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Kankshita

@thegameison

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Posted: 10 years ago

#611

Originally posted by: gsk4
you may have created swayam in a different way but then the magic of swaron is lost. this is what i feel.

Hello,

Do you understand what a writer does? Do you, also, by any chance, know what a fan fiction is? Lemme help you out. See, one, a writer does whatever the hell he or she wants with his or her story, if you don't like what she's writing, I suggest you find something else to read. I am sure the essence you're looking for will be there in plenty other fan fictions here. Two, a fan fiction is a writer's take on the characters that are originally written by somebody else. Swayum in the show is not Nivriti's creation but in this story, he is. And again, she can do whatever the hell she wants with her character.

Also, the magic of SwaRon as you put it was lost the moment the couple in your display picture became SwaRon. Bu that's my opinion, probably even Nivriti's. Do you see us complaining about that? ☺️

Bye,
thegameison

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gsk4

@gsk4

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Posted: 10 years ago

#612

Originally posted by: thegameison

Hello,

Do you understand what a writer does? Do you, also, by any chance, know what a fan fiction is? Lemme help you out. See, one, a writer does whatever the hell he or she wants with his or her story, if you don't like what she's writing, I suggest you find something else to read. I am sure the essence you're looking for will be there in plenty other fan fictions here. Two, a fan fiction is a writer's take on the characters that are originally written by somebody else. Swayum in the show is not Nivriti's creation but in this story, he is. And again, she can do whatever the hell she wants with her character.

Also, the magic of SwaRon as you put it was lost the moment the couple in your display picture became SwaRon. Bu that's my opinion, probably even Nivriti's. Do you see us complaining about that? ☺️

Bye,
thegameison

Wow !! Did you properly read my criticism or the answer Nivriti's gave me. This is not a bashing competition betwwen Teenagers. "Do you know what a writer means?" A country which produces Booker prize novelists you are askng me what a writer does? Pathetic. Grow up. I am much older and experienced than you to simply comment on Nivritis work
Let me give expplanation to your points.
1) "a writer does whatever the hell he or she wants with his or her story," If its Nivriti's own creation she can write anything she wants, that means a writer can write anything she wants to her own creation. But unfortunately this is not her creation. She is basing her story on a well established Character and a well known show by Palki maam, Where she has limitations. If she does not then people will comment. She has to be ready to receive positive and negative comments.
2) "a fan fiction is a writer's take on the characters that are originally written by somebody else." Yes it is.The key word is written by somebody else. Not hers.you have answered you own question. As a true writer there are limitations when you write a fan fiction. you have an obligation to remain true to the character. that is why you are afan of the character.
3) "she can do whatever the hell she wants with her character" Then she should be open to receive criticisms and suggestions and Its not "her" character. Swayam is created by D3 show
4) My Display Picture of Swaron. I have no clue what you are talking about, since i didnt go there in my criticisms its better i dont open that can of worms. Very immature just looking at what my dp and commenting on it. I can put a pic of sneha or vrushika. that is my choice. If you search the net on social media like Facebook and Twitter you will know the answer to that Dp question of yours. Who has more fan following who gets invited as a couple and who is the swaron couple. Very Important fact i didnt publish a FF under D3 for you to commend. Using of word "hell" again and again in your write up shows that you are swearing at me. wah!!
If you publish your work on the Website for the entire world to read, then you are no one to tell me what to read what not to read. And its my born right to commend on it. If you are scared of little criticism then dont publish for others to see. I did not bring this to this level you did thegameison. Peolple improve from ciriticisms, you should always have someone to critisice your work so you can do a better work next time. Its not to bring anyone down i have commented on this FF. I had some issues which i have put it up for nivriti to answer and she did. So what is your problem??

