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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...FieryPhoenix


Bingo. Loved your take on the entire situation especially the bolded bits. And bolded red, sooo effing true.

I think many of us evaluate the situation very superficially and ready to tag it right or wrong. But it's not that simple. Yes, it takes a great heart to forgive and move on. But at times, it's quite difficult to do so especially if one is scarred deeply. And the fact he never got any closure, his wounds kept getting deeper and deeper. So I have hard time tagging him wrong per se. And the same reason I have hard time warming up to Suman entirely.

What she did during school was bullying of a kind. Shravan was in love, so he held onto whatever he could get from Sumo without cribbing or complaining. But just cuz one doesn't speak up against the bully doesn't mean bullying is justified. It's not. Thus, it becomes really difficult to feel sorry for Sumo. What he did, stooping to her level, wasn't the solution. But I can't hold it against him given his past experiences with Sumo.

All in all, what he did was stooped to her level, which he didn't need to. He could have still avenged his insults just by being himself and ignoring her completely. Too bad, he's still not over his love for her, which is why he continues hurting. And the fact Sumo apologizes yet doesn't mean it (her words of her past mistake not being a big deal aka her ego), Shravan's wounds yet again started to bleed, which led to the entire fiasco.

So yeh, I really can't hold this incident against him cuz I can't judge just one incident in isolation without looking at the entire picture.

P.S: You got such maturity at a young age. Wish Sumo did too 😆


I couldn't agree more with you! You said everything! I know people may not agree with him humiliating her okay fine, but justifying what Sumo did 10 years back under the name of "innocence" is not ok either. It's like supporting bullying, cuz that's exactly what it was. Intentional or not. And just like you said, just because one doesn't speak up against the bully doesn't mean bullying is justified. People can't say that Shravan let it happen because of his love for her, so its his fault..what?!?!? I guess people don't know what bullying is really like, how scarring and damaging it can be.
And yeah its hard to feel sorry for Sumo right now because she never acknowledged the hurt she gave him. I did feel bad for her at the beginning but as the flashbacks came and more story got revealed, I felt less sorry and more upset with her. I know she's changed but she has to do a lot more to redeem herself honestly. And exactly, we have to look at the whole picture and not just this incident to understand where Shravan is coming from.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Shravan is a tortured soul. Hating him would be a strong word. Most of us if not all do not hate him. We only hate that incident where he humiliated Sumo in public. That was definitely wrong and I have not seen anyone doing so openly. Normally people pass a veiled insult or a snide remark here or there.. not plan a party purely to insult a person.

He could have achieved the same result in private. But that might have ended their love story in a happy way too soon.

Suman has already connected the dots about what Shravan feels. She does understand. But no one likes to be treated like that in public. But there are different ways that 2 people react to the same situation. We will see how Suman react. Shravan's action has had a far more severe implication on Suman, given the storm that is brewing in her home.. plus her debts. The fighter that she is, will end up fighting and winning. Shravan probably might learn to respect her and so on..
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Posted: 9 years ago
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I don't hate Shravan at all. I totally get what he did. But its tough not to feel bad when he plotted and planned a deliberate attack on Suman. But end of the day, maybe he DOES think that she is superficially liking him for the guy he is today, successful and hot.

So we need to give it the right amount of time for the dust to settle. Both these people have behaved badly now and have come to a even keel. Now its about how they deal with things going forward. I am looking forward to it.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: .SankaDevi.

Hey girl! Haha, can totally see you feel passionate about this topic! Don't worry I think most of us aren't hating on Shravan and can sort of understand where he's coming from. None of us support the way he did it, but I think most of us can see why.


I think what most people forget is what Suman had to deal with for one day, Shravan had to deal with for his entire life (that is, the entire duration of his friendship with Suman). He was always put back "in his place" as the geek who can't be seen with "the queen bee," denied the right of being a friend when they were in public, quasi-stood up at prom, and some of the bits and pieces of the flashback hint at some sort of past public humiliation for him as well.

Bachpana is not an excuse to make someone feel that horrible about themself. Unintentional the hurt may be, and even if on the surface young-Shravan acted like he was fine with the way she treated him, I don't think it takes a genius to figure out that treating someone that way probably somewhere does hurt them.

I'm saying this because I'm also in 12th grade right now, and maybe that's why I don't really seem to understand/completely see how Suman's behavior in the past is forgivable/can be written off as "bachpana." I think at this age, mujhe sahi/galat ka fark ache se nazar aata hai.

And if after all that Suman did, she was still "completely unaware" about hurting Shravan, then she was consciously being insensitive/choosing to look the other way when it comes to making that realization. And that realization was pushed off till it completely got lost in her memory, leading her to see her mistakes in the past as not a big deal ("itni bhi badi baat nahi thi"). She was fortunate enough to be able to cling onto the happy memories of their friendship, Shravan wasn't.

I don't have any ill feelings for the Suman of today because I absolutely love her, the only thing I just really want her to see is that admist being hurt about the tamaasha at the party, she takes into account how much she hurt Shravan (to the point where it caused such an extreme reaction from him) and reflects on that.


Just my two cents.

