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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: amy.r

gud post...yeah the real essence of ema had gone to the drains bcos of the childish misunderstandings...but b4 the story moves forward that is if the rakhi marriage is really true, than first and foremost i want kalpi to giv a tight slap 2 raghav seeing that she is the one always slapped...and yeah one to pakhi too😡



@bold: Absolutely! Kalpi trusted Raghav with everything and he broke her heart. Actually I want Kamla to slap Raghav because he was the one who said he wouldn't marry Kalpi under any circumstances and promised to keep Kalpi happy. Now he has ruined the lives of both her daughters!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: mandu

It's so great to see your post on this forum.

I have always loved your posts earlier in the other forum and I for one am looking forward to seeing more posts from you.

All that you say does make sense to me and somewhere in the back of mind was kind of expecting this but as they say dreams and hopes die slowly and painfully

Having said this I do want to see the scenario you have explained so well .
Mandu



Aw, thanks! I am a sucker for a strong female lead and shows that are not only about romance. I really love the way they have constructed Kalpi's, and even Kamla's characters on EMA. In fact, Kamla and Vitthal's relationship is by far one of my favorite aspects of the show.

I know what you mean about hopes dying slowly. They build Raghav and Kalpi's romance up for so long and so convincingly, they put so many obstacles in its way that it seemed like they had to get married after it all. But for all of that, I think they made the better decision story-wise if Raghav does end up trapped into this thing (let's not call it a marriage) with Pakhi. There's more left to explore then.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: meena.mva

U r right...evn m eager to knw wat stuff pd has got to show bttr ...wat demand d story is at? Vl d upcoming twists make kalpi successful by fulfilling her mother's dream ? Vl raghav get his happiness n family atleast before his last breath? Vl neetu and sahil pay for evil acts?? If dis is leading to teach reality emotional n powerful characters further...then v cn watch



I am crossing my fingers for all the answers to your questions to be YES, YES, YES! 😆 Each of the characters have to go through much more pain and turmoil for the story to move forward in a way that continues to be gripping for viewers. I hope they take this opportunity to tell a good story!
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Posted: 11 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: shali

Samy...
And what an entry...
First post neh...
Yaar missed your analized...has been 2 year since geet...

Yes I want to see Kalpi getting her ek muthi asmaan...and on her own...no help for raghav...I have hope for Kamla being her support but like shana said...pookhi cant do anything wrong...and she will be crying buckets...cause in the end she might have gotten. Raghav...but not his pyar...

Raghav is the one to be blaimed for this hole mess...nothing can justify this step...coming to walking out...neh, have been watching this serial since the beginning...still find it intersting...but it killed the chemistry that has been build up in the last 3 months...

And my serial experience says: this twist will cost. Trp...

Wait I think I read a few analyzes off you in PV...but that show couldn't hold me...



Shali!!! So nice to see you after such a long time, and nice to be greeted by familiar faces on a new forum! 😃

I think you raise an interesting point about Kamla and Pakhi. What I have come to understand is that the difference in the way Kamla treated Pakhi and Kalpi was not out of a difference in love but a difference in expectations. For Pakhi, she was just performing a duty and making sure the girl did not turn out like her parents, that is, had some basic human decency and integrity. We can see that she succeeded that much in the difference between Prem and Pakhi. While Prem is an entitled, alcoholic good-for-nothing, Pakhi is among the top in her college and is a genuinely sweet girl, if a little clueless.

Kamla had much stronger expectations of Kalpi because she was her own daughter, whom she was free to mould in any way she chose. And she wanted to make her strong, beyond any manipulations that rich people might try on her. That was actually the justification for sending her to the hostile. Kamla could see that she herself was becoming a weakness for Kalpi and a reason for the latter to bow down in front of the Kapoors, which was the one thing she didn't want.

Am I saying that Kamla has been the perfect mother for Kalpi or Pakhi? NO! But she did her best with the resources that she had. I think it is only now that Kamla is going to realize the mistakes she made with Pakhi, especially. She didn't make her strong and sensible like she made Kalpi which is why Pakhi was ready to marry Raghav, just on the basis of her own conjecture that he was in love with her. Kalpi on the other hand, even when she knew Raghav loved her, waited to tell her parents until she knew that he was worthy of her and them.

