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Posted: 9 years ago
Probably true that Sid gets to do more than other male leads but by his interviews I do get the feeling that he is not happy with the way Ranaji's character is shaping up even though he seems to say it in jest and especially given that they showed Ranaji a lot more instinctive, proactive and shrewd at the beginning. I am just wondering how long before and if it becomes a major cause of frustration for him, he did mention in one of his interviews that he gets bored easily.
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BertieWooster


I wholeheartedly agree...any other man would have looked weak..!

I liked the fact that he did not meet Avdesh's histrionics with much more than a smirk...! He did not have to raise his voice or shout back!


Exactly - I actuallyappreciatedthe calmness and not shouting back. I made another post on what was all that screaming for?
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Posted: 9 years ago
Sorry Guys. I think I will not be able to take this new guy's dialogue delivery . I am travelling and not able to watch the show but tried catching up with today's episode. I will have a hard time watching the new entry!
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Posted: 9 years ago
I saw that antagonist stake a claim to the throne and said to myself, "Yet another coronation ceremony!?!"

I must say that I was not happy with Gayatri's interjections during the confrontation outside the palace. The address to the antagonist asking him to climb down would have come better from Rajmata.

And Gayatri's reply that her husband didn't need her prayers and that she would pray for the antagonist that he be saved from her husband's wrath! If your husband does not need your prayers or divine assistance, why sit at the prayer-service by his side in the first place? And why go to the idol or invoke her and seek assistance at regular intervals?

The creatives need to pay attention to such nuances.

Rani Gayatri Devi really does need to learn when to hold her counsel. Perhaps, the CVs can provide the triumverate a separate room instead of the hall for political discussions. Or is it because the hall also hosts the thrones that all political discussions take place in the hall? Anyways, Rajmata, please hire someone to tutor her in royal etiquette, if you don't want to do it yourself.

And what's with Gayatri caling her husband a fool in public? And by "public" I mean any circumstance where the twain are not alone?

Though I am not quite certain, I am giving the benefit of doubt and hoping that she used the word "loquacious" was used to describe the villain.

Ranaji was right in asking whether Gayatri lacked faith in him. She does indeed! Perhaps, she didn't mean it the way she said it. But her words and her tone were wrong, indicating a lack of faith! She is not a revered elderly chief counsel who could get away with such words and tone. And he is not a prince in training under her. And, no, it is not because she is a woman. Had Bhanu uttered the same words in the same tone, I would have made the same observations.

One mitigating factor. She had seen the antagonist's fighting skills (even if not his fencing skills) at close quarters. That does provide the foundation for her apprehensions. Had they shown how the antagonist fought unfairly during that rescue, it would have provided a better background to her misgivings. Nevertheless, diplomacy. She needs to learn that too!

She has (and the creatives have) to remember that he fought in the trenches with his men during the Second World War. The soldiers of the Axis powers would not have observed the rules and niceties of warfare. And he survived.

Could not a King have discerned the character of the antagonist from his behaviour? It would have been so much better had Ranaji uttered those misgivings about the antagonist not fighting a fair fight and asked for their prayers whilst he fought against this new adversary.

I am hoping that her dialogue about the hands that wear bangles taking up the sword remains just that -- a dialogue.

In all the shows that I have watched, I have not tended to critically review the actions of the female lead as I have of Rani Gayatri Devi. Perhaps, 'tis because, in those shows, they were all commoners and I expect different standards from the Royal Consort and a more assertive role for the King.

Would the Kunwars want Ranaji to be defeated by the antagonist at this moment? Surely not. Neither Kunwar Chacha nor Lakshyaraj seem capable of fighting a duel to win the Crown. And neither Kunwar Chachi nor Swarnalekha will step into their shoes (unlike Gayatri) and challenge the antagonist to a duel. At most, the Kunwars can rely on Wilkinson to come up with the trump card of de-recognition of or relinquishment by the antagonist's forefathers of the right to the throne. Yes, they are likely to ally with the antagonist in the future and use him to get rid of Ranaji and Gayatri. But perhaps not now. How will they claim the throne if another family wins the right to the throne in a duel?

