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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyasn


those who dont see Veera's mistakes and always support her are blind Veera fans for me ...

For example Veera going to meet Rajveer at night was so wrong and stupid ... what if some pindwasi catches them together , what if he tried to force her , in future he kidnaps her like that only ...
But u supported her and blamed Baldev who doubted her ... any normal person will have a doubt ..
Sorry I dont have such fake feminism ...





No one is NOT accepting Veera's mistake! All some of us are saying is that Baldev has ALSO made mistakes! While people are willing to accept VEERA has made mistakes, even the one's you call "Blind Fans!", it is the Blind Baldev fans that wont accept HE has made ANY mistakes! He is always right? Tell me is Baldev a MAN or a GOD?


Seriously...this is not feminism! Fake or otherwise. If it was, I would have supported Veera from day 1, which I didnt! I dont like her Veerji obsession either, and how she acted the night of the wedding. But I am looking at it from a practical and rational angle! Not everyone who is saying some of Baldev's actions are wrong are "Fake feminists!". So please stop being so judgmental!


It's strange that you don't consider yourself a Blind Baldev fan when it is clear you can never see anything he does as wrong? But those who even once say that Veera should be given a chance too, AUTOMATICALLY become "Blind fans!" What a double standard!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Guys, I understand most of you are of the view that VeeBa should indeed divorce afterall there is nothing left to save in this 'TOXIC' relationship right?
What people fail to understand is that if the divorce did happen then neither would be happy without the other infact I believe that Baldev would spiral into self-destruction.
At current, we're witnessing his hatred towards Veera but what about his love for her, deep down in that HUGE heart of his there is still love, but it is overpowered by his hatred at present.
We all want Baldev to be happy right? Well that will only happen when all misunderstandings are cleared and both Baldev and Veera work TOGETHER to regain their relationship.
There is no Baldev without Veera and vice versa.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The trauma Baldev went through isn't something most of us can understand. His anger towards Veera was justified. After suffering so much when Veera decided to marry him against everybody's wishes that became his one ray of hope. He didn't care that the world thought of him as a murderer. It was enough that his soulmate believed in his innocence else y would she have married him was his feeling. But when Veera said her veerji is always right it broke him to an extent that turned him into a monster himself 😵 I defo blame Veera here. She broke him in the worst possible manner and whenever Veera cried thinking where she was wrong I felt like throwing all things I got in hand at her 🤢 But that cannot justify what Baldev did with Veera after that. He had every right to give her a divorce and ask her to go out of his life but he tortured her. No woman should be made to suffer the way Veera did. No matter how much you love one person it doesn't give you the right to treat them like shit if you feel betrayed. But u do have every right to end the relationship right away. Which Baldev should have done rather than doing what he did!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan




No one is NOT accepting Veera's mistake! All some of us are saying is that Baldev has ALSO made mistakes! While people are willing to accept VEERA has made mistakes, even the one's you call "Blind Fans!", it is the Blind Baldev fans that wont accept HE has made ANY mistakes! He is always right?Tell me is Baldev a MAN or a GOD?


Seriously...this is notfeminism! Fake or otherwise. If it was, I would have supported Veera from day 1, which I didnt! I dont like her Veerji obsession either, and how she acted the night of the wedding. But I am looking at it from a practical and rational angle! Not everyone who is saying some of Baldev's actions are wrong are "Fake feminists!". So please stop being sojudgmental!


It's strange that youdon'tconsider yourself a Blind Baldev fan when it is clear you can never see anything he does as wrong? But those who even once say that Veera should be given a chance too, AUTOMATICALLY become "Blind fans!" What a double standard!


we r not baldev blind fan bcos agar baldev apane pure hosh me hote huye ye sab karta to ham bhi uski mistek samjh lete or rhi dance wali baat to o galat thi hi usme koi shaq nahi par kya B us waqt apne hosh me tha?nahi mentaly bhi nahi physicly bhi.v/v pure hosh me veera ne kya kiya o sab jante hai chalo o sab chod bhi do kuanki V yaha galt hai sab mante hai.par ham ye dave ke saat kah sakte hai jab Baldev pure hosh me aayega medical treetment lega to o pure imandari se veera se mafi bhi mangega.par kya veera ko uski galti ka ahesas hota agar baldev aisa behave Nahi karta to o to hamesa ki tarah granted leti B ko.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: FieryHeart

The trauma Baldev went through isn't something most of us can understand. His anger towards Veera was justified. After suffering so much when Veera decided to marry him against everybody's wishes that became his one ray of hope. He didn't care that the world thought of him as a murderer. It was enough that his soulmate believed in his innocence else y would she have married him was his feeling. But when Veera said her veerji is always right it broke him to an extent that turned him into a monster himself 😵 I defo blame Veera here. She broke him in the worst possible manner and whenever Veera cried thinking where she was wrong I felt like throwing all things I got in hand at her 🤢 But that cannot justify what Baldev did with Veera after that. He had every right to give her a divorce and ask her to go out of his life but he tortured her. No woman should be made to suffer the way Veera did. No matter how much you love one person it doesn't give you the right to treat them like shit if you feel betrayed. But u do have every right to end the relationship right away. Which Baldev should have done rather than doing what he did!




