Dharamkshetra discussion thread 2 - Page 7

@Anu di - But he was forgiven IMO. And also, loaf of bread and education is not the same. If one lies for food, he can be forgiven as without it he would die. And most importantly K wasn't denied of education.

The other day we were discussing. Bheem is a huge sinner because he called K a suta in Rangbhoomi and all. But Dury is not a sinner when it comes to accusing the Pandavs for being "god knows whos son".

I know Arijit bhai and Brishti

Honestly speaking, I would have at least slapped the man who had insulted my younger brother in front of public and threatened to kill him. Bheem only called him suta putra instead of doing so (who says Bheem has no control on anger?). I do not see Bheem's fault here, not a little bit. Calling a suta as a suta is not crime IMO, at least in Dwapar yug. But Karna was an outsider and he did not have right even to challenge Arjun there, let alone threaten him.
And yes, thanks Brishti for posting that point. Everybody clapped when Dury protected Karna's 'honour' but none protested (and none protests in this kaliyuga too) when finger is raised at the divine births of Pandavas 😭

@ Anu di, LOVED it 👏😆

Originally posted by: AnuMP

@Indianprincess

Sin isn't determined by culture. Presumably Chitragupta is the gate keeper for the whole world and not just India.

Denying an education on the basis of caste is a greater sin than lying to your teacher. That's almost like telling a starving man stealing a loaf of bread that he committed a sin and persecuting him for the rest of his life for it.

@Rest Karna's crime was mainly in the DS. There are reasons to suspect this was an add on. But if we take the epic as is, at this point in time, it was an unforgivable crime. Even the involvement in Lac House can be explained away as fighting for his friend's throne. But not the assault on Panchali.

There really is not much else in the epic to malign him. Abhi vadh happened in the context of war. I keep saying, if you involve your children in war, you have to expect them to come back in boxes. That is the reality of life.

What bugs me more is the fact that he is touted as one of main characters. He was not. Without him, nothing would have changed, till his involvement in the KK war; IF we consider VH an interpolation. With it he becomes a villain. Without it, he is not important till the war happens.

Not only for DS, I have many more aarops for him. I cannot forget lakshagriha, or the ghosh yatra one. How casually he suggested Dury to attack helpless Pandavas and kill them in forest!!! I think Dury too could not think this much. He just agreed with what his friend said. And finally, I have a little softness to Dury when he is really ashamed after Pandavas saved him, but look at Karna, that guy was still saying, "Pandavas are your slaves dear, it was their duty to save you!" Believe it or not, even Shakuni was soft to Pandavas after that incident. He told Dury to return IP. But only one was in his full form.

Originally posted by: Urmila11

Not only for DS, I have many more aarops for him. I cannot forget lakshagriha, or the ghosh yatra one. How casually he suggested Dury to attack helpless Pandavas and kill them in forest!!! I think Dury too could not think this much. He just agreed with what his friend said. And finally, I have a little softness to Dury when he is really ashamed after Pandavas saved him, but look at Karna, that guy was still saying, "Pandavas are your slaves dear, it was their duty to save you!" Believe it or not, even Shakuni was soft to Pandavas after that incident. He told Dury to return IP. But only one was in his full form.

I better NOT start on aarops on him. The episode was totally disappointing!! I mean, ok, I was expecting whitewashing. But to this extent that all the arops got cleared 😲😡 LOL man. Semanti and I had already predicted what would happen in the episode and that is what happened! Like seriously 🤣

Originally posted by: indianprincess

what? did he actually say that?😡

he said a lot things dear 😉😆

Originally posted by: Brishti_Sarkar

I better NOT start on aarops on him. The episode was totally disappointing!! I mean, ok, I was expecting whitewashing. But to this extent that all the arops got cleared 😲😡 LOL man. Semanti and I had already predicted what would happen in the episode and that is what happened! Like seriously 🤣

ALL his arops got cleared and they said aapka nam Arjun se pehle liya jayeka. For what joy? Honestly speaking I will never forgive him, and do not sympathize at all with him.