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neesha119

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Posted: 9 years ago

#661

Heavy duty romance coming up on Friday going by Nilanjana's response to a tweet..![/QUOTE

really what did neelu tweet BTW...

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@hamzanuha

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Posted: 9 years ago

#662

Originally posted by: manny136

I dunno something is off about this character or its the acting choices ? You can clearly see the diff, all the milk bathing, eye lining, fire holding, bling wearing wont make him more suave n interesting like ranaji. Btw who wears all tht bling for a fight what is he Mr. T wannabe?!? You live in a camp n dress like a character from arabian nights eye liner included lol

^ 😆 😆 😆

You know, after watching that scene of him bathing with milk, then getting ready with earrings and finger rings, they showed closeup of his eyes and then the mouth, I seriously thought they were going to show him applying kajal and lipstick 🤣 It was as if a bride was getting ready 😆

Who is this guy? Never seen him before. In a more experienced actor, the character would have been menacing, instead of coming across as a buffoon

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anobserver

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Posted: 9 years ago

#663

So, Ranaji thinks that while a wife can try and change her husband's decision, a Queen should not try to change a King's decision. I, somehow, cannot reconcile myself to that view. My only problem with Gayatri's actions as a Queen is that they were in public.

Well, the distinction drawn by Ranaji provides the basis for an interesting scenario -- one that to be the plot of some many movies of yore.

If and when Gayatri becomes pregnant with the heir to the throne and if the pregnancy is not smooth sailing, the same distinction could come home to roost. She could just as well tell Ranaji that while the husband could try to get her to change her decision, even the King had no right to get the Queen to change her decision -- if she decided that giving birth to the heir is her dharma.

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As I said, I will try and walk a mile in Gayatri's shoes, especially as it is strange for me to keep questioning a female lead's actions.

Gayatri has always been impulsive as well as outspoken. Witness her spirited defence of Rajmata against Wilkinson at the birthday party. Witness her conversation with Ranaji from behind the veils, despite her mother's protestations, when the soldiers entered their home to search for the culprit it after the pot accidentally fell from the terrace on Ranaji's entourage. 'Tis just two of such instances. I am certain that there have been several more.

So, it's not in Gayatri's character to keep quiet when she feels that something is wrong. And not even becoming a Queen -- and she didn't want to become a Queen; she just wanted to be the wife of the man who happens to be the King -- can change that inherent trait of hers. Perhaps she may learn. Or perhaps she may not.

In a sense, it is good that they are exploring this conflict. In hindsight, the scene of Gayatri questioning Ranaji's actions in public appears to have been written deliberately to bring out this conflict. So, I do hope that they explore it meaningfully.

Edited by anobserver - 9 years ago

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anobserver

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Posted: 9 years ago

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Originally posted by: anobserver
So, Ranaji thinks that while a wife can try and change her husband's decision, a Queen should not try to change a King's decision. I, somehow, cannot reconcile myself to that view. My only problem with Gayatri's actions as a Queen is that they were in public.

Some more thoughts on this.

So, in "public" -- in the presence of strangers, she supported her husband and the King and called the challenger's bluff.

But, in the palace, in the presence of other members of the extended family, she tries to get him to change his decision. So, for her, their presence was not such that it meant that she was airing her views in public. Of course, I differ on that.

Now on to how she handled it. Gayatri told her husband that that he would not fight. And, from there, their differences escalated. Lady, you do need to acquire some more tact.

Given that they are from different backgrounds (him from a Rajput family and her from a businessman's family), clearly they are not ad idem regarding honour and valour. As a businessman's daughter, she is likely far more attuned to cottoning on to deceptive practices. As a warrior, he is (and the ladies of the family are) far more concerned with the ideals of honour and valour. Little wonder then that Rajmata -- a Rajput herself -- was far more at ease with her only son's decision to accept the challenge. While concerned with the possible perfidy by Avdesh, she still does not try to dissuade her son from the challenge.

On the other hand, Gayatri does not hesitate to voice her concerns in a bid to get her husband to withdraw from the challenge.

One thing that I failed to understand. Ranaji himself acknowledged that Gayatri's words and actions were that of a wife. So, why does he declare that this fight is about a King winning the trust of his Queen? Given the earlier dialogue of how the trust of the people was reposed in him and he could not sit at home when a challenger came a-calling, surely it ought to have been a fight of the King to win the trust of his people, which would include the commoner wife of the King. And it would have been a good way for him to lay the old ghosts of past to rest -- the subjects who were dissatisfied with the absentee grieving King.

