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Posted: 9 years ago
#31

Originally posted by: Dreamer-89

A wonderful post 👏 Shravan the man he is today is the amalgamation of the mera beta and the tera beta for me it's not that one upbringing has overcome the other

For me Shravan the man he is today despite the glaringly obvious fault that we are seeing these is still a gem of a person despite the tug of war between the two equally faulty individuals Ramnath and Nirmala and credits for the good in him I'll say goes to The Tiwaris specifically Sumo and Nanu he's considered more a family member there than in his own house classic example when Pushku won a case Shravan stood at the threshold looking longingly to be part of the family was one heartbreaking moment he calls the Tiwari killa his home during Khosla times. 😭

If you ask me neither of the parents deserve to be part of his life He's an adult took care of himself the years he was away in London and now Nirmala and Ramnath need not play house house with him All he needs and deserves is a closure to the abandonment that he felt when Nirmala walked out!!

The questions that still keep tormenting him is was I not worth staying back? am I not worthy of love? Am I not important enough for you?? And finally Don't you feel that you have done a grave mistake as a mother who claimed to love for almost 17/18 years of my life? 😭

I'm in the minority of people who believe an Aditya was not required to be introduced as the step brother to prove Nirmala's upbringing better than Ramnath's because once again Nirmala only gave her parvarish to Shravan Malhotra her own flesh and blood not Aditya Ahuja because She entered Adityas life when he was around 16/17 by then his upbringing was completed the only thing Nirmala who as an outsider who's not even Ahujas legal wedded wife she was just an employee cum good friend to chomus dad could have guided chomu but with limitations due to the framework of their relationship that's why she hates ruffling his feathers like yesterday when he badmouthed about Shravan she didn't argue kept mum 🤢

Here the parents care for Shravan that's why Nirmala approached Ramnath by initiating the conversation but their love for him is buried under their egos and Blame game saga
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Sorry this became too long 😆


well said... each and every word is so true
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Posted: 9 years ago
#32
Beautiful interplay of words and a superb post
How well does Nirmala really know the grown Shravan When She says she knows Shravan will hurt himself in the process of arranging sumans wedding- is it her instinct? Because she certainly has not witnessed Shravans pain or his anger after Adityas declaration to marry Suman. Will she allow her instinct to get into action and try and rectify the current situation to save Shravan?

The Shravan of today is the aftermath of the Ramnaths-Nirmala broken marriage, a teen who was left with deep entrenched trust issues and coloured thoughts of women beyond repair which have grown over time. Ramanth obviously is the bigger culprit between the parents because he passed on his bitterness and hatred stemming from his failed marriage to his only son. When the son tried to build a life of happiness and love with his best friend he ensured that this would not happen

Nirmala is also a culprit because she chose the cowards way out and ran away without realising to the fullest extent the impact of her abandonment had on her son and instead gave all her love and care to Aditya.

The tera beta/ Mera beta is something which will continue till Ramnaths truth is not revealed because there will be times when either of the 2 will surface. The overpowering of one over the other, the good over the bad/weak will happen only once Shravan understands Nirmalas truth and fixes his misconceptions


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Posted: 9 years ago
#33
Beautiful post Chick ! In the end it does boil down to "Tera beta and Mera beta"
As if their separation was not painful enough, Nirmala chose not to come back and Ramnath chose to poison his mind. Talk about bad parenting 😡
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Posted: 9 years ago
#34

Originally posted by: Dreamer-89

A wonderful post 👏 Shravan the man he is today is the amalgamation of the mera beta and the tera beta for me it's not that one upbringing has overcome the other

For me Shravan the man he is today despite the glaringly obvious fault that we are seeing these is still a gem of a person despite the tug of war between the two equally faulty individuals Ramnath and Nirmala and credits for the good in him I'll say goes to The Tiwaris specifically Sumo and Nanu he's considered more a family member there than in his own house classic example when Pushku won a case Shravan stood at the threshold looking longingly to be part of the family was one heartbreaking moment he calls the Tiwari killa his home during Khosla times. 😭

If you ask me neither of the parents deserve to be part of his life He's an adult took care of himself the years he was away in London and now Nirmala and Ramnath need not play house house with him All he needs and deserves is a closure to the abandonment that he felt when Nirmala walked out!!