Agree with every word you said! THIS what I have said for the past few weeks and NO one wants to accept it! I was angry with Veera coz SHE pushed Baldev over the edge of reason, when he thought she actually believes he is a killer. I FELT for him totally. I was like "You FOOL Veera". How dare you? Is what I thought!


THEN came the endless days of humiliation, pushing around, shouting, never listening to a word she says etc etc. THAT was Baldev's failing. He acted in a way that was unbecoming to him! Someone can betray us. We can be angry. We can be disappointed. But that does not give us a license to mistreat them daily and use our POSITION in that person's life to continue to show aggression towards them! THAT is what I objected to and I will never change my mind about it. Had Baldev behaved better, had he just ignored her, or told her he will divorce her the very next week...I would have respected him!


But how he acted made him look like an abuser. It was not all PTSD either. It was anger towards Veera and his need to get revenge! That is all fine. But what I have a problem with is that Veera ko zaza dene ki chakkar main...Baldev Khud Girgaya hain! I always LOVED Baldev and it hurt me to see him like that. I wish he didn't lower himself to teach Veera a lesson. Because once all this is over, he WILL realise that how he reacted and how he treated her was not worthy of him!


But try telling that to the blind fanbotts and they come up with 100 million excuses. In their eyes Baldev can NEVER be wrong! It disturbs me when I see women, who say that another women deserves to be pushed around and publicly humiliated because she was not perfect and was not a perfect understanding partner. Saying someone deserves abuse speaks to the values of those who say it. Not those who disagree with it!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan



No one is NOT accepting Veera's mistake! All some of us are saying is that Baldev has ALSO made mistakes! While people are willing to accept VEERA has made mistakes, even the one's you call "Blind Fans!", it is the Blind Baldev fans that wont accept HE has made ANY mistakes! He is always right? Tell me is Baldev a MAN or a GOD?


Seriously...this is not feminism! Fake or otherwise. If it was, I would have supported Veera from day 1, which I didnt! I dont like her Veerji obsession either, and how she acted the night of the wedding. But I am looking at it from a practical and rational angle! Not everyone who is saying some of Baldev's actions are wrong are "Fake feminists!". So please stop being so judgmental!


It's strange that you don't consider yourself a Blind Baldev fan when it is clear you can never see anything he does as wrong? But those who even once say that Veera should be given a chance too, AUTOMATICALLY become "Blind fans!" What a double standard!




Yup Baldev and Bansuri did torture and did so many wrong things to Veera

1) He made Veera carry heavy shopping bags ... Eventhough Veera doesnt have any health issue or back problem . And she did work her a** off in Nihaal's farm without proper food ... ( that was for her poojy papaji's dream ) she will even die for that , but how dare Baldev ask her to carry bags and torture her ...

2) He made her prepare food -- Ok Veera forced newly wed Gunjan to make dozens and dozens of parathas for Baldev and co , but how can Veera make food .. bechari 😕


3) He asked her to dance infront of the some paraye mard .. chalo Veera told worse things to Baldev, slapped him, blamed him, and she freely visits rajveer who stays alone irrespective of the time , but how dare Baldev say such a thing ... he did a grave sin ...

4) Bansuri scolded Veera and informed Baldev about Veera's regular late comings, sneaking out of house lying at night , meeting Rajveer at his house many times ...
Chalo Veera did scold, insult, threaten , intimidate Gunjan when she was trying to elope and escape from her Veerji ... but how could elderly Bansuri taunt and scold her ... ghor paap ...

Bechari Veera ...

Now they both will torture her by giving her divorce ... aur kithne sulm sahengi ye bechari ... 😭

Edited by divyasn - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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@Divysan:
I will NOT argue with you, because you are not someone who knows how to see two sides to any story! Are you seriously suggesting that if your husband walks in front of you waving his hands and makes you carry 10 bags you can barely lift it is OK? Having to work in a farm in Poland is not the same thing! That was for a purpose. Whoever she did it for? Also, WHY cant she do that to fulfill her Father's wish? What is wrong with that? She was not even Baldev's girlfriend then. So who should she do it for then?


Dancing in front of strange men is not the same as slapping Baldev in his house! No one other than his family saw that! Not that it was right! And NO ONE thinks its right! But you think any nasty thing Baldev does is ALL correct.


