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Lily201

@Lily201

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Posted: 14 years ago

#31

Well as you mentioned she did not leave in position of "strength" -- she did mention in that letter of hers that when she started to wage battle against fate , she had full belief in Babaji and their bond of love ,she perceived that if she staid around him, teased him - he'd realise thats its a presence of a near and dear one - but that didn't happen

But neither did she leave due to a characteristic weakness in disposition (which recurred) 😃

Yes she decided to hold on to their bond till eternity in front of Daadi ,but then she hadn't known that her presence would be so jarring for Maan that it would be so impossible to tolerate - the conference room confrontation was the last straw, it was evident that not only he doubted her character but the care she bestowed so lovingly was so despised by him .

But she never backed out , everytime Maan left her bereft ,aggrieved she reminded herself that vow of Maan to never leave him for he was incomplete without her & was grateful that she stepped in his life(post marriage,in projector room)- like store room incident etc.

She adapted to his aloofness after party incident and never imposed herself on him like Daadi & Mr Tandon tried.

I am sure she'd have staid till the end had Maan in his bewildered,angered state hadn't been so venomous in his remarks - extreme he wouldn't normally reach.

In that letter to MSK she mentioned she couldn't bear his pain and for his sake will leave and that too without confronting personally beacuse - yes - she was broken hearted ,both because of her self respect and due to Maan inadvertently mocking at their marriage😔

She realised for their marriage - her holding on to the string that tied them wasn't enough if Maan wasn't willing, so gave a message of her leaving and went.

But she came back due to Daadi's illness even though her husband had more or less rejected her coz she truly cared for her family .

She was so kind hearted to Daadi when she was a mere secy during Outhouse track - that she wouldn't be so cold as to ignore Daadi's sentiments or be a bad bahu.

In the end everyone is a human with their own bearing levels ,but she longed for him to return even after being pained😳

She admitted in no less words that she was hurt even to Maan .

All I want to say is "insecurity" is not accurate reason - fear,pain,hurt is

I am really Sorry for my long posts😆

Edited by Lily201 - 14 years ago

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 14 years ago

#32

@Lily201: Please don't be sorry of all things! I love your long posts, they make for very interesting discussion.

One thing I want to be clear about is that I don't think Geet is weak in general. I find her an extremely strong character, ready to face all that life and Babaji throw at her and still manage to find love and happiness. In fact, I consider it an anomaly when she does succumb to her pain and decide to give up, which is why I felt the need to find an explanation for why, when she seems so strong most of the time, she seems to give up so easily on occasion.

If we think about the situation, we can see that she was actually making progress with Maan. He let her stay on in KC, he sort of indulged her when she was drunk and she even got him to do his (very hot!) smirk during the hangover-green tea thing. She was being so strong and everything was going so well, so why did she leave at the first real, angry confrontation they were bound to have?

This is the question that prompted me to make this post and this was the way I interpreted her reactions. I am sure, since the CVs leave things so open-ended 😉 there are many ways to look at the situation. You see her fear, pain hurt as the main cause of her leaving and I see the insecurity I outlined as the cause of this fear, pain and hurt.

Of course I don't hold this behaviour against her! She is so young and in a very difficult position. I just think there are some deep-seated issues deep-down that are yet to be solved.

Thanks for the great discussion!

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Lily201

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Posted: 14 years ago

#33

@Samana-- I should thank you for bearing with me and straining your eyes to read so much😆

I understood your point well ,I guess when things bubble up in my head I go all unrestrained to sort out the muddle

But if it contributed something worhwhile - then its okay 😃

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Charishma

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Posted: 14 years ago

#34

Wonderful post! 👏I agree with you. Geets repeatedly leaving Maan does bring about questions. I was thinking this today actually, and then I read your post...needless to say I got my answers. I had given it no more thought than, she is young (18 still😲), and also, what better way to create ongoing stories. Also, Maan ALWAYS goes after her. So I guess she doesn't really leave him, does she? She does it knowing full well that Maan will find her, and try to bring her back. Maan is right, Geet has so much 'nakhre'😆. Hell, he bought a company for her. He also practically gave up a company for her (Amritsar track he totally neglected his work).
I love the way you went into Geet's thoughts and her POV. We are quite a Maan-centric forum sometimes lol😳.

