FF: New York times with Maan&Geet Thread 4 09/13 - Page 64

Read a couple of comments here and there and realised that Dev's sexuality has become a bone of contention here!

Well, I agree with Hasini's stance. For starters, Dev was an Indian and that fact stays-you can't really taje out the societal pressures from an Indian even if he moves to some place outside India. Well, thats how I think it is based on looking at my extended family who lives outside India though I have no empirical evidence to support my claim, and also, i guess that somewhere Dev's Mom was mentioned too, so, if I am not wrong, family pressure held too!

Moreover, though the other countries are liberal about sexuality several times over as compared to India, the truth of the matter is that they are still not liberal enough to make people from countries like India be comfortable coming out of the closet, particularly because despite not living in India, most Indians maintain primarily Indian circles and hence, the same connect!

As I would like to guess, the pressure in such cases to gain is immense...the pressure of being left alone-that is to be socially acceptable(in most cases by getting married like a usual guy would), and I think he did the same. His attempt to wash his hands off any social stigma did turn out to be horribly bad for Geet and to some extent for Naini, and there is no denying this fact.

I am completely satisfied with the closure provided!

Love

Swati

Originally posted by: -shabnoor-

Just ended up reading NY times Per Se part 3... and ermm I'm at loss of words !

Why so you may feel...well part of it is due to the blow that I received of Dev being a gay...alright I do not have a problem if that guy is a gay..but what irked me was how the hell could he cheat on an innocent 18 year old girl ?? So much so that she felt that it was due to her that the relationship soared...see I like Dev I really do for certain things coz despite that fact, he let her study let her work and you know be an independent woman...if he really really wanted to cheat her and keep her blinded he would never have done so, but yes he did commit that one mistake and that's unforgivable at this moment...maybe with time Geet maybe do so and make herself understand that it happens, many woman out there aren't even that lucky enough so somewhere she's free and with Maan...but then again the fact that made Geet queasy was that maybe he spent his time with other women and now she comes to know they were men, so she'll have to you know I mean she can't block it...but at least maybe some years down the lane she might forgive him...because in all this drama one thing that's been good is her meeting Maan nahi toh u never know what would have happened isn't it ?? I even know not every girl is lucky and that she meets someone else, but then there are so many cases so many damn reasons you just can't go on playing the blame game you need to understand things and let go after a time...and then again there is something called as destiny, no matter how advanced we are...tech or thinking there is another force that guides you and does thing...you just can't blame that or question it all the time...time and circumstances matter, and they're different for every individual! You just can't fit into everyone's shoes can you ?? So personally I'm really not annoyed at the way you took things forward...I don't have a slight idea what others might feel..would love to hear their views too!

I really liked the way you, you took up Dev as you said... infidelity is just not the case wherein a lady feels cheated there are so many more to add...and this is one of them!

Also loved the way Maan handled each and everything, he is a strong man though very emotional you getting what I mean right...I know its a contradicting yet!

All in all...it was good one and what I feel is episodes in life have closures not emotions, you can never really shut them down but yes they don't affect you anymore is what I can hope of what you might be meaning!

Guess its too much that I said...dunno what you feel about it, but as a reader this is what I wished to convey to you ! :)

Take Care.

Originally posted by: princess163

Read a couple of comments here and there and realised that Dev's sexuality has become a bone of contention here!

Well, I agree with Hasini's stance. For starters, Dev was an Indian and that fact stays-you can't really taje out the societal pressures from an Indian even if he moves to some place outside India. Well, thats how I think it is based on looking at my extended family who lives outside India though I have no empirical evidence to support my claim, and also, i guess that somewhere Dev's Mom was mentioned too, so, if I am not wrong, family pressure held too!

Moreover, though the other countries are liberal about sexuality several times over as compared to India, the truth of the matter is that they are still not liberal enough to make people from countries like India be comfortable coming out of the closet, particularly because despite not living in India, most Indians maintain primarily Indian circles and hence, the same connect!

As I would like to guess, the pressure in such cases to gain is immense...the pressure of being left alone-that is to be socially acceptable(in most cases by getting married like a usual guy would), and I think he did the same. His attempt to wash his hands off any social stigma did turn out to be horribly bad for Geet and to some extent for Naini, and there is no denying this fact.

I am completely satisfied with the closure provided!

Love

Swati

Originally posted by: 6thElement

Yes I agree with the stats that you are quoting, but 99% of couples going through a divorce resulting from which kind of an affair?
This is only applicable to the case, when the spouse assorts to an external party after they deem their marital relationship is doomed or does not feel sated with the emotional and sexual gratification after even trying to make something out of it.
This is a case where its a sense of betrayal. This does not call Geet's inabilities to provide a happy married life to Dev into question. Well she will be smart girl, if only she can latch onto that difference.

How can Geet ask a man who has always been a closet Gay? That, "Hey I understand you always preferred the opposite sex, but now that we are married, can you try rewiring your psyche?" If only this was even possible, then she could even validate the feelings of insecurity. Else everything is lost on the argument above. (Ok...you made me write the argument from Maan there! )

As for your Per se statement. I dont get it at all Aarya. Please clarify.

Hasini

Originally posted by: 6thElement

I can't appreciate enough of you taking time to write 5 posts so far. Thanks for that Swati. Giving into social pressures is one thing for sure and need to conform has greatly battered the emotional setting of Geet.
There is so much to this, that I will not be able to write it all for Dev when my leads are M&G. Although there is still no closure to Geet is the point I have been driving home. Of course with future updates we will reach some point, but necessarily a full one, given that it cannot be achieved with the lifetime I'm writing for Geet (which is hardly a few more months)

Thanks for stopping by Swati,
Hasini

Originally posted by: night13

The two points which I failed to make you understand..
-- There is a difference between infidelities vs man or woman of the opposite sex
-- The much needed closure in Geet's character is now another open end question.

The NYT stated with story of Geet and I assume you will end with her character getting the justice, closure which is needed.


ps.. archaic meaning classic.. man & women!:)