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Posted: 13 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: ninand

Its not his rudeness or caustic remarks right now or anything.. I simply cannot believe how easily he believed her to be deceitful and threw her out.. or how he used to get jealous and be mean to her , for no apparent fault of hers. In fact she did everything to the contrary, stating explicitly what he meant to her.






i hope you don't mind me barging in! :$

@bold, no one in their right mind would ever think that their own mother wants to cause them harm, fareeda is a set apart from what i classify as a mother. I have never known of a mother who would destroy her own child's happy world, just for the sake of her ego and class. its quite disgusting, women like her don't deserve to be called mother, asher being an obedient and loving son would never think his mother would cause fire to his home but she did. & @red bold - in the book asher is suppose to be alot older than khirad 8 -9 years difference, a man is bound to get insecure when he feels his wife is much younger and could probably have any man she desired, Its his love that brought his jealousy and insecurities, he feared that he might loose her. Whilst in the show i can see you can't notice a age difference looks wise, but you can see the innocence in khirad through her words and gestures.

i just wanted to explain asher, its okay that you hate him or find his character to be weak but you have to see sometimes, life is like that. its tragic, but real life
is completely like that, a mans ego will become him worst enemy sooner or later.


@6thElement - i'm editing my post in a while or so :) sorry for the long wait.
Edited by InvisibleSmile - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#52

Originally posted by: ninand

fortunately or unfortunately this is the only place to discuss the show Hasini.. so forgive me , just wanted to talk about my total disillusionment with the show.


I watched the last episode, and seriously .. it only strengthens my opinion that the fall out between the two was simply a ploy by the author to indulge herself into making a heroine like that. Khirad is my absolute favorite no doubt bout it,. but the author should have tried to come up with a genuine misunderstanding, or should have gone completely dramatic for a sustained effect.

This characterization of Ashar is so weak, so disappointing, it feel unfair that Khirad had to suffer so much , because of someone who comes out as an arrogant fool at best.

Its not his rudeness or caustic remarks right now or anything.. I simply cannot believe how easily he believed her to be deceitful and threw her out.. or how he used to get jealous and be mean to her , for no apparent fault of hers. In fact she did everything to the contrary, stating explicitly what he meant to her.

The author made so deliberate an attempt to infuse pain ,without reason, that it only feels tiresome and annoying.
Ashar comes out as a selfish , petty man with surface depth, and how absolutely demoralizing to know Khirad will go back to him.


And this means I will read this FF for Khirad, and for your Ashar.

I apologize again.. this is not meant to deter other viewers😆., I simply had to discuss with people who watch the show and this thread is the only place for it. Thanks Hasini🤗



Oh! Well, this is also the reason for starting the thread, so that people can discuss and cuss ;)

I believe its not the author so much as it's the creatives. Apparently I found out from Invisible.Smile that there are details and nuances in the book that are not being adapted into the show and we can only hope at the moment that they will at least tie the loose end towards the end.

I would agree that Ashar should have enquired into the matter after she left. But I was told in the book, he doesn't want to take her calls because he fears she would ask for a divorce; which again to me is not much to go by to not reach out to her and instead choose to stay in anguish.

You know, this is exactly the reason I want to get my hands on the book...

You don't have to restrain yourself from expressing here...I will try my best to keep the discussion going.
Happy New Year Gurl!

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Posted: 13 years ago
#53
I might be away for a bit...Writing the next update :)
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Posted: 13 years ago
#54

Originally posted by: InvisibleSmile


i hope you don't mind me barging in! :$

@bold, no one is their right mind would ever think that their own mother wants to cause them harm, fareeda is a set apart from what i classify as a mother. I have never known of a mother who would destroy her own child's happy world, just for the sake of her ego and class. its quite disgusting, women like her don't deserve to be called mother, asher being an obedient and loving son would never think his mother would cause fire to his home but she did. & @red bold - in the book asher is suppose to be alot older than khirad 8 -9 years difference, a man is bound to get insecure when he feels his wife is much younger and could probably have any man she desired, Its his love that brought his jealousy and insecurities, he feared that he might loose her. Whilst in the show i can see you can't notice a age difference looks wise, but you can see the innocence in khirad through her words and gestures.

i just wanted to explain asher, its okay that you hate him or find his character to be weak but you have to see sometimes, life is like that. its tragic, but real life
is completely like that, a mans ego will become him worst enemy sooner or later.


@6thElement - i'm editing my post in a while or so :) sorry for the long wait.



Call me Hasini...

I think in general Ashar has been cast as a unsuspecting person. I would have liked him to be a little more investigative...
Because insecure men, in real life turn out to be a lot more inquisitive...Don't you think? An insecure man, would have either needed a confrontation or would have at least secretly indulged in finding out about the other man. They live in comparison and have brittle egos. So if we call Ashar insecure, then he doesn't fit the mold entirely either... That's only my take. What say?