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chennaigirl

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Posted: 9 years ago

#665

So just because Gayathri screamed Ranaji , avdesh got distracted and rnj wins.

Is this really what we wanted to see? No I hated it. Agreed that guy cheated with something in his hand. But rnj is a seasoned warrior and he should have been shown handling this cheat his own way.

If rnj had tackled him even after falling down and when he tried to kill avdesh Gayathri had stopped him it's fair enough. But what they showed today I cant accept.

I like sid and DD. But this is about RNJ and Gayathri and I didn't like the way Gayathri was again projected as the saviour of RNJ in a fight.

And rnj doesn't have even an iota of doubt on avdesh as to why he is extending friendship? And he goes all mushy on this guy. For God's sake he is a king. A king doesn't go about trusting anybody and everybody.

Don't want to talk about the episode anymore. Just disappointed. I can see where this track is going. Cvs you can't think out of the box. I got that.

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Anu-if

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Posted: 9 years ago

#666

@ an observer

Nice view and analysis! 👏

I think ranaji does not like what he perceives gayatri's lack of trust in him whether as a wife or a queen.. He wants to carry on with his decision of the battle so he uses his position as a king to in a way 'impose' his decision on gayatri becoz probably, from what I can make out, he does not think that as a husband he can impose that decision on her..

I hope I am not sounding too confusing! 😃

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anobserver

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Posted: 9 years ago

#667

He extends his trust far too easily, fairly certain that most everyone lives by the same code of honour that he does.

She is far less trusting.

Ironic! It ought to have been the other way round. He ought to be looking at the world through the glasses of a cynic and she through rose-tinted glasses. At least, that's how they were portrayed initially.

Has love wrought such a huge change in them?

PS: Again, I haven't seen the whole episode. I only caught the last part.

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hihi

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Posted: 9 years ago

#668

Originally posted by: anobserver
He extends his trust far too easily, fairly certain that most everyone lives by the same code of honour that he does.
She is far less trusting.

Ironic! It ought to have been the other way round. He ought to be looking at the world through the glasses of a cynic and she through rose-tinted glasses. At least, that's how they were portrayed initially.

Has love wrought such a huge change in them?

PS: Again, I haven't seen the whole episode. I only caught the last part.

Ranaji has this weird streak of always trusting the wrong people. See how long it took Gayatri to win his trust, while she is harmless?

Gayatri knew new guy was going to cheat. She used his liking he has for her to Ranaji's advantage and got his attention. Yesterday she was just testing to see how eager he was to win. Ranaji doesn't know the enemy well enough yet.

This is why i say Gayatri already is a Queen. She just uses gut feeling. That's all.

Now the storyline could still end well with them becoming friends, but at this point no way!

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BertieWooster

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Posted: 9 years ago

#669

@anobserver

I think there is a dichotomy that RNJ appreciates but G is yet to understand, given her newness to the whole royalty thing...RNJ calls his mother Rajmata and not Maa...not even in private...he seems to be a King most of the time even with his mother..

The only person with whom he is himself, Indravadhan, is G...he pretty much says that to her during their lakeside conversation...

However, in matters of state, he cannot be G's husband..and he has to be King...likewise she cannot be Indravadhan's wife...she has to be Queen Gayathri Devi...his point is while common women have the luxury of imposing their choices on their husbands, she does not enjoy the same because of her royal status...for his decision to duel with Avdesh was not made as her husband but as the King...and protocol lays down that the King is the highest decision making authority in a State...

With regard to fighting to win the trust of his Queen, he is referring to her constantly pushing him to withdraw from battle...she fears that he cannot face his opponent...that is the crux of it so far as he is concerned...this has nothing to do with the people...it is a given that he is fighting for the honour of his throne and his people...but in the context of that particular discussion, his point is that it is his Queen's trust that he needs to win...which is more important to him..he does not consider winning over the enemy such a big challenge...as simple as that...!

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aan-rish

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Posted: 9 years ago

#670

I liked the episode . Rnj fought like a true rajput warrior. Advesh was clearly cheating. His dance part was edited. I was eager to see his dancing part. Loved Kuwar chacha's expression in that gunghroo tying part. Kokile and Lakshraj is more evil than Kuwar chacha. Advesh was shamelessly ogling someone's wife 🤢. I really liked G for 2 things today. She asked RM's permission before getting in to the arena 👍🏼, She looked outrageously beautiful today ⭐️.

Advesh is using Rnj's goodness against him. Rnj trusted him little too easily, RM is confused it seems.