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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Rati-

Firstly I never asked anyone to agree to me I was sharing my views given what I saw in today's episode.

I dint find her feel awful for the state this man is put into and that has me astounded and to be physically attracted in not at all abnormal rather its the most normal thing in opposite genders but here they are not just that but binded to each other as man and wife too. To me the visual presented just showed her being stirred more by proximity than by his plight alone.
Indeed it is interesting to see him win her back and same it could be more endearing to see her owe up her mistakes and apologize to him as he has been doing.
I don't expect Geet to move 'fastly' but as woman I expect her to reflect and regret. As to someone she loves, well I for one believe if the words and actions of a person we love hurts us so do ours to them as we can feel our grief its necessary or rather normal to feel and understand their anger, pain too and this is what Geet failed at and is still failing to see.

Geet is fainting, not eating well, hurting herself much more, for whom all this? 😕😆, Isn't clear to u that she already proved that she is crazy about Maan, but still she can easily let it go, coz in short, she has selfrespect and that is one of the reasons of why Maan loves this woman, to give in easily would make her out of the character, if u followed the show from begin you might would had understood Geet......
Didn't u see her that she always wish in her heart that Maan is safe, Geet can't deny the fact that she loves him alots, but she is human being as well and has feelings, she is hurt and what Maan did say is not easy to be forgiven, he has to go throught difficulity to win her back and that is what makes it much interesting to watch........
I don't feel Geet needs to regret, it's Maan who needs to feel regret at what he said, Geet didn't say any wrong to him, she is hurt, she needs time for all this to be forgotten......
The main problem from both side, both at fault, coz they lack communication, they need to sit and talk, otherwise such problem will keep on coming in their way, communication is very important in every relationship, they lack this and maybe in such level in their relationship they might understand it, infact I like how they r showing the growth in their relationship from a level to another level.....
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@ temorocks - I have a question. Actually this question is for all...because I clearly fail to understand this bit.

Why does Geet have such a big heart for the people she did not love much (Daarji who almost killed her and Dev who almost got her killed) so as to forgive them so easily and not such a big heart for Maan whom she loves and craves for? Why do always the loved ones have to stand the test of time? Why do the loved ones have to bear the brunt for rudeness? I have always heard that it is with the ones you love the most that you can show your anger the best. If they stand above everyone else, why do they have to suffer much more than the ones you don't love?

Also temorocks - regret is not always for something you do....it is also for somethings you don't do. Not to forgive sooner could be a regret, not to acknowledge undying love could be a regret, not being moved by your loved one's suffering could be a regret....If you agree both are at fault, then why not have Geet also repent coz clearly Maan is doing his part. So is it fair to say Geet needs to do the same now...coz both are at fault?
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: sksg

Very acute observation. I am totally with you on this.

Even I am very confused the way CVs are depicting Geet's character.

On one hand, she is shown to feel his presence in her heart even when she is unaware of him to be actually present there. Only when someone feels very deeply will they be able to perceive other's plight / presence through the heart that way.

On the other hand, she is depicted as heartless. A woman who is not moved by the plight of her husband. A woman who doesn't want to acknowledge even an iota of what she once felt for him, who is not moved at all by what he is reduced to do in order to get her back.

I am astounded by how the same person can be both moved and unmoved; loving and unfeeling; easy going and stubborn, all at the same time. The most bewildering thing of all is what did Dev do that earned him so much forgiveness and what did Maan not do that denies him the same forgiveness.

What I loved most today is the trust that Maan showed in Geet's love for him. I have never seen anyone do that before, especially when the person in question is denying that love.

