Originally posted by: -pixie-
Dolph- Who doesn't have flaws?
Yo buddy. I still have to read your conversation with other members but I thought I'll start with this first.
I am leaving aside Dadi and Dev's characters because I am not sure the CVs have sketched their characters with much thought so if they appear inconsistent- Thats a fault of poor writing more than anything else. But for Maan and Geet I will disagree that they have butchered their characters.
I did not say they butchered the characters. I think the changes brought about for them are less than agreeable for me. But I do think they butchered the beautiful story...not once but time and again.
Lets look at Maan first
We the fans are responsible for refusing to see any flaws in this character. I am as guilty of unconditionally loving MSK's character as any other female on this forum. But he has his flaws- Anger, possessiveness, stubbornness, selfishness, deep seated insecurities. We are the ones who brush them under the carpet- The CVs have always shown him with humanly flaws! Most of these flaws were amply on display while we were falling in love with MSK...maybe Love is blind :)
Flaws was never a problem dear. We are all flawed and we accept the partner with his/her flaws. So there we agree...MSK has flaws too and no one here would deny that.
About his being henpecked- He is still an established businessman who holds his own in a professional setting.
He is still established, true...but what has become of him after marriage? I still remember the scene where she drags him out of the office because he was working late. And how can we forget the way she shoed the London client over the phone. Any other man would have taken this to a different level. MSK just agrees to everything she does...EVERYTHING. Be is choosing Arjun as wedding planner, or be it letting her drive with zilch experience...or being it wanting to stay in same hotel room despite his dislikes. Tell me, why couldn't she just agree to change hotels merely on the basis that he doesn't like the hotel anymore? What's wrong with that? Why does it have to be a solid reason? As a person in a marriage, are you not supposed to give consideration to your partner's likes and dislikes?
I dont think he is henpecked- given their age difference in the show- I have always found Maan indulgent of Geet and her whims rather than the henpecked husband you make him out to be. His reaction, response- is more that of a parent trying to manaofy a rather petulant child.
Geet has become stubborn and that is quite evident. Ever since she got into the relationship, she has wanted things her way...and sadly has been granted every single of her wish. Some of the ridiculous one (according to me) are pointed out above. And I hold Maan solely responsible for it.
Go back and look at some of the scenes where you think he has given in to her and ergo- he is henpecked- and now look at them from this old and new person angle- maybe you may also feel the same.
Maybe you can point out some for me because honestly my mind in blank right now.
I know everyone seems to be miffed that MSK is willing to sacrifice his "I am Maan Singh Khurana" position and go after Geet when in our opinion Geet is the guilty party who brought his wrath onto her. I will just say this again- we are projecting our sensibilities onto a character who has never seen Dev as a sexual predator but rather someone who betrayed her trust. It is with the latter position that she has chosen to forgive him and move on.
Frankly, I really don't care if she forgave Dev or she held him against her for life. That is the least of my concerns. I hold Geet responsible for leaving the house without trying to work out with him. Which couple don't go through fights? Who doesn't have problems in life? Does this mean everyone should leave because they were blamed?
It was Maan's impatience and anger that prevented him from staying back and listening to what Geet had to say on the Holi morning. If he had stayed back and listened to what she had to say- the situation would not have even errupted the way it did.
I absolutely don't deny this. I never called Maan flawless or God...but he is more humane than Geet...accepting his mistakes much earlier than Geet who doesn't seem to reflect even once that maybe...just maybe she was wrong in leave a home....in breaking a home. I have had my share of Maan hatred too...specially post marriage when he would not let Geet know why he is keeping away. And I filled the GEET FB page with posts requesting for a formal apology from him. But the way CVs dig, at confrontation they turn the seesaw on the other side...and it was shown that Maan was Mahaan and Geet was silly in questioning him. I still don't approve of that bit.
Coming to Geet
She is guilty of some of the charges you lay at her door but again I dont think we can single handedly blame her for the entire fiasco.
What's the fiasco? It may be different to you and to me. To me, leaving her home was blowing the situation out of proportion when they could have sorted things out in the same house. If the fiasco includes Maan's anger...sure we all know he gets the worst of him out when he is angry..and he is just paying a heavy price for it.