The questions that still keep tormenting him is was I not worth staying back? am I not worthy of love? Am I not important enough for you?? And finally Don't you feel that you have done a grave mistake as a mother who claimed to love for almost 17/18 years of my life? 😭

I'm in the minority of people who believe an Aditya was not required to be introduced as the step brother to prove Nirmala's upbringing better than Ramnath's because once again Nirmala only gave her parvarish to Shravan Malhotra her own flesh and blood not Aditya Ahuja because She entered Adityas life when he was around 16/17 by then his upbringing was completed the only thing Nirmala who as an outsider who's not even Ahujas legal wedded wife she was just an employee cum good friend to chomus dad could have guided chomu but with limitations due to the framework of their relationship that's why she hates ruffling his feathers like yesterday when he badmouthed about Shravan she didn't argue kept mum 🤢

Here the parents care for Shravan that's why Nirmala approached Ramnath by initiating the conversation but their love for him is buried under their egos and Blame game saga
😡
Sorry this became too long 😆


Benna,
Lovely post...

@underlined - True that...

@bold...Benna...I think the jury is still out on that...I don't think the intention of the track is to show up this aspect...because if that is the case...the responsibility for moving away from Shravan's life is Nirmala's too...so it would anyway not be an apt comparison. For instance, if it is to be said that Aditya's upbringing or "being sorted" (the word he used) is a result of Nirmala being a carer after aditya was more than 16 years old...by the same yardstick, she moving away from Shravan at that impressionable age can be attributed to her directly. So in effect, she remains culpable for Shravan's situation so if the narrative takes that view...its a flawed reasoning. Aditya has not shown any stellar qualities that I can conclude. So not sure it will make sense to compare the two where the person being bestowed with the credit of great mothering skills has actually contributed to her son being "the bad apple".

So I don't think the narrative is focussing on that...To me it is still highlighting that the parents have erred and are yet to realise the gravity of their error. One parent who has passed on his insecurities to his ward and the other parent by leaving things to fate and not taking accountability for her actions. Hopefully they do not try to cut one to increase the stature of the other...as happened with Shravan already..😉

As regards the Aditya entry...why it had to be aditya, Nirmala's foster son...and not any other third wheel. Aditya's relation to Nirmala exacerbates Shravan's sufferings. Till Shravan did not know of that relation, painful though it was, Aditya was a person who had displaced him from the pride of place he presumed he occupied in Sumo's life. However, knowing that Aditya was Nirmala's son brought that pain far closer to home...it pierced his being and he had to deal with new waves of pain...of how Sumo and Nirmala have been unmindful of his suffering!!


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Posted: 9 years ago
#35

Originally posted by: sanfan


Absolutely true if we are talking of this in the real context.😆😆

Right at the start of the serial, I said that if this was a real story...rest assured there is no cure for the beta or beti (also) here except clinically...Love ain't cure anything..😉

But then it is reel that we are talking of...a premise...that the creator has built his/her story on!!
Also, this is why I feel the makers must restrict this to "creatively" believable premise...(i know that sounds oxymoronic) becos beyond a point, people will question the narrative...


But where does love cure anything here?

To me it feels like it is about two people getting to know each other better...and how they help each other..It is about growing up together...that does feel real for me.😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
#36

Originally posted by: chicksoup


But where does love cure anything here?

To me it feels like it is about two people getting to know each other better...and how they help each other..It is about growing up together...that does feel real for me.😊


Love does not cure...😆 it only complicates and we get into that quagmire..happily.😉 Ah all the world loves a lover...😉
@bold Absolutely...that is where the Twain meet.!! The Reel and Real!! and so we connect!!

and that is where also comes in my comment. As viewers, it is difficult at some point to not bring in one's sensibility while reacting to reel content...which is why I said that the threshold needs to be balanced...not made macabre.Its just a reaction to how I see Shravan in one of the epis...but thats a personal view...U know I am not a big fan of redemption stories which see only one side of the coin. I expect both of them to grow as individuals...which i am sure will happen...

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Posted: 9 years ago
#37

Originally posted by: beagleboy


Beautiful, Beagle.👏
I agree with the feminism part of this ..but I am still not sure whether I'd call Nirmala a feminist. She walked out on Ramnath finally NOT BECAUSE HE ASKED HER TO STOP WORKING, but because he seemed convinced she was having a relationship with Ahuja. He was telling her he would accept her back if she stopped meeting Ahuja.The day Shravan accuses Suman of something like this, she'd LOSE respect for him too...whether she'd desert him and their child for the same reason is a different thing. Ramnath was not a wife beater..Agreed, Nirmala found it impossible to live with his constant nagging...but I feel she should have stuck around for the child.

As for Nirmala calling Ramnath a good father- I agree with her partly there. She meant in the materialistic aspect. Because in those circumstances, Ramnath had done the next best thing for his son, even though he himself had been struggling..he had only started earning. But he had made sure Shravan would get the very best...and the fact is, if it had not bee for what happened 10 years ago, Shravan would be a happier man but a little less successful in the eyes of the world.

Actually this is a better deal for me, because he spent those ten years focusing on his studies because he had a point to prove...to Suman...Ramnath provided him with the opportunities and he utilised it to the max. If he is broken now, he will pick up himself and mend himself for his Suman...