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Kankshita

@thegameison

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Posted: 10 years ago

#613

I'd have all the time in the world and still not bother to write you a long-ass reply to your simply ass remarks. Nivriti is my friend, a. Freedom of speech works both ways, b. The older and maturer way is to shut up about what you don't like, there's plenty to appreciate, both here and elsewhere, c.Also, do not tell her what she is obliged to do, I am answering on her behalf, she's not obliged to conform, none of us is, we're writers, for crying out loud, d.

What is this place? 😳

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gsk4

@gsk4

Explorer

Posted: 10 years ago

#614

Then why bother with a reply again using BAD LANGUAGE "long-ass" & "ass" "shut up". WOW!! Nivriti I am proud that you have such LOYAL friends. You do know that this is a public web site. This shows your character not mine & bashing me up on again on your FF. He has no clue of maturity keeps on calling me names and swearing at me in public.Thegameison has claimed that he is replying on your behalf. So then you are responsible for every word he utters. Freedom of Speeh works both the ways. I too am entitled for for an opinion.It was a small matter but dragged on by you dear darling friend who doesnt know when to keep quiet. Its like my "choclate is better than yours because i said so". Who are you🤔??? Where is it said that we are only suppose to say Wah wah always.And no true friend would openly drag her name up with so much publicity. Nivriti if you have a problem talk to me directly do not send your puppet. I dont owe any explanation to him or anyone.

I just finished reading your OS publications SwaRon OS - It All Ends With Cold Coffee

Is this written by the same person who is bashing me up in bad language. no way. Definitly someone else has written it. The use of language,words, grammar everything is too different styles.You still havent got what my criticism was about. I have never told her that she wrote badly or she shouldnt write. but what does it matter? you dont care for you friend or you wouldnt done this.

As i dont have any problem in answering your so called "cute write ups" bring it on,I shall keep on enlightening you.By the way good show on "The older and maturer way is to shut up about what you don't like 😕". Since it proved how matured you are. ha ha ha. God. some people dont know when to quit.

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Kankshita

@thegameison

Stunner

+ 4

Posted: 10 years ago

#615

I am a woman, not a man, therefore, cut the he. Now, I am a writer and the OS you mentioned was written by me a couple of years ago or so. I write fancy words, doesn't mean I have to communicate pretentiously too, doesn't mean I don't or shouldn't swear. And if I swear, doesn't mean you'll assume I am a man.

There is a marked difference between constructive criticism and bashing. The first words you used to describe this fiction were 'the most boring fan fiction I ever read' or something on those lines. I have said worse about, say, Chetan Bhagat and Stephanie Meyer, the reader has as much right of involvement in the character's being as the writer does. So, if you don't like this story's Swayum, sure, you don't like him. We get it. But what you keep forgetting is that you cannot influence what the writer writes. There, you cannot and will have no influence. If you want people such as myself to not swear, talk like we're civil, you might start by making a better choice of words yourself. For, I don't read this fiction myself and I have no right to argue with you upon its plot or story or whatever. I merely come here to support my friend who has hitherto been a silent reader of our bickering, for some odd reason I cannot point out for you.

But I will say this, I have been writing for six years and at times people don't understand what I want to say, at yet other times, the feedback seems like a chocolate-coated slap across my face because its inadequacy is insulting. There's all sorts of readers and there's all sorts of writers, I have accepted that because, at the end of the day, our existences are codependent. If you find my candor uncouth, or my wish to help out a friend, unnecessary, I cannot help you. However, I will go from here before this thread is locked down or before you hurl one more judgment at me, because I can be more judgmental than is it okay to be and then this fanciness I have painted for you will leave and this will drag on. I know we both have it in us.

My final words here would still be those I meant to imply at the beginning. You might benefit in leaving here and reading other works, much better suited to your taste. I'm certain you come here, not to dampen your mood by arguing with people with abrasive tongues who won't stop but to enjoy your time and explore what this site has to offer.

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Nivriti

@agreatperhaps

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#616

Okay. Now this matter has really gone to far. I tried to keep silent about it and avoid a battle ground, but I believe that was my biggest mistake.

