Jallikkattu.....some thoughts.....do join....

ghsp2fan thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
#1
I'M not posting this as a tamilian but as an Indian and more as a confused concerned citizen just like u...
What's Jallikkattu?
I was also thinking that it's just another game involving bulls...Yes it is to put it in a simple way...
No one would have even bothered to see a news bit on it had it not been banned...
Thanks to PETA for making us know our roots better...
This is used to find the best breed for producing better young ones...
It's a natural phenomenon in the wild and we r trying to give the option to the domesticated animals too...Same with cock and goat fights...
I'm amused to see so many native bull varieties in our area...Want to know about other states tooo...
Guys pls update me...
Wht abt amul state Gujarat and for that matter every Indian state has its own cattle...Wht abt their native varieties...
Just like saying no to GM crops this is our way to say no to GM cattle...
Thankfully we still have our nattu koli(country chicken) and velladu (goat) which most of you may not know...We insist on giving them more to kids... Tastes better too...
I didn't even know abt breeding thru injection till I got to see at my in-laws farm...
All new to me since I was a town brought up...
Then they also used mating...For that only we need native bulls...
My MIL is an expert and I was amused how well she knows her cows...She treats them like family...
Now I want to know your thoughts before I could add more...Come on guys...Over to you now...

Created

Last reply

Replies

6

Views

331

Users

5

Likes

13

Frequent Posters

December04 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#2
e 👏
Edited by diadecember - 8 years ago
sporthy_smile28 thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 180 Thumbnail + 5
Posted: 8 years ago
#3
i dont understand what u are talking about😕
Edited by sporthy_smile28 - 8 years ago
-indu- thumbnail
14th Anniversary Thumbnail Rocker Thumbnail + 4
Posted: 8 years ago
#4


I have been following the news on this from few days...


I think there is no harm in following age old traditions which actually help to increase the no of animals which are in verge of extinct...


Peta is more concerned for the animals... Its okk... But plz don't blow it up and make a tradition disappear... One side they cry that the youth are forgetting the culture.. Values.. Etc... And ither side they only make petitions regarding a culture...

If animals are injured or being ill treated.. They should come with certains guide lines and make a petition to make the rules on the gudelines... Even they can help by putting up medialmedical camps around the areas for immediate medical attention both for animals and himans.. But instead they just want to ban a tradition... I don't know what they get by doing this...


Who knows peta may file a case on the gane of chess also as it has animals in it...




swetha03 thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Visit Streak 90 Thumbnail + 2
Posted: 8 years ago
#5
hey all...
Any one went to Marina for this cause.
I just came back from the protest... Its awesome to see such a crowd for a good cause.
its our tradition and we need it...😊...
I too have seen the bulls in village and seeing the love they have...
and every city is fighting for that. GREAT...


December04 thumbnail
12th Anniversary Thumbnail Voyager Thumbnail
Posted: 8 years ago
#6

Originally posted by: sporthy_smile28

i dont understand what u are talking about😕



Its a traditional game which happens in villages during pongal festival.
it has been banned by peta saying that bulls are being injured and hurt. But its not what is happening in real.
and there is a reason behind this traditional game.its to save the native breeds.
ghsp2fan thumbnail
13th Anniversary Thumbnail Dazzler Thumbnail + 3
Posted: 8 years ago
#7
Guys, I have had doubts related to how Jallikattu can help with preservation of native breeds and why can't breeders raise these even without events like Jallikattu. I was curious and enquired many people who were supporting Jallikattu. The answers that I got like it helps with financing the bull were not convincing. The only convincing answer in favor of Jallikattu was that it must be held for cultural reasons which most of the people parroted. But none of them were able to point me out to the actual reasons why this was beneficial. The videos that I was pointed out to described in great detail the advantages of A2 milk and how the preservation of native breeds which have the gene for producing A2 milk is important but none of them addressed the important question - How does Jallikattu help in their preservation and what is in it for native breeders. After seeing Senapathy's replies in an interview and after talking to Raja Manickam, I have finally managed to convince myself that Jallikattu is not just important from a cultural point of view but is more important from a farmer's point of view as it helps in preservation of native breeds. Here is my summary of how it helps. It is a long read but it will help the majority of those youngsters who are seeking such answers themselves and would enable them to be in a better position to defend the practice.

A little bit of background is necessary before understanding this.

There are two types of beta-casein protein which are the dominant casein proteins in cow's milk: A1 and A2 protein. Initially all cows produced milk rich in A2 protein. But 5000 years back when migration started happening to Europe, a genetic mutation caused cattle taken to Europe to produce milk where both A1 and A2 protein were present in approximately equal amounts or where A1 protein dominated. Most of the breeds in Europe, US and Australia produce milk rich in A1 protein while native breeds in Asia and Africa produce milk rich in A2 protein. But after effects of colonization and artificial insemination caused these differences to disappear and interbreeding of cattle resulted in cows' milk in Asia and Africa to also have both proteins. But pure breeds (ones with A2 milk) still do exist in Asia and Africa.

Scientific research has established the differences in the way the human digestive system (and digestive enzymes) processes these two proteins. The digestive enzymes react to these proteins very differently. Based on these differences, many research articles have arrived at the conclusion (not established beyond reasonable doubt) that A1 milk protein could be the cause for various chronic diseases like type-1 diabetes and so on. There exists research to the contrary as well i.e. there is no correlation between A1 protein and chronic diseases. But the majoritarian view at the moment is that A2 milk is more beneficial than A1 milk. Here is a link to one such research paper (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3475924/).

