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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: aan-rish

I liked the episode . Rnj fought like a true rajput warrior. Advesh was clearly cheating. His dance part was edited. I was eager to see his dancing part. Loved Kuwar chacha's expression in that gunghroo tying part. Kokile and Lakshraj is more evil than Kuwar chacha. Advesh was shamelessly ogling someone's wife 🤢. I really liked G for 2 things today. She asked RM's permission before getting in to the arena 👍🏼, She looked outrageously beautiful today ⭐️.

Advesh is using Rnj's goodness against him. Rnj trusted him little too easily, RM is confused it seems.

I beg to differ. As I said in my post as a true warrior they should have let him get up and defeat the cheat I would have been happy.

But no . He won because Gayathri screamed and distracted. Was this fair to a seasoned warrior like rnj?

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Posted: 9 years ago
I tried to see things positive ly chennaigirl. Concentration is the first lesson taught to a warrior. When Advesh lost his concentration he lost the fight. He got distracted when she screamed. Even if it is someone else he would have distracted. Rnj used this opportunity to his favor. Anyone else in Rnj's place would have done the same. Its not because of G he won, its because of his opponents lack of concentration. I forgot to add one thing , with lots of effort Advesh ttried to talk normally today
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Posted: 9 years ago
Another dramatic episode..!
They edited out the dance...thank the Lord for small mercies!

Avdesh has basically a single expression on his face...he uses his voice to show variation...by which I mean he raises or lowers it...mostly raises, I think!

I really liked the fact that Sid remained true to RNJ's character...another actor, faced with a performer in the same frame playing to the gallery by indulging in theatrics, might just try to pitch it up by a few notches...but he never made that attempt...RNJ remained himself, calm, composed and controlled even in fury...!

As expected Avdesh did not play fair..what do you expect of a pirate who eyes another man's wife!

G ran up to RM and asked for permission to be with her husband..wonder what she would've done if the battle had been waged out in an arena...and not the precincts of the palace?

A Q to the creatives about their drivel on her being a dhaal...what of the women whose husbands go out to the battlefront as soldiers or as cops to conflict zones...are these women lesser beings...or am I expected to take a bullet meant for my husband to prove my pativrata...tough standards these desitv wohus set, I say!
I am not romanticising Jauhar...but there was a reason why it happened and how it happened...we cannot sit in judgment looking at it through the prism of our times...G's choice was hers to make...only don't want it to reflect on the sacrifices made by all those Queens and their children...!

Anyway having run down the stairs and on seeing her husband down on the ground, one can understand why she shrieked!

The unfortunate part is now we will never know if RNJ would still have managed to evade Avdesh's spear even otherwise! But well, he made a tactical move on seeing his opponent's concentration broken...and tactic is an important war strategy too!

It would be damaging on G's character if someone assumed that she shouted so she could distract Avdesh with her beauty or presence...to me, it seemed like it was an instinctive cry of panic...nothing more!

Now why would G have to shout out a second command when Avdesh was at the receiving end...I mean, does she not think RNJ capable of taking any kind of decision...with this kind of writing, I can neither blame those who call RNJ spineless or even myself for calling G a wohu...because that is how wohus are...interfering busybodies who have to poke their noses into just about everything!

So now, Avdesh has decided to shift tactics..he wants to win by cunning...by offering a hand of friendship only to back stab!

In the tradition of true warrior spirit, RNJ had no choice but to accept the hand...! Can't fault him for that! It would have seemed extremely churlish otherwise!

The precap indicates that he swallows Avdesh's sob story. Is it that simple? Or is RNJ following the maxim of keeping the enemy closer so he can find out his true intent...can't trust these writers since they made him gift the throne to Kunwar Chacha...!

RNJ is like that innermost black dot on the dart board ...the one that the creatives like to aim their darts at!

P.S - what is with G and her payal? is someone going to gift it to Avdesh so he can use it against her? Just like Wilkie did? How repetitive can the writers get? Or is to show that she crossed the line when she dropped the payal? Some kind of a symbolic thing?
Edited by BertieWooster - 9 years ago
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Posted: 9 years ago
Hey ...can someone ask Nilanjana...G was wearing the bitchiyas...what is that supposed to mean? That the consummation is over...they skipped showing it and the ritual of making her wear them too?
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Posted: 9 years ago
It will seem to a larger audience that due to Gayathris scream avdesh got distracted and rnj used it to win. My mother and her friends said the same. Cant rnj win on his own? Is their first question. It's not that she screamed intentionally but why did she have to be shown doing that even in panic ?
They couldn't have avoided it? Why does Gayathri have to be omnipresent? not just me but a large number of people watching ETR in my relatives are asking the same.