While I was going through the discussions in this thread, someone said that Geet needs space and time to realize on her own. That got me thinking. What if this is real life. What if I am in her shoes. There is never enough space or time available in real life to sort out such issues. I was reminded of the song - "Its too late when you die to admit you didn't meet eye to eye...." That song was in the context of a father-son relationship where the son realizes how late it is to reconcile when his father passes away. Real life is like that. Sometimes by the time we get to realize the importance of some things in life, it will be too late and we will never get second chances. This is a fictional story and we know that CVs will get them together ultimately. So, it seems good to give her space and time because we know they will not part in the end. What if the CVs decide to create an accident and kill Maan, will then it be acceptable that she gets the space and time to realize her love for him and he is no longer there for her to express it by the time she realizes it. My point is not to want such a sequence, but to make an argument to show how what we feel and think seems justified when we know what the end result is going to be. Unfortunately, in real life, we never know the end result until it comes to pass. Perhaps, there in lies the difference. So, in real life, if I am in Geet's position and stubbornly spurn the love offered to me the way Maan did, then perhaps life may not grant me a second chance to get it back.

Geet, so far you showed me the strength of a woman in facing adverse situations and now you have taught me what not to do with the Ma(a)n in my life. Thank you for that !

Beautiful. Thankyou.
Real and fiction as I see here are used according to the need. If you agree fine but if you don't agree to a view either call it fiction and question tht topic makers emotions for wasting time on it or cry that in real life worse happens than its happening here.
Yes worse happens and that makes me shocked to see that the woman who on her own had seen no 'real' life for herself now has life knocking her door and she banging the door shut right on the face of life.
I find it hard to understand that a person you love his words affect you but not his pain, his anger affects you not his hurt. You are moved by apology of all the undeserving people in the world but the man who gave you the reason and streangth to move on and forgive you refuse that man his fair chance to voice himself.
This is not love, nor the hurt is wounded pride or self respect its seer stubborrness and refusing to see things beyond self.
Yes Geet now is indeed an example to show the 'don'ts' in a relationship.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#84

Originally posted by: Murlal



Rati, once again your analysis is spot on. The most troubling aspect of Geet has been her inability (or reluctance?) to reflect and regret.

Thank you so much.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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@temorocks: If maan's words were too harsh to forgive than I guess what Geet said today was really hurtful too!! But I guess maan knew she didn't mean them && he understands her more than she does, that's Y he chose to talk to her!! But whereas Geet didn't understand him && took his words seriously & walked out on him!! So, conclusion is Maan understands Geet more than she does!! He feels her pain more than she does!!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Rati-

Yes as Maan had cried to her in anger that he hates her but his eyes, tears & intensity had spoken only of love that it made her want to reach to him. She was moved, she has to but what shown the visual was more to do with proximity than pain for the state this grand man is brought down to. My pov.

you raised a valid point...i was really wondering since i had not watched the episode yet...
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: temorocks

Geet is fainting, not eating well, hurting herself much more, for whom all this? 😕😆, Isn't clear to u that she already proved that she is crazy about Maan, but still she can easily let it go, coz in short, she has selfrespect and that is one of the reasons of why Maan loves this woman, to give in easily would make her out of the character, if u followed the show from begin you might would had understood Geet......
Didn't u see her that she always wish in her heart that Maan is safe, Geet can't deny the fact that she loves him alots, but she is human being as well and has feelings, she is hurt and what Maan did say is not easy to be forgiven, he has to go throught difficulity to win her back and that is what makes it much interesting to watch........
I don't feel Geet needs to regret, it's Maan who needs to feel regret at what he said, Geet didn't say any wrong to him, she is hurt, she needs time for all this to be forgotten......
The main problem from both side, both at fault, coz they lack communication, they need to sit and talk, otherwise such problem will keep on coming in their way, communication is very important in every relationship, they lack this and maybe in such level in their relationship they might understand it, infact I like how they r showing the growth in their relationship from a level to another level.....

Geet is fainting to short up is suffering not for whom but the question here is for what. She is suffering in self pity, she is sad and hurt but all of it her own not Maan's. Maan after having reflected is sad and hurt for her, for having hurt her but she is only crying for her own pains. Yes she is crazy for him, so much that she dint care that she is moving away from him for forever. Losing him for forever. And this is not self respect its her ego alone that refuses her to see beyond her on grief as it made Maan for a fraction of a moment to refuse to understand her, he overcame it as his love was stronger than his 'self' and she is harping on it as she now is not reflecting her actions but his ewactions alone.