She has her flaws too- she is also short tempered, impulsive, nagging and somewhat possessive. I dont know anyone who would go out of their way to irritate and irk their partner unless they intended to give offense..so some of Geet's actions do confound me.
I may be in the minority here when I say this- but I dont think that the woman needs to look upto her partner for everything- she is an independent human being who is very much capable of making decisions for herself.and Yes, I am married. So the decision to forgive Dev was very much her own- she did try to tell Maan everything.
I do not deny that. I kinda agree it was her decision...but somewhere, at times when you are making such huge decisions, you need to discuss. You may not accept other's opinions, but I believe your partner should never be kept in the dark. Again, I have not seen those episodes so I don't know the turn of events. But this was never a question for me.
Maan's hatred of Dev- If I go back to Oct, when Maan finds out that Dev was the perpetrartor his first reaction was disbelief (My brother cannot do this)..Dev had to come in and confess before Maan actually believed what she was trying to tell him. Thereafter, he stood by Geet and saw to it that Dev and NT were arrested. However, the very next morning he did bail them out at Dadi's behest- without telling Geet anything!!
He did not get a chance to do that. The moment he started talking, or rather she started talking, he got pulled into the BoD meeting which is no small thing. I'm sure he never expected Geet to cook such stuff as to he wanted to marry her so they could withdraw the case. That was her half baked knowledge and as they say, incomplete knowledge is more dangerous than no knowledge.
She reacted to that piece of information very publically which led to Maan throwing Geet out of his life.
It was she who threw him out of his life. She said that she will not marry him....that too in front of the staff...in front of the BoD....in front of those people with whom he was fighting for her. Sure Maan was responsible for dragging a lady out of his office in front of so many people, I hated him for that. But I could not get Maan's insult out of my mind either.
They both of separated for a few weeks and during which Maan's behaviour was downright boorish. Now why he could not leave Geet alone at that time- your guess is as good as mine :). Finally when realization dawned as to what he was doing- he chose to walk away from the relationship. His words were to the effect that he is so closely interlinked to Dev that Maan's mere presence will keep reminding Geet of her traumatic past- she was the one who eventually fought for Maaneet and to keep them together.
I completely agree. My views are not different here....
Now the situation is actually reversed- he has reacted to incomplete information publicly and now Geet has chosen to leave and walk out of his life. He is the one who is fighting for the relationship as realization dawned for him first that he may have spoken to harshly. Now whether he goes to woo her as a loverboy (current avatar) or as a stalker (ala IP)- I dont see much of a difference.
There is a BIG difference here:
IP track - Geet reacts to half baked truth and walks out.
Current - Maan reacts to half baked truth and still Geet walks out. My only problem is...WHY the hell does she have to walk out? Was she tortured? Was she forced? Does she love someone else? I mean WHY??? This WHY is what I cannot understand.
The only thing that is missing is Geet's realization- which I think will come in due time. We have only seen Maan's side of the anguish and only witnessed Geet crying- nothing on what is her frame of mind or what is she exactly thinking. So right now whatever we are holding her guilty of- is based purely on conjecture!
I'm so sure the CVs will turn the table such that no apology will be needed by Geet...just the way they let Maan go scot free after Geet came to know the entire truth post marriage.
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This has become a really loooong post ...😆..but I just want to say that anger, selfishness, ego are as much human flaws- and women have them in as much abundance as men. So my only question is why do we want to see perfect people on screen.
No one is perfect. But I would like to see a balanced relationship. And they lack balance BIG time.
So what if she chose to walk away on something you may view as trivial (and I still feel she should have smashed all his cars before she left if not throw him out)?
Just curious, what caused you to have such a view? Genuine question...
Neither of them is perfect- so why this debate on who is right and who is wrong. They both made mistakes...but I can honestly empathise with both of them if I put myself in their shoes!😕
My reply has been a long one too....And I responded without reading the comments from other members here...because I wanted to take the time to respond to you with my thoughts....Sorry for the long reply too 😆
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