So, here's to hoping that Ranaji wins the battle, despite the unfair tactics that may be used by the antagonist. I think he will spare the antagonist's life because he had saved the life of his Queen (jaan ki jaan) -- a debt that needs to be repaid. So the next time they meet, there will be no mercy.

@ Wooster and Najat: Ranaji speaks in nods to the antagonist too! Those nods are not reserved for his beloved.😆

PS: There is a spoiler picture of Ranaji tied to a tree. Not again!
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Posted: 9 years ago
The new guy has pretty eyes and hair really! But that is it. Im already eager for his exit. No need to shout when Ranaji is 50 cm away from you.

Don't you have faith/trust in me? Hmmm No Ranaji, even i don't.
One of the things i really hate when it gets mentioned and in Ranaji's case it eventuallly means that he will act based on what Gayatri/RM say or do. He said it too regarding the Sula s/l, and only made things really clear after Gayatri had enough of it. Unless CV surprise us off course. But i don't have much faith in them either.

We all know its not about Gayatri not really trusting him, but the villain is the problem. Why randomly go into a fight with no plan? Off course Ranaji feels attacked without wondering.
But maybe Ranaji needs to spread his wings, and Gayatri should just say nothing. Ow and Gayatri.. don't lie about not praying for Ranaji. She does it regularly! Am i watching the same show?
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: arshisfan

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">@ Gul

Here are the 4 performances of Siddhant and DD

Raga's performance on Main hoon hero tera</font>

http://vid.me/T4cW

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Gayatri's performance on Deewani Mastani</font>

http://vid.me/cnqe

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Gayatri's performance on Prem Ratan Daan Payo</font>

http://vid.me/liCw

<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">Ranaji's performance on Bang Bang (funny to say it's Ranaji, rather Sid though I know Ranaji is no less talented but hip hop dance wasn't in vogue in the 1940😆)</font>

http://vid.me/zeAY

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Random musings


Zee Rishtey awards

A big ceremony, lot of efforts have been made to make it larger than life with aerial acts etc.., gotta give them that, they should be careful with the script and the dialogues though, some of them are very suggestive and besharmi ki hight!

Performances by all stars were really nice and enjoyable, the performance by Siddhart and Roshni from Jamai Raja, I don't think it's an appropriate performance for an awards ceremony which will be watched by families on sunday night in the prime time, Raga's performance was way more classy (I would still cut two moves from it 😆)! I mean the other one was definitely not about love but rather about libido!

I don't think these people are stupid, at least the ones who wrote the script for anchors! I mean it was a parody where many things were criticized in a funny way but under the comic facade to make people laugh there were some relevant points to ponder on



Sid and DD looked out of this world, a gorgeous couple, their attires were really classy, tuxedo with a red bow and a red saree. Even while joking Sid had the royal posture of Ranaji!!! he looked classy and handsome even in the funny parts!


Sid looked handsome and cool in his casual look in the song Bang Bang
DD always beautiful

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<font face="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif">On this note I think I should tell for whomever might care (Dear Sim mainly who is the one who braked my first break🤗) that I'll take a break from ETR2 Forum, I have some important work to do which is the main reason, also forum is time consuming, I end up writing essays!!! and I also feel like I'm just repeating myself!! Forum also isn't that active, sometimes people seem desinterested, and at times you feel like you just waste your time!
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Have nice time, hope we interact soon! 😊</font>



Thanku Naj, u're th best :-)
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: anobserver

I saw that antagonist stake a claim to the throne and said to myself, "Yet another coronation ceremony!?!"

I must say that I was not happy with Gayatri's interjections during the confrontation outside the palace. The address to the antagonist asking him to climb down would have come better from Rajmata.

And Gayatri's reply that her husband didn't need her prayers and that she would pray for the antagonist that he be saved from her husband's wrath! If your husband does not need your prayers or divine assistance, why sit at the prayer-service by his side in the first place? And why go to the idol or invoke her and seek assistance at regular intervals?

The creatives need to pay attention to such nuances.

Rani Gayatri Devi really does need to learn when to hold her counsel. Perhaps, the CVs can provide the triumverate a separate room instead of the hall for political discussions. Or is it because the hall also hosts the thrones that all political discussions take place in the hall? Anyways, Rajmata, please hire someone to tutor her in royal etiquette, if you don't want to do it yourself.

