giving her space should not be to punish her since she has already endured and suffered a lot , infact more than Virat since she stepped into chavan khandan.


@underlined again a resounding yessss. He needs to clear this and there should be no other way about this even if sai realizes that he loves her. If he had the courage to talk BS during and after the wedding he should have the same courage to counter all the BS and tell Sai what he really feels. I don't want it to be Sai confessing and all lovey dovey after that🙄 . Infact I want both Virat and Sai to apologize to each other for all the hurtful things they threw at each other until now.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: Rdigest

Beautiful and very thought full post ❤️❤️


@bold yessssss they need to give each other space. This is similar to what I mentioned in Maguets post too today. The space is for them realize how important they are for each other , what significance they hold in each other life, for Sai to realize that Virat loves her and for Virat to realize that he needs to man up and cannot hide behind rejection fear. Him giving her space should not be to punish her since she has already endured and suffered a lot , infact more than Virat since she stepped into chavan khandan.


@underlined again a resounding yessss. He needs to clear this and there should be no other way about this even if sai realizes that he loves her. If he had the courage to talk BS during and after the wedding he should have the same courage to counter all the BS and tell Sai what he really feels. I don't want it to be Sai confessing and all lovey dovey after that🙄 . Infact I want both Virat and Sai to apologize to each other for all the hurtful things they threw at each other until now.

I dont know what is with the need to call , he should punish Sai.. Sai hurt, will not make Virat happy..Infact both of them hurt would only make one person happy..Regarding Sai being punished , well honestly she has been punished a lot in the last one year, not by destiny but also by the said man..

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Well articulated post!

Agree with everything you've said.

Sai needs the space to realise what she was failing to see and notice while Virat was with her all the time. She'll get clarity only then, on how much real and important their relationship has been changed into from a mere deal, especially for Virat.


As for Virat, he needs the time to introspect further of what went wrong with them and maybe finally get sense to give a proper closure, he's given them already many time, but hopefully he can do it now in front of Samrat, so that there's no misconceptions between the two of them at least.


Separation can be painful to watch, but nothing works wonders like separations do in tv shows. Let's hope for the best 🤞

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: AnjuRish

I agree with you ☺️

Both need some emo and physical space

Last two lines are exactly what I feel.

My bro always told either u do or u don't there is never anything in between when it comes to chemistry emo and even physical ..u cannot force it. Somethings are not meant to be at my first heartbreak.

There is lack of respect and communication with and for each other . Virat for me personally is too no confrontational...sai probably is a person who needs that stuff clearly spelt out( this is more in terms of PP)

Plus the way he expects her go adjust to fam toxicity is disappointing

@bold so true 👏


@italic this keeps changing according to the situation for these 2 like a pendulum which is not good in any relationship.

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: rac1

The problem for virat is exactly what u said he doesn't say things in spaash words. If u have noticed sai is always clear in whatever she says. She says in point blank. Even when sai asked virat what is reason he bought her here, he was standing mum. And when sai also asked him that pakhi is still in his heart he didn't even reply let alone clarify. This is the problem. Lack of communication and not willing to clear things.

Sai on the other hand is not willing to let her heart hear what virat is trying to say. And to be honest if ur ex is physco and keeps coming in between then it obviously becomes more difficult. And Sai always thinks till today that Virat will never be mine fully. So what is the use of giving in to emotions.

So basically the only way is to talk it out and confront their emotions and let go of their insecurity.

Every time he is asked a question in spasht shabt, from the time they fought after ladakh trip episode, he shies away or just says, Bakwas kar rahi ho.. How does that work in a relationship.. When has he addresses any issue at all, apart from making her feel special!

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Posted: 4 years ago
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Originally posted by: asmi_joya

I dont know what is with the need to call , he should punish Sai.. Sai hurt, will not make Virat happy..Infact both of them hurt would only make one person happy..Regarding Sai being punished , well honestly she has been punished a lot in the last one year, not by destiny but also by the said man..

@bold I did not really understand the reason for this. But like you said Sai getting hurt would never in a million years make Virat happy and vice versa. They are going through a rough patch where emotions are running high, one realizes the love, other doesn't and fairly enough this is due to all the things which happened in the past and recently. No wife would want to feel like a 2nd fidel after hearing about a suicide drama and chemistry lecture 🙄

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