We often expect women to behave wonderfully and without any wrong, especially in shows, while simultaneously making multiple theories for the male characters. What I love about 4 Lions though, is that they take equal time to explain both characters. Sometimes they focus on Geet, and sometimes on Maan. The first 40 episodes was basically explaining these insecurities of Geet, don't you think? We as the audience, also have to do our part I guess. Can't expect them to connect every single dot for us...I love it though. Tired of being treated as a dumbass by Hindi serial makers. Geet is a show for people who like the subtleties and details.

But anyways 😃, I like your earlier point about how Maan reinforces these 'demigod' images of himself. I also think that they only hinder her growth as a person.

Gotta love MSK's style though😆. He tells her he will always be there, but he lives up to that promise. I think what I'm trying to say is the Geet Handa we used to know, the one who used to stand up for herself, and refused rides home with her boss (lol...loved it when she'd give him brush offs⭐️'he used to get soo '😡), is now Geet Khurana.
And now (well before ML) Maan feels it is sole purpose in life to make Geet's life easy for her. And Geet has gotten comfortable with that. Maan had indulged her ALOT. We see that now, with this HP Maan, how considerate and indulging Delhi Maan was. We thought Maan was an ass when Geet first came to Delhi, but we see now how much he favoured her.

And post marriage, well, all she had to do was voice a demand, and he would make it happen. Like bring a roadside food stations into the house, letting her drive the car (on a highway!! Maan, think boy!). He was sooo damn sweet. He was absolutely smitten😊.

What makes this relationship more complicated, is that although it is 50/50, Maan is the dominant one. Meaning that although they are partners in every way, Maan is very much an alpha, and Geet, well'she's the Alpha's mate. She's not quite at equal footing with him yet. She needs to participate in this relationship as actively as he does in order for the 2 of them to become an Alpha pair (where male and female both rule their domain together👏). So far she has let him take the brunt of hit, and he's been quite happy to actually. It was good for her confidence, and it showed us how much Maan loves Geet. But now its her turn.

Although I know although this comes from a good place, he needs to understand that she will only conquer these insecurities and her doubts by facing the world, not hiding behind his broad shoulders. Where before he encouraged her to stop crying and face the world, now he commands her to hide behind him, and that he will do everything that needs to be done. Hopefully, Maan post-ML will realize this. Because realistically, there will be times when Maan will be unable to come to her rescue (or won't remember her 😭...lol), and Geet will have to be strong, despite her insecurities about being unworthy, and rise to the occasion. Maan has slayed quite a few of her dragons. But some dragons, only Geet herself will be able to fight.

PS: Can I again say how much I loved your post?? <3

Also, it is a hard task indeed, for someone like Geet , to find her own identity, when she's standing alongside a man as formidable as Maan. I know some get annoyed with her b/c of her lack security in her relationship. But I mean, we know Maan will fall in love with her again. She doesn't know that. She honestly believes it was a fluke. Watch him love her again. Watch her run. And then watch her realize, that holy hell, MSK is bloody crazy for Geet. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

Edited by Charishma - 14 years ago

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mechantefille

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Posted: 14 years ago

#35

WOw I'm really glad you wrote this ya. Iloved reading every bit of it!! Muaah!

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 14 years ago

#36

@Charisma:

WOW! Thanks for that wonderful reply! Most of what you voiced about Maan and Geet's relationship is what I have been feeling for a while now, ever since they got married really. In the name of protecting her, he really restrains her agency. I never liked that he bought Beeji's house, it was like he didn't trust her to figure things out for herself. He indulged her in everything she wanted, but made sure he always had the control in the relationship, not intentionally of course, but in the name of protecting her and making her happy.

This is why I loved (ok I am really obsessed with) the brief period they spent in Dadaji's house in the village. In that scenario, I saw real potential for them to become the "alpha-couple" you mentioned. I loved that Maan was recognised as Geet's husband. For once, she got to be the big, strong saviour in the relationship and rescue him from the the situation they were in. He worried about his larger than life image falling apart, and how she wouldn't be able to handle it and she put his fears to rest, first by figuring out his problem without him having to tell her, and then by showing that she was emotionally stronger than he ever gave her credit for (I am referring to the Jul. 7th episode, undoubtedly my favourite episode ever!).

In accepting how much he needed her, and was how much he depended on from day-to-day, he really took a big step in equalising the relationship. As I mentioned somwhere has forgotten this, but she hasn't so it really is her chance to step up and show her strength and maturity. That is what is going to help her win her man!