At least that's how I hope it plays out, as a moment of realization for Kamla, that Pakhi is the one who needs work, not Kalpi.

About the TRPs, I see what you are saying but it could go either way. If they make the story strong from here, it will actually rise because the Raghav-Kalpi tension will be kept intact (In Ekta style). If you ask me, they should show a business rivalry between Raghav and Kalpi! 😉
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: marushkaa

Agreed ... even i wanted kalpi to get her ek mutthi aasmaan on her own... as being mrs. singhaniya wud always get her dat red carpet wherever she wud go ... now she can make a mark in d world as kalpana jadhav !!



Yes! It will mean all the more to her and her family if she can achieve her dreams with her own hard work and what her family was able to give her!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: sunyy

no you are not in minority now they need to bring back hardcore kalpi and have her kick rags a$$ as well as pakhi's. I want her to buy kapoor building like she dreamed and show these ppl who they have messed with. I think she should be shown leaving Mumbai and returning after a short leap of 6 mths. also in process have a stronger richer ally with her that is interested in her and biggest supporter and maybe new love interest. I hope she goes to those parties that rags talked about and looks way better than pakhi and everyone is talking about this beautiful successful business woman.



Yay! Glad to see I am not totally alone on this. 😃

Hardcore Kalpi, yes! I missed her so much and as much as I enjoyed the romance, I would actually get angry every time Raghav dragged Kalpi away from the office. I mean, he has already had the chance to prove himself, to make a name. Now it is supposed to be Kalpi's turn!

@Bold: I actually watched the first few post-leap episodes after I started watching the show and that moment especially, when Kalpi claims that she is a buyer, *sigh* I fell in love all over again and regretted the loss of that crazy, angst-ridden, consumed-with-revenge Kalpi to this love-struck, shy-shy one. One way they could have gone is to make this an issue in the Raghav-Kalpi marriage, but I think this way is better. More possibilities.

I love your idea of a leap, btw. A montage that shows Kalpi gaining new heights at a different company (i.e. making many power point presentations to a wonderstruck audience, shaking hands, signing papers), a caption that says 6 months later, and BAM Kalpi in a powersuit enters with her entourage to some electric guitar music... Kamla's tiffin in hand, of course! Loving it!
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: ANewFan

I beg to differ.. everything you have said could have been possible with Ragna marriage too.. Why Rakhi.. that is not what EMA is about..!!!

and why do you think kalpi won't get her EMA becuase she marry Raghav.. She could do a lot more and portray a lot more...

Having a support does not mean you are weak...sorry am not curious to know what next if Rakhi is what has happened..




If we were talking about real life I would be in total agreement with you. Total agreement. Having support does not make you weak and of course women can chase their dreams even after marriage, given that they have a supportive spouse and family.

What my post was mainly concerned with though, is the storytelling aspect, for which it is wiser to keep Kalpi and Raghav apart for as long as possible. Unfortunately happy people don't make for very interesting viewing and it is undeniable that once two leads are married, it becomes harder and harder to sustain drama on a TV show. The audience wants to see them happy but happy also gets boring and it either goes into mindless comedy or contrived misunderstandings. Also, the couple becomes all the audience wants to see and that becomes taxing for the lead actors.

I am pretty sure Raghav and Kalpi are endgame; there is just more story to tell before they get there. What we have to hope is that the channel doesn't interfere in the story's logical path.
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Posted: 11 years ago
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Originally posted by: Hevati

Loved the analysis
But ... To be side tracked since February on a love story ... For all of us interpreting kalpi s ema as raghav ... For raghav to admit she is his ema ... To suddenly revert back to the real ema sounds confusing to not only us but reveals the confusion amongst the cv s
My biggest problem with the whole thing is - as a woman myself we automatically fall in love with the female lead - her character is built that way and I totally agree that kalpi needs to get her ema on her own - but I ve always wondered what her ema was - the minute she realised she's in love with raghav he really did become her ema
Anyways coming back to my problem - I've never liked a male lead so much in a tv show and ashish has done such a fabulous job on breathing life into raghav singhania - he is such an atypical male lead and I m simply in love with him
There can be no reason in the world for him to marry pakhi
- he doesn't like his mom
- he could care less what happens to her at the moment
- he knows vitthal didn't kill his dad
If they come up with kamala a dialogue that he dumped kalpi to make her stronger I would be terribly disappointed
Anyways I'm a raghav fan more than kalpi actually and it would be do suicidal to butcher his character like this -still Beleive it's ragna on Monday - let's see what's in store :)