There is one more important point to be made here. When we interbreed a bull and a cow (and if one or both of them were an offspring of a cow that produced milk rich in A1 protein) then the new offspring will also have this trait. It has been scientifically proven that the gene which causes cows to produce milk rich in A1 protein is a dominant gene and hence all offsprings will also have this trait.

In India there are 37 native breeds (there were 150 a century ago) and of these 36 have the A2 protein gene in them. The only breed Malvi (common in Maharashtra) has the gene for A1 protein. But this bull is mostly used for ploughing and cows bred with this bull are average milk producers and hence not a cause for major concern. That essentially means that all the 6 native breeds found in Tamilnadu have the A2 protein gene in them which makes it all the more important for us to preserve them.

Now before we address why Jallikattu helps in preserving native breed, let us understand what will happen if all these native breeds become extinct. We will then have to interbreed and rely heavily on artificial insemination. I have already mentioned the problems with inter breeding above. Artificial insemination is an expensive process and we rely on semen imported from countries like US, Australia, Denmark and New Zealand from Jersey bulls and other such breed known to have A1 protein as the dominant gene. This essentially means that our generation and future generation will then have to live with milk rich in A1 protein and also the associated problems like type1 - diabetes, autism and so on. The other disadvantage with artificial insemination is that the offspring will not be healthy as its genetic pool lacks the genes that are required for it to adapt to the climate and local changes which a native breed has in a higher proportion.

Now this brings into picture an MNC, A2 Milk Company with presence in US, Australia and New Zealand. This company holds patents for trivial things like genetically testing whether a cow has an A1 gene or A2 gene. But what is disturbing is the patent that they hold for artificial insemination of A2 gene bull's semen. They hold the patent for this method which causes A2 gene to become the dominant gene as opposed to A1 which happens naturally. It suppresses the dominant tendency of A1 gene. Now if all native breeds in India were destroyed then we may have to either make do with A1 milk or we may have to pay a hefty royalty to A2 Milk company for using its patented technique to produce cows rich in A2 gene. Now this is what is bothering most of these cattle breeders in TamilNadu. The question that is being raised is that when our breeds are perfectly capable of producing A2 milk, why must be force ourselves to be a slave to some other MNC company holding a patent for this. They also accuse this MNC of funding PETA which is unsubstantiated. But this organisation has been donating generously to PETA in US, Australia and New Zealand which is suspicious but doesn't establish that they are behind the protest in India.

Now let us address why Jallikattu helps in preserving our native breed (I got this information from Senapathy and Raja Manickam).

In TamilNadu, breeders rear bulls with the intention of showcasing them in Jallikattu. Most of the farmers can't afford to raise these bulls and are hence reliant on these breeders or on the common temple bull which is reared by the entire village rather than a single breeder. The bulls that fare well in the Jallikattu arena are in constant demand for servicing the cows. So we can think of Jallikattu as a marketplace for these bulls. Now this still doesn't answer as to why Jallikattu alone can help in this and why can't breeders breed these native bulls irrespective of whether Jallikattu happens or not.

To understand that we will have to understand the chronology of events that lead to Jallikattu and events that happen thereafter. Jallikattu is held during Pongal time (i.e. mid January), the strong bulls are identified and mated with cows. After this the farming season starts. After harvesting is done, this cycle starts again where the breeders showcase their bulls in Jallikattu events. People with a keen eye for this then make note of the strongest bulls and then seek them out later in what is known as a sandhai (marketplace) in Tamil

Now how does Jallikattu help in the process? The bulls used for mating need to be virile. During the mating season (which is typically after Pongal), these bulls need to be at the top of their game i.e. they must be secreting all the necessary male hormones, experience adrenaline rush and also a fast beating heart. This is where Jallikattu comes in picture. The time when the bull is released from the Vaadi Vaasal (the small narrow gate from which the bulls are released) and till the time it manages to reach the other end (if it is not subdued) causes it to experience a great adrenaline rush which then boosts it's testosterone levels and also keeps its heart beating at a rate faster than normal levels. This increases their virility and this is one of the most fundamental of all necessities for selective breeding. Can this be done without an activity like Jallikattu? Possibly but then the number of matings a bull can accomplish decreases significantly. Jallikattu helps in increasing this which is of utmost importance to a farmer's wellbeing. Also because artificial insemination is not adapted for native breeds, the banning of an event like Jallikattu will lead to these native breeds getting destroyed which would then force our hands to rely on artificial insemination the very process which the farmers shunned to begin with.

In places where events like Jallikattu are not held, the male calves (which are essentially useless unless there is demand for tasks like ploughing) are slaughtered. but in places where Jallikattu is held, these calves are held on to for the purpose of showcasing them and establishing their superiority.

Now that convinces me of the necessity for an event like Jalikattu. Now I can truly empathise with these farmers and their struggle to retain this cultural event.

Related Topics

Top

Stay Connected with IndiaForums!

Be the first to know about the latest news, updates, and exclusive content.

Add to Home Screen!

Install this web app on your iPhone for the best experience. It's easy, just tap and then "Add to Home Screen".