I understand the fact that you don't like the way the characters play out in the fiction, and seriously, I don't think that is something to apologize. I have read my pieces, where I don't like the kind of story, but others love it, so I refrain from commenting. And that is not to keep a golden picture of myself, but because as a writer I know what goes into writing.

Also, as thegameison, who is a very dear friend, pointed out, criticism is welcomed to the point it is constructive, and helps me understand your grouse. I cannot for the life of me fathom, why you think changing the characteristics of a character makes me a lesser writer. I could have stomached if you said you did not like my story (which you clearly don't) , or that my writing is confusing, but the fact you are trying to limit my freedom space, is something I dun understand.

I have personally come across so many fictions where the characters only have the name and their personality differs like sun and stars. What irks me is the fact you are trying to say that just because I changed the way Swayam is, you think I am doing injustice to all of the characters. Also, it is my call who gets what screen space in my fiction, and really, you cannot comment on it.

I dunno if you write or not, and it is not really necessary to know how to write to comment on a fiction, but I really hope you empathize with the amount of efforts that goes in. I told you before, I will take criticism in it's true and healthy spirit, but what has amounted here is clear bashing of my writing and my characters. And really, by publicly not writing the stuff that you PMed me, does not make it less.

If you look forward to mush and romance between the two, I say, please read some other fiction. Also, please read up the introduction of my fiction, which I have not touched, and it clearly says, "I wanted to do my own justice to him and his character, and build up a new image of him. I hope I succeed in it." him as in Swayam.

I have always, and always refrained myself from writing mush, and there have been some times I have wrote it, but never liked so much so. So please, if you look out for that, I would have to politely let you go from here. This is my writing style and my way of imagining the characters, and I shall not change it.

Let's hope this is the end of this.

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Nivriti

@agreatperhaps

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#617

P.S : I am sorry if you find this rude, you clearly had no business commenting on how thegameison writes, and how she comments. A writer does not always resort to flowery words otherwise. I found that pretty much insulting. She is a beautiful and mature writer, so please, do not comment upon her, and her character over here, and also how YOU believe that her works have been written by somebody else. If you continue this, and someone else gets a whiff of this, this really can become nasty. She is a writer much loved.

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Nivriti

@agreatperhaps

Rocker

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Posted: 10 years ago

#618

A u t h o r ' s N o t e

Hey,

This thread would be closed, as the fiction has been shifted to the FF corner.

Here is the link.

Hope to see you there,

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annihilation

@annihilation

Stunner

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Posted: 10 years ago

#619

I don't have a business here because I don't read fanfictions generally, atleast not on IF and even if I do, I read if they're written by friends.

To whomsoever it may concern, please do understand that what a writer does with her own story is her business alone and he/she by any means is not obligated to remain true to the original story/show from where the characters have been based upon. That is the very reasons, amateur writers first credit the author/creator on whose book/show the fanfiction is based on.

Once that is done, how the story or characters are dealt with is entirely the writers business and nobody else's. The writer isn't obliged to please you or displease you, his/her job is to only write and offer her work up for publication which in turn fetches them feedback.

If one does not like a certain piece of work, you're free to leave your two cents in a respectful manner and if you feel the need to criticise then by all means you can but not in an destructive manner. That's one of the basic rules of ethics and should ideally be practised as and when possible. Taking digs at other writers (thegameison in this case), questioning her own set of works, preaching maturity when not practised by self clearly does not reflect an appropriate conduct to me atleast. If the usage of the word 'hell' is considered a profanity then so is name-calling.

Before I verbally get lashed out on, let me clear one thing, I have said whatever I did because I understand what goes into writing and the amount of effort one has to put in to produce a good piece of writing and also because these people are able to write because they're talented, obviously. I personally do not believe in dissing someone's work or their credibility.

Niv and K, you both are brilliant at writing and you do your job well. Criticism of any kind is bound to come your away, try not to let it affect you negatively and just take it in your stride. Rest should be well. Peace!