Well girl I have followed the show as you have so I am commenting on the show not you.

Its you who feels she need not regret but not all share your views right.
If words cannot taken back and healed nor can actions . Why blame reactions alone when it is the action that triggered it.
If Maan needs to apologize she owes him both an explanation and apologizes.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Dear Rati,
it's been fantastic interacting with you about our viiews and perspectives on the show. it is a pleasure to read views that are so in tune with mine- M and G style eh! No, I'm just joking! it is way past midnight here in the UK and I must go to bed, albeit reliuctantly, I am shattered,. I do hope we can carry on with this discussion, I'd love to know your views about the future episodes.
Who knows? a good dose of beeji and her two useless ladlas' bad behaviour along with poor Pammi's patient endurance of this bullying might yet jolt our beloved G to her senses and her muddled brain might(!!) start reflecting about things and she might yet learn sense.
Who knows, one lives in eternal hope. Good night everyone.
I assume you're in the US- enjoy the rest of the day.

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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: -Rati-

Wow. I am at loss of words having read you. Thank you for sharing your previous write up it is delight again to read such defined and clear views that are not biased or one sided.

Exactly as you pointed if I recall that one scene when Geet was feeling distressed and Maan asked her if she and their baby is okay. She replied I and my baby is fine. He was hurt as to him since she has been part of his life nothing is his alone. She realizes it late and when she apologizes he assures her that nothing from now on is about them as individual.
Something that he maintained but given her 'self' only state of lonliness faced for a small time she refuses to come out of that shell. She had blamed him and played the blood and self respect card saying how could he on his own forgive Dev without having talked to her. That was just her assumption though she knew this man who had himself jailed his brother for her sake and landfed his old grandmother on sick bed. But now she forgave Dev and only planned to inform him something that once was taken as crime on his part today was nothing but news to share for her.
Love being a selfless emotion there is no place for 'self' there but somewhere she refuses to let go of this self which she holds on to may be its a shadow of her past but letting this go will be her real moving on not the one that was to do with forgiving Dev

👏👏👏 Hats off to both of you.....I have been trying to post the exact same things for God knows how long, but have not been able to find the words....that would not make Geet look bad and Maan good....I have never been trying to bash Geet and praise Maan...but never been able to come up with the words to sound right.....
Your posts have been perfect....non-biased but exactly correct!!!! I have got to hand it to you both....thank you so much....😊
Hum to tum dono ke aur tum dono ke thoughts ke fan hogaye...😊
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: mrs.MSK_GurTi

Great observation!! I can't deny I liked the last part.....it was haawwtttt!! But on the same time I felt bad for maan!! I was shocked to hear those lines from geet!! "woh pyaar aansuon mein beh gaya jo aap hi ne diya tha" or some thing like that!! Those lines left me stunned!! But I'm glad ow maan understood her love && pain && didn't take those words seriously! Maan always understands her pain && what is she going through!! Today, when geet said those words, he would have left right away! But no, he knew she doesn't mean them && he felt her pain && love for him!! Whereas, Geet instead of feeling his pain && understanding him, took his words seriosuly && walked out on him!! That's not how relationships work!! Hope to see Geet realizing her mistake soon!!

Maan never takes words on face value alone. If he had done then they could not have been together ever. She had walked out on him time and again and everytime it was her inability to understand him and his unconditional love and trust in her.
The moment he reflected his words all he remembered is her hurt his own was immediately forgotten. He carries no grudge rather is trying hard to make her see.
Sad that when we mention the 'goods' he has done for her we are reminded that now they are in a relationship and hence these should not be counted but his 'bads' never go uncalculated. Sad indeed.

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