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Posted: 9 years ago
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I know that this forum right now seems to be divided with Sumo's and Shravan's followers... I've a really conflicting question that whether Shravan's anger on Sumo is really valid?? Did she cheat him? Did she break her promise? Did she ever confess that she loves him? Did she ever really give any hint that she's gonna be only his? There's only one answer indefinitely and its a NO...

I myself suffered through the same situation which the leads pass through but I was always almost sure about my one-sided love (for my BFF) that it wouldn't culminate into a relationship. I was perfectly ok loving him by myself even though I never had any hope. I thought its just natural to love a friend when I love my family. I'm a very practical person and never had any illusions.

I'm unable to connect with Shravan while I can with Sumo as he seems to be unable to face the harsh reality while she chose to face it. He lives impractically while she seems to live practically. Her saying that she would consider Adi's alliance as an arranged marriage is a proof of it while he inspite of inhibiting the plan of hating her forever (in her mind) wants her to wait for him. Betrayal, this strong emotion wasn't in Sumo while it was in Shravan.

I do know that Shraman are the end but I'm just unable to connect with the ML character created by CV's. I'm most worried about forced-marriage now as it would just show him more impractical that his stubborn attitude would correct his life. I would love to watch the show if atleast now he decides to face the reality and uncover the truth around him... Why ain't he feeling odd when there're so many unreasonable things going on around him?? ML please use your Oxford brain.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Sorry i disagree...theirs is not one sided love...both of them love each other and some where the bank of their love for each other..both admit that they love each other. The only problem is that they have not uttered in words but in action they have shown they love each other sumo once during ramu false plane crash and shravan on many occasions...so it is not case of kne sided love...shravan is justified in feeling betrayed...the same way sumo would feel if shravan would have agreed to marry some one else...i can emphayise with shravan but not sumo
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Joyness

Sorry i disagree...theirs is not one sided love...both of them love each other and some where the bank of their love for each other..both admit that they love each other. The only problem is that they have not uttered in words but in action they have shown they love each other sumo once during ramu false plane crash and shravan on many occasions...so it is not case of kne sided love...shravan is justified in feeling betrayed...the same way sumo would feel if shravan would have agreed to marry some one else...i can emphayise with shravan but not sumo


Words unsaid can't be taken for granted... their affection and care was also seen by all the family members and was just considered as friendship... all those care and affection which depicted love that they had for each other can also be between two friends, they weren't in any romantic relationship
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Posted: 9 years ago
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well said.
Shravan wants to have the perks and rights of the lover under the pretext of friendship.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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They both are aware one loves the other although they have not said it to each other.

But that said, I too would love for Shravan to dust his lawyer gown and be back to his sharp oxford returned lawyer self than the brooding wallowing in self pity kind.

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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: --Amulya--

I know that this forum right now seems to be divided with Sumo's and Shravan's followers... I've a really conflicting question that whether Shravan's anger on Sumo is really valid?? Did she cheat him? Did she break her promise? Did she ever confess that she loves him? Did she ever really give any hint that she's gonna be only his? There's only one answer indefinitely and its a NO...

I myself suffered through the same situation which the leads pass through but I was always almost sure about my one-sided love (for my BFF) that it wouldn't culminate into a relationship. I was perfectly ok loving him by myself even though I never had any hope. I thought its just natural to love a friend when I love my family. I'm a very practical person and never had any illusions.

I'm unable to connect with Shravan while I can with Sumo as he seems to be unable to face the harsh reality while she chose to face it. He lives impractically while she seems to live practically. Her saying that she would consider Adi's alliance as an arranged marriage is a proof of it while he inspite of inhibiting the plan of hating her forever (in her mind) wants her to wait for him. Betrayal, this strong emotion wasn't in Sumo while it was in Shravan.

I do know that Shraman are the end but I'm just unable to connect with the ML character created by CV's. I'm most worried about forced-marriage now as it would just show him more impractical that his stubborn attitude would correct his life. I would love to watch the show if atleast now he decides to face the reality and uncover the truth around him... Why ain't he feeling odd when there're so many unreasonable things going on around him?? ML please use your Oxford brain.


Yes! Totally agree with you. While I can understand Shravan's feelings of betrayal, he isn't justified to feel that way. After that PCT blowup and telling her he is ending the relationship... he doesn't really have a right to expect her to wait for him.

That's not to say I wouldn't wan't Suman to wait for him. But when Shravan himself made it clear that their relationship has ended. What does he expect her to do? Everyone wants Suman to fight to protect Shravan and protect their relationship... but when Shravan himself isn't fighting, when he isn't protecting Sumo, its a little unfair to place all the expectations on Sumo.