I loved reading you reply and I am so glad you enjoyed the post!

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Cute_Ash

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Posted: 14 years ago

#37

Haha yh I rememba mentioning this in my take on Friday..I am glad you elaborated on tht more..this is wat I had written..

Once again geet is leaving, not sad this time bcoz I am tired of her leaving all the time..kinda being heartless na but yh she shuld have told him in da conference room rememba tht rajkumar story tht was ours and then she shuld have left the conf. room..She shuld ahve given back to him bcoz weeping i snot da solution all the time I don't think a woman lyk her can hear anyone insult her parents or husband..packing off and leaving is no solution if it was every married woman would have been sitting in her Maayka..

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Zaara

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Posted: 14 years ago

#38

great post, you need to replace the cvs and director of geet... that was the best character analysis... hats off to you... and yeah one more thing... i hope NO ONE BLAMES GEET for leaving... im sure many of you are woman here, so feel for her as woman... if geet is leaving the house to the mistake of hers, then i can say its unjustice... but the poor gal have been insulted again and again... and its nt by anyone else... see she been humiliated by many before... but she reacted only when maan insulted her.. thats because she loves him... he matter to her... he affect her... if u are geet, will u all keep quiet?? im annoyed at some people who feel geet is wrong and maan isnt... ill never keep quiet if my own hubby hurt me like that, knowingly or unknowingly... only those who been thru geet kind of pain, will understand her totally... but thank you for this post, i just loved your thought... matured thinking on your part... 🤗

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 14 years ago

#39

Originally posted by: Cute_Ash
Haha yh I rememba mentioning this in my take on Friday..I am glad you elaborated on tht more..this is wat I had written..

Once again geet is leaving, not sad this time bcoz I am tired of her leaving all the time..kinda being heartless na but yh she shuld have told him in da conference room rememba tht rajkumar story tht was ours and then she shuld have left the conf. room..She shuld ahve given back to him bcoz weeping i snot da solution all the time I don't think a woman lyk her can hear anyone insult her parents or husband..packing off and leaving is no solution if it was every married woman would have been sitting in her Maayka..

Agreed. I found it a bit hard to sympathise with, not only her decision to leave, but the way she chose to go about it. Whether MSK has ML or not, he behaved pretty unforgivably in the conference room, hurling insults at her family, her husband and her marriage. She had every right to tell him off, or at least try to tell him the truth before she decided to pack up and leave. But then I thought about it, while making this post, and reading all the reactions that came, that she is young, she doesn't really know much about steady relationships, only what she has learned from her experience with Maan and so her whole world revolves around him. In my opinion, she needs to learn that other relationships matter as well. This actually provides interesting space to for the character to grow and subsequently, an interesting direction for the story. Thanks for sharing your ideas!

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Samanalyse

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Posted: 14 years ago

#40

Originally posted by: zaara25
great post, you need to replace the cvs and director of geet... that was the best character analysis... hats off to you... and yeah one more thing... i hope NO ONE BLAMES GEET for leaving... im sure many of you are woman here, so feel for her as woman... if geet is leaving the house to the mistake of hers, then i can say its unjustice... but the poor gal have been insulted again and again... and its nt by anyone else... see she been humiliated by many before... but she reacted only when maan insulted her.. thats because she loves him... he matter to her... he affect her... if u are geet, will u all keep quiet?? im annoyed at some people who feel geet is wrong and maan isnt... ill never keep quiet if my own hubby hurt me like that, knowingly or unknowingly... only those who been thru geet kind of pain, will understand her totally... but thank you for this post, i just loved your thought... matured thinking on your part... 🤗

Thanks!

I had no problem with her leaving, especially given MSK's behaviour (which I thought was obnoxious, regardless of ML, but in character) but I just did not appreciate the manner in which she chose to leave. She didn't inform anybody except Maan of her decision, and she knows he doesn't really care in any case, so why would she not take the trouble to tell the people who are standing by her in this time of need, ie Daadi/Adi/Pinky? I would have loved if she didn't keep quiet, but she did, she just kept quiet and left, instead of confronting him which would maybe have taken more courage than she had at that point.

I hope the reassurance of Daadi's love, independent of her relationship with Maan and the knowledge that he does need her, no matter how much it seems otherwise, will give her the strength to stand up to him because it is ultimately her strength, visible through her ability to be cheerful, and take pleasure in small things, even in the bleakest of situations that attracted him to her in the first place!

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