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gsk4

@gsk4

Explorer

Posted: 10 years ago

#620

Originally posted by: NocturnalBeing
Okay. Now this matter has really gone to far. I tried to keep silent about it and avoid a battle ground, but I believe that was my biggest mistake.

I understand the fact that you don't like the way the characters play out in the fiction, and seriously, I don't think that is something to apologize. I have read my pieces, where I don't like the kind of story, but others love it, so I refrain from commenting. And that is not to keep a golden picture of myself, but because as a writer I know what goes into writing.

Also, as thegameison, who is a very dear friend, pointed out, criticism is welcomed to the point it is constructive, and helps me understand your grouse. I cannot for the life of me fathom, why you think changing the characteristics of a character makes me a lesser writer. I could have stomached if you said you did not like my story (which you clearly don't) , or that my writing is confusing, but the fact you are trying to limit my freedom space, is something I dun understand.

I have personally come across so many fictions where the characters only have the name and their personality differs like sun and stars. What irks me is the fact you are trying to say that just because I changed the way Swayam is, you think I am doing injustice to all of the characters. Also, it is my call who gets what screen space in my fiction, and really, you cannot comment on it.

I dunno if you write or not, and it is not really necessary to know how to write to comment on a fiction, but I really hope you empathize with the amount of efforts that goes in. I told you before, I will take criticism in it's true and healthy spirit, but what has amounted here is clear bashing of my writing and my characters. And really, by publicly not writing the stuff that you PMed me, does not make it less.

If you look forward to mush and romance between the two, I say, please read some other fiction. Also, please read up the introduction of my fiction, which I have not touched, and it clearly says, "I wanted to do my own justice to him and his character, and build up a new image of him. I hope I succeed in it." him as in Swayam.

I have always, and always refrained myself from writing mush, and there have been some times I have wrote it, but never liked so much so. So please, if you look out for that, I would have to politely let you go from here. This is my writing style and my way of imagining the characters, and I shall not change it.

Let's hope this is the end of this.
N.

First and formost Nivriiti Iam not the one who dragged this far its your friend thegameison.Second of all in case you havent noticed i have only criticised your work the first time and you have answered me back. Baat Khatham. the later on bash ups started by your friend which you could have easily stopped was never about your work. It was mostly how rudly she was cursing and used bad language againt me. Not once I have criticised your work. I have Just answered the very rude thegameison in her own coin to make her realise that this not the way to do it. I have never ever said that you havent put in hard work or that you are a bad writer that you should write the way i want to. and i just went to your index and you have edited your index after my comments. the date is visible for me to see. Second i respect your thoughts. but would you take one min to go bacck ans read what you wrote to me first and now what are you telling me are poles apart.

"I respect your views, and when I say criticism is welcomed, I mean it. And I am actually glad that somebody has criticised my work because it connects me more to my readers, and brings me down.

But, I just want to make one thing clear, this is not a SwaRon FF, this is a clear Dil Dosti Dance Fan Fiction, and maybe being it a mutlifandom is confusing, but you have to respect that it cannot be only based on Swayam and Sharon for that matter. I accept that grouse that people from other shows are there and it makes you lose connect, but it's imperative that you understand others have the space too.

I can try to limit the characters from other shows, but I cannot compromise with the space shared by other fellow D3 characters. I had made it clear before as well.

Anyhow, thanks for reading, and thanks for dropping your valuable view. I shall alter the way I have promised, and made clear."

Now you are giving some other explanation to which angle i have not even thought about. Nivriti i just read your FF in one night and wrote remarks on it and you have replied. Thats it. Nothing more to it. No disrespect was ever expressed in my writings or called anyone names either.Just because i didnt like certain things and mentioned it does not mean your efforts are not appreciated or you are a bad writer and that you havent worked hard for it. Where do you both get these ideas that i am trying to hurt you or are you trying read in between lines? very simple matter compliated to the core. Streched like a chewing gum. I am very hurt now. Lets just end it here.

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