And what's with Gayatri caling her husband a fool in public? And by "public" I mean any circumstance where the twain are not alone?

Though I am not quite certain, I am giving the benefit of doubt and hoping that she used the word "loquacious" was used to describe the villain.

Ranaji was right in asking whether Gayatri lacked faith in him. She does indeed! Perhaps, she didn't mean it the way she said it. But her words and her tone were wrong, indicating a lack of faith! She is not a revered elderly chief counsel who could get away with such words and tone. And he is not a prince in training under her. And, no, it is not because she is a woman. Had Bhanu uttered the same words in the same tone, I would have made the same observations.

One mitigating factor. She had seen the antagonist's fighting skills (even if not his fencing skills) at close quarters. That does provide the foundation for her apprehensions. Had they shown how the antagonist fought unfairly during that rescue, it would have provided a better background to her misgivings. Nevertheless, diplomacy. She needs to learn that too!

She has (and the creatives have) to remember that he fought in the trenches with his men during the Second World War. The soldiers of the Axis powers would not have observed the rules and niceties of warfare. And he survived.

Could not a King have discerned the character of the antagonist from his behaviour? It would have been so much better had Ranaji uttered those misgivings about the antagonist not fighting a fair fight and asked for their prayers whilst he fought against this new adversary.

I am hoping that her dialogue about the hands that wear bangles taking up the sword remains just that -- a dialogue.

In all the shows that I have watched, I have not tended to critically review the actions of the female lead as I have of Rani Gayatri Devi. Perhaps, 'tis because, in those shows, they were all commoners and I expect different standards from the Royal Consort and a more assertive role for the King.

Would the Kunwars want Ranaji to be defeated by the antagonist at this moment? Surely not. Neither Kunwar Chacha nor Lakshyaraj seem capable of fighting a duel to win the Crown. And neither Kunwar Chachi nor Swarnalekha will step into their shoes (unlike Gayatri) and challenge the antagonist to a duel. At most, the Kunwars can rely on Wilkinson to come up with the trump card of de-recognition of or relinquishment by the antagonist's forefathers of the right to the throne. Yes, they are likely to ally with the antagonist in the future and use him to get rid of Ranaji and Gayatri. But perhaps not now. How will they claim the throne if another family wins the right to the throne in a duel?

So, here's to hoping that Ranaji wins the battle, despite the unfair tactics that may be used by the antagonist. I think he will spare the antagonist's life because he had saved the life of his Queen (jaan ki jaan) -- a debt that needs to be repaid. So the next time they meet, there will be no mercy.

@ Wooster and Najat: Ranaji speaks in nods to the antagonist too! Those nods are not reserved for his beloved.😆

PS: There is a spoiler picture of Ranaji tied to a tree. Not again!



@bold

Well...the beloved speaks for him as well almost all the time...so the poor guy has to make do with nods...!

I do not want a cowering, subservient FL...but I sure would like one who learns the art of diplomacy and tact...! She is still speaking to the King...in the context of the Avdesh situation, he is not just her husband..the war is not about her...

Will the writers ever get these nuances...have they ever heard of the phrase "respectfully disagree"?


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thanks for the caps, Shweta...nice to have you back 😊
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Posted: 9 years ago

Originally posted by: BertieWooster

@shwets

Thanks for the caps, Shweta...nice to have you back 😊


Thank You 🤗 Crazy schedule just bear with me .
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Posted: 9 years ago

I've not watched the epi yet. Pushing ETR to weekend watching, life got bit busy.

Going by the posts in the forum, guess Ranaji is caught between a villain who screams like a fishwife and a wife who preaches.

I'm glad they didn't make the villain RNJ's half-bro and left the elder Deo men untainted. He lacks legitimacy, but i don't see anything wrong in being ambitious to get back what grand-dad lost.
Lusting after the new King's wife is silly. 😆



@Shwets -thanks for the pics. RGD looks heavenly and RNj so handsome.

I think they are repeating RNJ's costumes too often, give that guy some new clothes CVs.

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