FF: New York times with Maan&Geet Thread 4 09/13

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Tanya

@tanya_vi

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Posted: 14 years ago

#621

Dev being gay was the most unexpected twist at this juncture..I was racking my poor brain trying to figure of the reason behind his indifferent attitude towards Geet..I thought maybe he was cheating on her or you know, something cliched like that,but I was truly taken aback by this revelation..Poor Geet must be feeling devastated..no..actually I can't imagine her feelings and thoughts...all through her married life with Dev and beyond,she held herself responsible for not being able to get physically intimate,right?? She is indeed lucky to have a strong person like Maan in her life to support her everytime she falters..waiting to read how you bring closure to both the stories..all the very best!!

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-Aarya-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#622

Originally posted by: 6thElement

Welcome back.

I highly doubt I could have taken Dev's character as another rotten case of infidelity. There would be no way to explain the fact that the man did not attempt to seduce his wife to go to bed with him for the entire five years he was with her.
He didn't even try in Geet's words. Let's assume for a minute he is a womanizer, then why didn't he attempt his tricks at the goods at home? And if he is/was emotionally involved with another person (whoever that is) It makes no difference here, because the blow to Geet is all the same. In fact the plot thickens if its a woman and the feeling of low esteem in Geet is a possibility that he preferred another woman in the place of her. But this story is not about Dev at all. But given the placement of his character and his betrayal how does Geet shape up?

I can only say, its not the vile case of a gay man, leading a perfect married life with a woman at home with children and all, but continues to have a same sex partner outside the house. How terrible is that? Glad atleast geet was saved from the add-on trauma of living through that too.

Geet definitely had lot to work on her shoulder. She needs to rebuild her sense of reality. Her sense of closure is within herself, just as Maan said. I can only hope I can deliver it before the end of the story.
Glad you are treating the matter with the solemnity it deserves. You made my day.

I disagree with your completely, cause now not only Geet is feeling betrayed but a woman kind is also feeling betrayed by her man. This brings out insecurities of a woman rather then just infidelities. What would have happened if Dev would have told Geet of the same but Maan was never in the picture with Geet? The story always unfolds towards the end to bring closure and not another climax with open ends, specially that your title states Per Se!

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-pixie-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#623

^^H: I also felt making him gay was too safe and cliched...I mean I can understand societal pressures in India but Dev was living in Toronto??? So why did he get married? We havent heard anything about his family and so its hard to put it down to familial pressures either.

How about he was so involved with whoever it is that he couldnt be with another person? His reasons for getting married may have been whatever!! (Maybe she was married and Geet was a decoy?). I dont know...its a bit strange that Geet would not have noticed Dev's strange (to her and what she would have expected from a husband, coming as she was from HP) behaviour in 5 years...

However, this is your creation and you are free to take it in any which direction as you see fit, I respect that! So Gay it is!😆

Edited by -pixie- - 14 years ago

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bhakbhartifan

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Posted: 14 years ago

#624

Wow.. I didn't see that coming..

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Escapist

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Posted: 14 years ago

#625

Just ended up reading NY times Per Se part 3... and ermm I'm at loss of words !

Why so you may feel...well part of it is due to the blow that I received of Dev being a gay...alright I do not have a problem if that guy is a gay..but what irked me was how the hell could he cheat on an innocent 18 year old girl ?? So much so that she felt that it was due to her that the relationship soared...see I like Dev I really do for certain things coz despite that fact, he let her study let her work and you know be an independent woman...if he really really wanted to cheat her and keep her blinded he would never have done so, but yes he did commit that one mistake and that's unforgivable at this moment...maybe with time Geet maybe do so and make herself understand that it happens, many woman out there aren't even that lucky enough so somewhere she's free and with Maan...but then again the fact that made Geet queasy was that maybe he spent his time with other women and now she comes to know they were men, so she'll have to you know I mean she can't block it...but at least maybe some years down the lane she might forgive him...because in all this drama one thing that's been good is her meeting Maan nahi toh u never know what would have happened isn't it ?? I even know not every girl is lucky and that she meets someone else, but then there are so many cases so many damn reasons you just can't go on playing the blame game you need to understand things and let go after a time...and then again there is something called as destiny, no matter how advanced we are...tech or thinking there is another force that guides you and does thing...you just can't blame that or question it all the time...time and circumstances matter, and they're different for every individual! You just can't fit into everyone's shoes can you ?? So personally I'm really not annoyed at the way you took things forward...I don't have a slight idea what others might feel..would love to hear their views too!

I really liked the way you, you took up Dev as you said... infidelity is just not the case wherein a lady feels cheated there are so many more to add...and this is one of them!

Also loved the way Maan handled each and everything, he is a strong man though very emotional you getting what I mean right...I know its a contradicting yet!

All in all...it was good one and what I feel is episodes in life have closures not emotions, you can never really shut them down but yes they don't affect you anymore is what I can hope of what you might be meaning!

Guess its too much that I said...dunno what you feel about it, but as a reader this is what I wished to convey to you ! :)

Take Care.

Edited by -shabnoor- - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago

#626

Originally posted by: night13

I disagree with your completely, cause now not only Geet is feeling betrayed but a woman kind is also feeling betrayed by her man. This brings out insecurities of a woman rather then just infidelities. What would have happened if Dev would have told Geet of the same but Maan was never in the picture with Geet? The story always unfolds towards the end to bring closure and not another climax with open ends, specially that your title states Per Se!