Thanks for liking the analysis! I am totally with you on the mistake the CVs committed here. Since Feb. they have been pitching a totally Mills and Boone love story with little focus on the main plot of the show. But, maybe it's just me, I never thought that Raghav was Kalpi's EMA. I always thought that that was still her and Kamla's dream to see her become a memsahib and achieve great things professionally, which is what she has been working for her whole life. I kind of just thought she would aim to achieve it along with her marriage to Raghav.

I totally love Raghav too, but just as I have been missing the old Kalpi, I have also been missing the old Raghav. Lover-boy Raghav is adorable no doubt, but in many ways I felt like he was just brushing a lot of his issues aside in his obsession with Kalpi. He kept saying she was going to change him which made me feel like he saw her as the "cure" to his bitterness. That in itself for me was a red flag in their relationship. Like I said, I think they have a little way to go before they are ideal companions for one another.

As for Raghav and his mother, from what I understood, he wants to hate her but actually ends up missing her all the time. If he found out that she had lost her memory and that she was staying with the Jadavs all this time, I can see how the Kapoors could spin that to reflect negatively on Kalpi and her family.

Boy will I feel stupid if this whole Raghav-Pakhi marriage thing turns out to be a hoax! 😆
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Posted: 11 years ago
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love ur post..such posts give some hope for the show..but my whole problem with this track is the sheer illogical thinking going on.

First and foremost I cannot believe Raghav can be manipulated, even for his mother. Coz giving Raghav his mother back means the end for the Kapoors. Raghav will figure in a minute that Kapoors are behind his mother's state of health. he ad never trusted the kapoors and destroying them is his sole aim of life. So Kapoors will never give Raghav back his mother. Also by now they know that raghav loves Kalpi and not their daughter. He's already their enemy and when they know that he does not love her, why would they force him to marry her. Coz all she will get is an unhappy existence and no ways is Raghav ever going to help them. In fact he would definitely torture Paaakhi in order to harm the Kapoors . So they won't go that way...

Even if they convince Raghav that Jadhavs are responsible for his mother's state , how can that justify marrying Paakhi? I can understand his breaking off with Kalpi, but why marry Pookie?
And he will never believe it as he has seen for himself how kamla got hurt trying to save Tai's life and also how kalpi stayed the whole night in the hospital with her? he was also suspicious of neetu helping out at the hospital so I cannot believe this track either...

No , I think its just a sick joke being played by Raghav but if its true then I wish Kalpi does marry Sammy. Coz then Raghav will know the pain of losing both his best friend and his love.

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Posted: 11 years ago
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Boy will I feel stupid if this whole Raghav-Pakhi marriage thing turns out to be a hoax!

@Sam...I will too...
But it will be a sick joke...
Comming to Kalpi..
Well I do want her to achieve her EMA... And never consider Raghav to be her EMA...Kalpi has always been a fighter...with dignity...and how much this will kill her...I want her to let Raghav and pookhi go after a thight slap across their face (ek thappar to banta hai)...and wishing them the very best in their married life...

If kamla doesnt choose kalpi his time I want Kalpi to walk out off that house...or Kamla can shift her tu her pyari beti pookhi...6 month leap would be wonderful with showing Kalpi almost gaining everything...but I dont wish to see raghav being a part off it or the source behind it...he can have his separate dook bari kahani...

Though I love their chemistry...I dont belief in that one ultimate love...that is something in love to read in a mills and boons story...real life showed me there are different relations we go through in life...all will have their own importance... Though that one feeling will always remain with that one person...So I for kalpi I wish to find a new relation ...and her Muthi asmaan...

Coming to Raghav...just love this character but nothing can justify his step for hurting Kalpi...he already had enough chances to walk out...so getting blackmailed doesnt sound logical...he isnt a man to go weak...cause his only weakness is Kalpi...so why marry pookhi al sudden...as I said it will be a sick joke if they are playing a prank...


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