Now I absolutely have no hope on rnj as already sid said only RM and Gayathri will do everything. So he goes about trusting this guy and absorbs his sob story.

I am tired of repeat tracks here. Gayathri doesn't trust and rnj trusts. So a repeat of Gayathri being questioned by rnj after the hug? cvs I am requesting you to do something different please. RaGa make ETR. Make both strong. I beg you.




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Posted: 9 years ago
Just watched an episode of a show that telecasts at the same time as this one. It is a show that I watched randomly in the past before giving up on it...the same old saas-bahu stuff but very less negativity..the only redeeming fact...
They spent an entire episode over a fake death...so much of crying and so much drama...couldn't help thinking of this show...and the positive aspect of it...that they never prolong any kind of drama...and their tracks do not last beyond a few weeks...good thing that!

However, that kind of drama may well get that show TRPs...!

I am thinking that TRPs and my attention span have an inverse relationship...the greater the TRPs, the lesser my desire to watch the show...!

@chennaigirl

I get where you are coming from...the larger audience is bound to think that...they just wrapped up a track where it took G's fake death to open RNJ's eyes to BRM's evil...why would they play the same track again...what sense does it even make?

But they needed to bring this guy into the same frame...they had to get him into the palace...like with the fake S track...nobody else other than RNJ could invite him...

RNJ is always the fall guy...poor chap!
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

Hey ...can someone ask Nilanjana...G was wearing the bitchiyas...what is that supposed to mean? That the consummation is over...they skipped showing it and the ritual of making her wear them too?


To me consummation is long over. Wouldn't it be silly to show SR now? What normal couple in love would refrain?
They can show a scene of .. Whatever but please I hope they do not call it SR. That is the logical part.
But CVS can do anything and everything.



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Posted: 9 years ago
Also, didn't Avdesh cheat initially. He kind of had blades in his hand with which he hurt Ranaji?
And Ranaji still will trust him?
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: Betterose

Also, didn't Avdesh cheat initially. He kind of had blades in his hand with which he hurt Ranaji?

And Ranaji still will trust him?


Just saw the epi not precap but ranaji looked suspicious of avdesh like he accepted this token of friendship out of courtesy, coz he has manners. Rnj seemed surprised when avdeshgrabbed him and hugged him, hopefully he didnt make up his mind yet n keeps his guard up. What exactly happened in the precap has avdesh won him over or rnj still keeping his true thoughts to himself
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Posted: 9 years ago
I also wanted to win Ranaji without Gayatri presence there , but her scare about this guys can win by cheating n he will take advantage of Ranajji goodness like BRM said n also RM told to G, so G scare n concern is not wrong its fine, about Daal yes there are the cases in history it happened in real where lady save husband, Kaikai got Marry Raja dashrath as she saved his life in Waar he was impressed by her,
I think CV has actually shown better way that it did not looked that bad ,she wanted to be there as she can't die like that if Ranaji defeat, she want to be with Ranaji( she was shown always like that in char) quiet ok , and unknowing she distracted him n he loose concentration which was very imp part of the fight(should not distracted by anything), as Avdesh was also cheating if he would not have been cheating then it would have looked bad,( they have just used her like they used in kidnapping track to distract goons)The fear RM n Gayatri was having ,actually true, in fair game definitely Ranaji could have win, I wanted even he was cheating but Ranaji should still win but I feel ,main reason to keep him in palace to show his interest in G to take track go ahead was the reason to show this way.
if you guys remember when Wikky fight happened there also same thing happen, first he was not having his own Talwaar, so wikky was over powering him, as they had to shown as show G concern n lakshya plan backfire , here he was also not using his choice weapon( talwaar) again same kind of situation.

Sec he was almost defeated when G shout, wikky stopped like today Avdesh stopped, and gave him Talwaar to Ranaji n match got Changed wikky got defeated, if you think positive , here atleast they have given more reason G unknowing distracting, as Avdesh was cheating, that is more convening so, its ok for me.

here if we think other way, basically they added positive reason by showing Avdesh was cheating and was taking Ranaji goodness advantage which was the main reason of G n RM concern and even told by BRM its quiet convincing, though I really wanted him to win even without G shout. but I think ,it was needed to to show RM n g doubt on his intention more n without G's presence it was not possible.

I hope this time Ranaj is playing own game by accepting his friendship, as he did not look so convening by Avdesh drama , I still feel he should not accept the friendship ,but here looks again CV going by BRM dialog like Ranaji goodness will be the reason of loosing his own blood , but CVs going wrong here, they should create passion not MU, I was thinking they will show possessive n protecting after knowing his interest in G but its look they are going to show MU n Avdesh is going to use Evil trio to separate Raga.
Edited by alovi_21 - 9 years ago

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