I guess I really feel for Sumo. In this arc the whole world's responsibility has been placed on Sumo's shoulders. Is she really going to put Nanu's life at risk to avoid giving Shravan a bit of temporary pain?
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Both the characters are vastly different. Shravan has always been emotionally vulnerable. He loved his mother and she left him, then Sumo was his only support and she also betrayed him at the worst possible time. It shook him bcos the very people he loved with all his heart and around whom his whole life revolved left him alone.
He is that type of person who may have only few people in his life but he loves them deeply.
Ramnath was his only support so all his love got transferred to his father.He became like a crutch to Shravan so that's y now also he cant bear to hear anything against him bcos when he needed someone the most it was his father who stood with him, not Sumo.
So many times he tried to forget Suman,hate her but he couldn't do so. She is buried in his heart and his love has only deepened with time and not diminished.
Right now he is again broken hearted bcos he had decided to give his love another chance but that didn't happen. It again got ripped away from him and again the person who did it was the girl he loved and lets not forget that Sumo is the one with all the facts whereas he is unaware of it.
Shravan's flaw is that his emotions always rule him.
About Sumo I don't want to say anything..i think majority of the people in the forum r aware about what's my stance on Sumo.. 😆
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Yes Amulya... I have thoughts similar to urs.
The only thing I can think of is jealousy and fear of losing Sumo is blinding Shravan. He is not ready to let her go for any reason this time. He would not want to go through what he went through in the 10 years without her... So irrespective of what she wants she has to be with him.

Sumo on her part is also giving him mixed signals like the night she came to him... but generally keeps her distance, thanks to Ramu. BBut Shravan knows nothing about that or Nanu.

His brain and heart will start functioning only when he has sumo officially by his side. The first thing to hit him would be Nanu blackmailing her to marry Adi against her wish. That would come out when the marriage breaks. Atleast this is the justification I have come up with... we need to wait and watch how this goes... all in cvs hands.

Right now my sympathies are with Sumo


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Thats quite an interesting perspective Amulya, And thanks to you for sharing it because it surely does make me feel less dissatisfied with Sumo. In a way you are very right. During the initial days it was always Shravan who dismissed the direct hints she gave him. He even went to the extent of trying to find an alliance for her. And later too he has always given her mixed signals only, with him juggling between being too possessive to being totally indifferent to her. And it surely must be too difficult for her to be sure of what he wants. Off lately too she has been quite hopeful of him trying to confess and even tried to pin him towards that but he didn't do it. And when she was expecting that he as a true friend will understand her unsaid feelings and try to help her indirectly giving due regard to her self-respect he totally shattered her hopes by dismissing her off his friendship. So in such a scenario she ought to feel more responsible and sure of only one persons love in this world and thats nanu. Which is why she chose nanu over Shravan. (though its stupid of her to not think of Aditya in this whole mess, but thats a different matter altogether)

In every way, Shravan does not ideally has a right to feel betrayed because neither she promised him any commitment of that sort nor he ever tried to give that security to her that she should stand tall and wait for him to proclaim his love on her.

In a way if Shravan feels betrayed by Sumo this is more to do with his expectations of her than Suman herself. I think thats his basic nature. He loves very few people but when he does he gives himself 100% to that person and expects the same in return. Nothing short works for him. Also he is someone who is very emotional so he expects the same from everyone. He is someone who believes in proving his love through actions rather than saying and even expects that the other person must understand the intentions behind his actions. He has most of the times been caring of her, has always take care of her needs, has been possessive of her and even made his feelings quite apparent by inviting her for the coffee. So even if he didnt say the 3 golden words but for him he has already given enough hints to her to understand. For him Sumo MUST be knowing that how much he loves her and if she still choses to marry Aditya she is kinda betraying his faith. Thats him and he has always been like that.

But at the end I must say reading your post I do feel equally pained for both of these now coz both are right as well as wrong on their places or better way to word it would be both are victims to the fangs of destiny, and its rather painful to see them like this.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Joyness

Sorry i disagree...theirs is not one sided love...both of them love each other and somewhere the bank of their love for each other..both admit that they love each other. The only problem is that they have not uttered in words but in action they have shown they love each other sumo once during ramu false plane crash and shravan on many occasions...so it is not case of kne sided love...shravan is justified in feeling betrayed...the same way sumo would feel if shravan would have agreed to marry some one else...i can emphayise with shravan but not sumo



The interesting point here is that it was Shravan that came and told Suman that there is "Nothing" left between them and that she has lost him for good. Now after he says that, Suman is STILL supposed to expect anything to happen between them?


My favorite character on the show is Shravan. But that does not mean I can't see when he is wrong. He has been led down the wrong path and he has been looking at everything Suman does with biased and judgmental eyes (How his Dad has taught him to do). So for that reason, he thinks Suman has failed some "Test" and went and broke all ties with her, without even telling her exactly what she has done? He insulted her in front of all her staff and she is still supposed to think everything will be fine between them? Suman knows that Shravan's Dad already dislikes her. So now that Shravan has played into his hands and broken all ties with her, what is she to do?


Her grandfather is sick and clearly very disturbed and in a highly sensitive state. She could see her agreement to marriage has made him feel better. So she agreed. What was she going to do? Tell him "I love Shravan Nanu, but he hates me, but I still won't marry anyone". I can imagine the reaction she would have received to that. She knows she can't tell her Grandfather that, because their relationship with the Malhotra's is very complicated now, with Preeti marrying into that family. End of the day, she has to be practical like TM said!


Yes, Shravan feels betrayed because he loves her. But is he justified in it? THAT is the question we are discussing. The truth is, if Suman broke ALL ties with Shravan, insulted him and called him a terrible person, and he agrees to marry someone else under duress, then would we STILL be saying Suman is justified in feeling betrayed? A valid question to ask ourselves!
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