You know what draws me to a man, someone who pursues his love...goes that extra mile. So that is a turn off as of now and I really hope they recover his character in the show. Fingers crossed.


Edited by 6thElement - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#55

Originally posted by: 6thElement

I might be away for a bit...Writing the next update :)


My four favourite words ;)

Those who watch the show, what happened to Sara?
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Posted: 13 years ago
#56
@invisibleSmile-- I understand your point completely. I forgot to mention in my comment that apart from the author it might e the scriptwriter. :)

So my comments are really about the show , not the book.

Again, the problem with showing Ashar the way they have is, I don't hate him. I simply pity him. That's where they made an error I s'ppose. He comes out amazingly dispassionate, almost like he wanted something like this to happen, like if it was a nudge needed to push the relationship over the cliff, he'd do that , just to be miserable.

I agree, in fact , in the initial episodes I thought they rushed things a lot.

As to showing reality, that is again where they come up short. People are way weaker , and insecure yes, but here , Ashar feels like two different people.
The one who accepted Khirad, and wanted to make the relationship work, was different. And the one who started feeling jealous for no reason, entirely different. And so one feels entirely confused with this Ashar.
It must be the scriptwriter then, I dunno. :) Its just that that tiny glitch, and I just cant get over it. entirely my problem ;).. would love to hear from the other(your) side too, so will keep checking out here with upcoming episodes .:)
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Posted: 13 years ago
#57

Originally posted by: .Stuff.


My four favourite words ;)

Those who watch the show, what happened to Sara?



:)

She is around alright, waiting for Fareeda (Ashar;s mother) to help her out. The part I'm wondering about is how come she never made a open pass at him for four and half years?

She reminds me of leeches...the ones who never give back anything in a friendship, but only take the life out of the so called friend.
Edited by 6thElement - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#58

Originally posted by: 6thElement




Call me Hasini...

I think in general Ashar has been cast as a unsuspecting person. I would have liked him to be a little more investigative...
Because insecure men, in real life turn out to be a lot more inquisitive...Don't you think? An insecure man, would have either needed a confrontation or would have at least secretly indulged in finding out about the other man. They live in comparison and have brittle egos. So if we call Ashar insecure, then he doesn't fit the mold entirely either... That's only my take. What say?

You know what draws me to a man, someone who pursues his love...goes that extra mile. So that is a turn off as of now and I really hope they recover his character in the show. Fingers crossed.



That's quite where I am at too. I don't understand him. There was aggression when he disliked Khizr, but that went for a toss overnight. Only simmering resentment remained.

then the man who so beautifully worked on their marriage, turns unapproachable and cold in a second.. all because he Khizr praises his wife in front of him and he overheard his mother praise their friendship!

Agree with you completely. Its a massive turn off.
Edited by ninand - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#59
Thanks to all those who have been commenting on the update itself. I know its in the initial stages but we will work through some details this week :)

It means a lot to hear your feedback and I'm so glad you are loving Khirad so far. It was bound to be, when I haven't changed a thing about her ;)
Edited by 6thElement - 13 years ago
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Posted: 13 years ago
#60

Originally posted by: 6thElement



Call me Hasini...

I think in general Ashar has been cast as a unsuspecting person. I would have liked him to be a little more investigative...
Because insecure men, in real life turn out to be a lot more inquisitive...Don't you think? An insecure man, would have either needed a confrontation or would have at least secretly indulged in finding out about the other man. They live in comparison and have brittle egos. So if we call Ashar insecure, then he doesn't fit the mold entirely either... That's only my take. What say?

You know what draws me to a man, someone who pursues his love...goes that extra mile. So that is a turn off as of now and I really hope they recover his character in the show. Fingers crossed.




the thing is, this show is so close to real life. In real a person would always believe their mother over their wife. its true, hard but simple truth. No one can even imagine their own mother would destroy their home, and asher is no different, his blind faith in his mother is because for the simple reason, she is his mother. i remember correctly a dialouge that asher shared after finding out the truth '' jis aag mein main jal raha tha woh meri maa ki lagayi huyi thii'' the pain and shattering, he goes through is almost worth pitying.

& no not men from the culture we belong too, ego prevails all. Its simple, a man's ego will cause the end of him and it does eventually. Ofcourse unless they have grown up with the modern thoughts of today like you and me. I say this because the actor playing asher himself said, what happened in the show can happen in real - and the man wouldn't give two cents about his wife, if he had to choose between mother and wife.

since i have read the book, i will honestly say khirad is the character whom i adore more than anyone else, her persistence, courage, strength everything abt her i adore, but i can't hate asher, the only thing i feel for him is pity - to have it all and lost it all.

btw, m'shiza :) nice to meet you hasini.

Edited by InvisibleSmile - 13 years ago

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