The problem with you, is that you justify EVERYTHING Baldev does. You cannot see ANYTHING wrong with the way he acts, even when the way he acts is clearly incorrect! Your hatred for Veera has blinded you SO much! I honestly dont think this level of hatred is healthy? Are you sure you are OK?


Sorry, but your arguments in favor of Baldev's acts of publicly humiliating his wife are RIDICULOUS and betrays your immaturity. I dont know what age group you are in, but you must be very young to be this biased and blind! Sorry, I dont like to make personal comments but the way you talk, I had NO choice! I apologize in advance.


LEARN to see two sides to everything. The world is not black and white and only life experience will teach you that.
Edited by MrDarcyfan - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan

@Divysan:

I will NOT argue with you, because you are not someone who knows how to see two sides to any story! Are you seriously suggesting that if your husband walks in front of you waving his hands and makes you carry 10 bags you can barely lift it is OK? Having to work in a farm in Poland is not the same thing! That was for a purpose. Whoever she did it for? Also, WHY cant she do that to fulfill her Father's wish? What is wrong with that? She was not even Baldev's girlfriend then. So who should she do it for then?


Dancing in front of strange men is not the same as slapping Baldev in his house! No one other than his family saw that! Not that it was right! And NO ONE thinks its right! But you think any nasty thing Baldev does is ALL correct.


The problem with you, is that you justify EVERYTHING Baldev does. You cannot see ANYTHING wrong with the way he acts, even when the way he acts is clearly incorrect! Your hatred for Veera has blinded you SO much! I honestly dont think this level of hatred is healthy? Are you sure you are OK?


Sorry, but your arguments in favor of Baldev's acts of publicly humiliating his wife are RIDICULOUS and betrays your immaturity. I dont know what age group you are in, but you must be very young to be this biased and blind! Sorry, I dont like to make personal comments but the way you talk, I had NO choice! I apologize in advance.


LEARN to see two sides to everything. The world is not black and white and only life experience will teach you that.



I have told you previously also there is no need of personal attack ...
But you keep repeating that and it shows who is the immature one here ...

And you have apologized because you know whatever u said is not right ... ,

and you appearing so emotional and hyper about some fictional characters ...
are you alright and healthy ?

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: divyasn



I have told you previously also there is no need of personal attack ...
But you keep repeating that and it shows who is the immature one here ...

And you have apologized because you know whatever u said is not right ... ,

and you appearing so emotional and hyper about some fictional characters ...
are you alright and healthy ?





I have never personally attacked you! I have been mature in my dealings with you. But you really are NOT prepared to see any other point of view but your own! It's frustrating to even have a discussion coz it is like you are talking to a blind wall!


I apologized because I am a POLITE person, and dont like to make personal comments. But if you want to use that to attack me, go ahead. You come to this forum and make posts attacking Veera, and supporting Baldev, and you call ME emotional and hyper about a fictional character? Also, why do you keep using those two words? Tell me why are you here, if you dont care about any of these fictional characters? I only commented about your hatred, which I don't think is healthy! Caring about fictional characters does not make you unhealthy! In that case NO literature will exist and they might as well stop writing books or making movies or shows, coz no one will care about fictional characters, so why bother?


I like to have healthy discussions with rational people who can see there is always two sides to every story. But it is clear this thread wont provide that. I think it is best if we end this discussion here. It's serving NO purpose of any kind. You will never see any other person's point of view. That is clear! So this is a waste of time! Peace out!

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: MrDarcyfan





I have never personally attacked you! I have been mature in my dealings with you. But you really are NOT prepared to see any other point of view but your own! It's frustrating to even have a discussion coz it is like you are talking to a blind wall!


I apologized because I am a POLITE person, and dont like to make personal comments. But if you want to use that to attack me, go ahead. You come to this forum and make posts attacking Veera, and supporting Baldev, and you call ME emotional and hyper about a fictional character? Also, why do you keep using those two words? Tell me why are you here, if you dont care about any of these fictional characters? I only commented about your hatred, which I don't think is healthy! Caring about fictional characters does not make you unhealthy! In that case NO literature will exist and they might as well stop writing books or making movies or shows, coz no one will care about fictional characters, so why bother?


I like to have healthy discussions with rational people who can see there is always two sides to every story. But it is clear this thread wont provide that. I think it is best if we end this discussion here. It's serving NO purpose of any kind. You will never see any other person's point of view. That is clear! So this is a waste of time! Peace out!



Wah wah after making personal comments again and again you are telling that you are polite and mature .. , and being emotional and hyper - is clear from your language and the caps you use -- I think you too are a victim of domestic violence - hence the strong reaction ...

btw you go and discuss with rational people ...and stay out of this thread ...

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