This brings out insecurities of a woman rather then just infidelities. - The infidelity brings about insecurities, doesn't matter with whom the spouse had an affair with. Geet will feel inadequate no matter what. However chances of redeeming herself from feelings of low esteem in this scenario is a tad bit easier, given the fact, that it was pure letdown on his part and it had nothing to do with her inability to give the gratification needed (The bugger didn't turn gay overnight because she was not good enough) His loyalties didn't just lie elsewhere, but with a whole another genre of a partner by itself, men to be specific.

There is no denying that she has more stuff to deal with than what she originally had. This is no closure in one update...but rather beginning to reach for it. Per se - Intrinsic, does not mean complete.

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Krishna

@Krishnaluv94

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Posted: 14 years ago

#627

Wow, Dev is gay. I need to read the last few chapters again. My brain's working in overtime. Will edit later...

Thanks for the update!

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-Aarya-

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Posted: 14 years ago

#628

Originally posted by: 6thElement

This brings out insecurities of a woman rather then just infidelities. - The infidelity brings about insecurities, doesn't matter with whom the spouse had an affair with. Geet will feel inadequate no matter what. However chances of redeeming herself from feelings of low esteem in this scenario is a tad bit easier, given the fact, that it was pure letdown on his part and it had nothing to do with her inability to give the gratification needed (The bugger didn't turn gay overnight because she was not good enough) His loyalties didn't just lie elsewhere, but with a whole another genre of a partner by itself, men to be specific.

There is no denying that she has more stuff to deal with than what she originally had. This is no closure in one update...but rather beginning to reach for it. Per se - Intrinsic, does not mean complete.

It does matter whom the affair or the infidelities is concurred with, specially the sex of the partner! As per survey of divorced couples, of which 99% of the people who go through marriage counseling, will tell you that such impact are harder to deal with then just having an affair with the opposite sex. Geet must ask Dev..'why wasn't I (as a women) enough, that you had to go find a man'! I must say that I still believe in the archaic (Per Se: by itself) of all relationships.

Edited by night13 - 14 years ago

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Posted: 14 years ago

#629

Originally posted by: -pixie-
^^H: I also felt making him gay was too safe and cliched...I mean I can understand societal pressures in India but Dev was living in Toronto??? So why did he get married? We havent heard anything about his family and so its hard to put it down to familial pressures either.

How about he was so involved with whoever it is that he couldnt be with another person? His reasons for getting married may have been whatever!! (Maybe she was married and Geet was a decoy?). I dont know...its a bit strange that Geet would not have noticed Dev's strange (to her and what she would have expected from a husband, coming as she was from HP) behaviour in 5 years...

However, this is your creation and you are free to take it in any which direction as you see fit, I respect that! So Gay it is!😆

Ok...wrote up a whole lot and lost it. 😡

Alright. Dev and Geet stayed with his Mom (Part 60 Genesis) But I do agree that I had not gotten to the back story and stressed about the part why he did what he did. I felt that would draw focus from our leads, but I guess that was needed too.

As for having another angle to Dev's betrayal, In my mind, I couldn't have him involved with another woman. Didn't matter about since when he got involved with the affair, because, in case he married Geet first and found another woman later, then the part he didn't make anything out of their wedlock cannot be explained.
Or in the vice versa situation, if he was involved with someone even before their marriage, then why get married in the first place. The desperation to get married to her would not have risen in the first place.
The wedding was more out of a necessity to keep his identity (which I agree should have been highlighted)

As for Geet being clueless...Dev had a clear facade going there with flirting up other women, which did not rise doubts in other men's minds. And for the latter part of their marriage, she was mostly away or he was traveling (Part 60 Genesis).

I can only hope there will be some justice in writing out Geet's state of mind in the next few updates. Thanks for stopping by.
Hasini

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Posted: 14 years ago

#630

Originally posted by: night13

It does matter whom the affair or the infidelities is concurred with, specially the sex of the partner! As per survey of divorced couples, of which 99% of the people who go through marriage counseling, will tell you that such impact are harder to deal with then just having an affair with the opposite sex. Geet must ask Dev..'why wasn't I (as a women) enough, that you had to go find a man'! I must say that I still believe in the archaic (Per Se: by itself) of all relationships.

Yes I agree with the stats that you are quoting, but 99% of couples going through a divorce resulting from which kind of an affair?
This is only applicable to the case, when the spouse assorts to an external party after they deem their marital relationship is doomed or does not feel sated with the emotional and sexual gratification after even trying to make something out of it.
This is a case where its a sense of betrayal. This does not call Geet's inabilities to provide a happy married life to Dev into question. Well she will be smart girl, if only she can latch onto that difference.

How can Geet ask a man who has always been a closet Gay? That, "Hey I understand you always preferred the opposite sex, but now that we are married, can you try rewiring your psyche?" If only this was even possible, then she could even validate the feelings of insecurity. Else everything is lost on the argument above. (Ok...you made me write the argument from Maan there! )

As for your Per se statement. I dont get it at all Aarya. Please clarify.

Hasini

Edited by 6thElement - 14 years ago