Had he stayed back then , he would still be good but not this focused or this SUCCESSFUL. ( I am not saying one needs an Oxford degree to do well in life, but the tag helps, so does the drive.)

So at the end of it, Shravan would be a wholesome person, no matter what games destiny played with him.😳

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Posted: 9 years ago
#38

Originally posted by: sanfan


Benna,
Lovely post...

@underlined - True that...

@bold...Benna...I think the jury is still out on that...I don't think the intention of the track is to show up this aspect...because if that is the case...the responsibility for moving away from Shravan's life is Nirmala's too...so it would anyway not be an apt comparison. For instance, if it is to be said that Aditya's upbringing or "being sorted" (the word he used) is a result of Nirmala being a carer after aditya was more than 16 years old...by the same yardstick, she moving away from Shravan at that impressionable age can be attributed to her directly. So in effect, she remains culpable for Shravan's situation so if the narrative takes that view...its a flawed reasoning. Aditya has not shown any stellar qualities that I can conclude. So not sure it will make sense to compare the two where the person being bestowed with the credit of great mothering skills has actually contributed to her son being "the bad apple".

So I don't think the narrative is focussing on that...To me it is still highlighting that the parents have erred and are yet to realise the gravity of their error. One parent who has passed on his insecurities to his ward and the other parent by leaving things to fate and not taking accountability for her actions. Hopefully they do not try to cut one to increase the stature of the other...as happened with Shravan already..😉

As regards the Aditya entry...why it had to be aditya, Nirmala's foster son...and not any other third wheel. Aditya's relation to Nirmala exacerbates Shravan's sufferings. Till Shravan did not know of that relation, painful though it was, Aditya was a person who had displaced him from the pride of place he presumed he occupied in Sumo's life. However, knowing that Aditya was Nirmala's son brought that pain far closer to home...it pierced his being and he had to deal with new waves of pain...of how Sumo and Nirmala have been unmindful of his suffering!!



Also from the narrative POV, Aditya being Nirmala's foster son distracts Nirmala from the real reason Shravan wanted to be a part of the wedding...it clouds her vision from the fact that Shravan loves Suman...She thinks he is doing all this only to get back at his mom.

Even I feel the highlight is on how both the parents have failed him.😊
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Posted: 9 years ago
#39

Originally posted by: sanfan


Love does not cure...😆 it only complicates and we get into that quagmire..happily.😉 Ah all the world loves a lover...😉
@bold Absolutely...that is where the Twain meet.!! The Reel and Real!! and so we connect!!

and that is where also comes in my comment. As viewers, it is difficult at some point to not bring in one's sensibility while reacting to reel content...which is why I said that the threshold needs to be balanced...not made macabre.Its just a reaction to how I see Shravan in one of the epis...but thats a personal view...U know I am not a big fan of redemption stories which see only one side of the coin. I expect both of them to grow as individuals...which i am sure will happen...


@ Bold- So do I.😉
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Posted: 9 years ago
#40

Originally posted by: Fernweh

Beautiful interplay of words and a superb post

How well does Nirmala really know the grown Shravan When She says she knows Shravan will hurt himself in the process of arranging sumans wedding- is it her instinct? Because she certainly has not witnessed Shravans pain or his anger after Adityas declaration to marry Suman. Will she allow her instinct to get into action and try and rectify the current situation to save Shravan?

The Shravan of today is the aftermath of the Ramnaths-Nirmala broken marriage, a teen who was left with deep entrenched trust issues and coloured thoughts of women beyond repair which have grown over time. Ramanth obviously is the bigger culprit between the parents because he passed on his bitterness and hatred stemming from his failed marriage to his only son. When the son tried to build a life of happiness and love with his best friend he ensured that this would not happen

Nirmala is also a culprit because she chose the cowards way out and ran away without realising to the fullest extent the impact of her abandonment had on her son and instead gave all her love and care to Aditya.

The tera beta/ Mera beta is something which will continue till Ramnaths truth is not revealed because there will be times when either of the 2 will surface. The overpowering of one over the other, the good over the bad/weak will happen only once Shravan understands Nirmalas truth and fixes his misconceptions



Yes, both the parents are equally responsible for who he is today.

In every aspect..If Nirmala loved her son, so did Ramnath...just that he really thought it was better for Shravan not to get influenced by his wife's wayward behaviour. Even now, what he is doing is not for his selfish gain...he is just doing what he believes would be the best for his son.

As also with the education..If Ramnath showed him the way, Nirmala's action (along with Suman's) gave him the focus and resolve.

That way, I'd call them equally responsible for who Shravan is now.

And...Probably Ramnath just got to know his son/ her son/ their son a little better now...😉

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