-Kriti ❤️


Kriti, Technically wrong about one point. Shravan would have known Sumo only for a couple of years... They seem to have met during their teens.. remember the cube incident? If he felt bad about being a nerd before that.. he has some childhood issues related to his family that has made him what he is...
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lyla.Khan


You just said her intentions weren't bad. So weren't Shravan's. He didn't do this to intentionally hurt her either. He simply stood up for his worth finally. He did this to show her exactly how he felt every day all those years, its only a glimpse of it. Her bindaas nature made someone feel SO terrible about themselves just for being who they were, constantly, everyday. You know what type of effect that can have on a person? I know she may not have meant it but it's like being emotionally and psychologically bullied by your own friend for so long. She may have done this in her immaturity but something like this stays with a person. You can't expect Shravan to just forget and forgive so fast, especially when she never even tried to truly makeup for it properly. If her heart was in the right place, she wouldn't be so unaware of her mistakes. She acted like what she did was never a big deal despite knowing how Shravan felt for her and how much he valued her. She never tried contacting him for 10 years, if she was ever sorry she would've. Yes he could've solved this issue in private, that would've been more mature, but I don't blame him for doing this either because he's blinded by 10 years of extreme hurt and anger right now and when people are this hurt/ angry they tend to act irrationally. I'm sure they'll realize and learn of each other's true intentions soon and mend their relationship from there. But I like that she finally has an idea of what she put him through.


Oops, He did do it intentionally to hurt her... it was very well planned and executed.

Shravan could have distanced himself from Sumo at school when she was so undeserving of his friendship. But he never did, infact, he fell in love with her. So blaming Sumo all the way is wrong. It is wrong to blame another person for problems that you face in life. There is this Indian saying, when you point one accusing finger, remember that the other 4 are pointing back at you. Life does not always go the way you want it to.. but we need to have the ability and flexibility to navigate the challenges that is thrown at us. This was and is lacking in Shravan, a typical symptom of the privileged class.

I am not saying Sumo is not wrong, she is and as a teenager, in her immaturity might have betrayed her friend and that definitely was wrong. We will get to see in the show how that kept haunting her for the 10 years...

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Posted: 9 years ago
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But he planned this whole thing out. The dress, bringing Urvashi as his date. In fact, the whole party was held for the sole purpose of getting back at her. There is a big difference between standing up for your worth and humiliating someone. One can be done without having to do the other. I never said I expect Shravan to forgive and forget because none of us know what happened on the day that he left India. I don't blame him for doing what he did. All I said was that I don't support it. I'm allowed to have my own opinion, right? 😆 There is more to their backstory than just Sumo ignoring him in school. Anyways, I still love Shravan as a character. There is so much depth to him. I'm looking forward to seeing where this new track takes us.

Spot on Pixie!!

@blue, exactly!! Humiliating is not required when confronting the issue would achieve a better solution.

@red, Yes, in reality, after that one incident, Shravan was so deeply hurt that he left. But, had he instead decided to stay on and ignore Sumo for a week or month and faced the problem, I would bet Sumo would have buckled and given in... The minute she lost him, realization would have hit her... like the past 10 years. It was his self esteem issues which made him think otherwise.

Sometimes its only when we loose people close to us that we realize their true worth. Till then we take them for granted. Happens all the time with our parents, spouse, kids etc.

INow, if Sumo also decides to leave for another 10 years we would have no story to tell 😆😆 However, she is a fighter, if she has got a taste of her own medicine with the public humiliation.

He is going to know what it feels like to loose a friend. So, in reality their roles have reversed 😉


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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: ...FieryPhoenix


That's exactly what is puzzling. I understand Shravan shouldn't have gotten involved with her or continued his friendship even after repeated neglect by her. But it happens. People in love or deep affection get carried away and they simply hold onto whatever they can get even if the receiving treatment is wrong. And that's exactly what happened with Shravan. He kept piling on the insults and hurt for the sake of his affection for Sumo. He never spoke up nor did he confront her for hurting him repeatedly. But all of that doesn't justify Sumo and her actions. Even if she was upfront with him regarding her so called image, it doesn't neglect the fact that her behavior was wrong.

So tomorrow a bully will be up front how he is bullying for so and so reason, doesn't make him less of a bully. S/he's still a bully regardless. And thus, I can't stuff her actions under the rug of "immaturity or young age". She was wrong. And even she should know how it feels when one is publicity mocked and humiliated like how he faced on several occasions when he was little.


So glad someone understands😊
There's no valid reason for justifying Suman's behaviour in the past. There just isn't.
I agree that fighting fire with fire only gets a bigger fire but sometimes you have to show people how badly they treated you since they cant seem to see that for themselves.
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Get a life? From where? Do we get it on lease or something? Please let me know..would be of immense help. 😳
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: rekha.366

kriti dear well said I have nothing to add. You know how much I written about this topic so I have nothing to written new. As I said maybe his way was wrong but not his intention. I think he really want to stand up for himself he couldn't able to do that in 10 years back.



Well said girls...i m totally agree with u girls...mene bhi iss topic PE pahele ki post me bhi reply diye hai so usne mene apne thoughts diye the...par haha PE likha Hua ek ek world meri feeling aur mere thoughts diku rage hai so I m totally agree with u girls
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Posted: 9 years ago
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Originally posted by: Lyla.Khan

<font size="2">People hating on Shravan for humiliating Sumo, get a life man. If only you knew how it feels to be used or rejected/ heart broken and still no closure for 10 years, maybe you'd understand how Shravan is justified in his anger/ hurt. They werent little kids back then they were graduating high school, thats not "kids" thats old enough to have a brain not to treat ppl like shit. Sumo only used Shravan and cared about her reputation more than him. She took him for granted for so long. Now that he's showing her how she treated him, he's bad? Come ON. It's called treating people the way they treat you to show them your worth. He's HURT for god's sake, more than some people clearly can't see. Sumo needed this reality check. How can you blame him? She deserves to feel how he felt ALL THOSE YEARS. How much she hurt him. This is nothing compared to how much hurt he went through. Let the makers do justice to the show and think before you hate.Of course they'll make up later on, but expect some conflict in the show. Also, he doesn't hate her...he's hurt, there's a difference. He still loves her, but he doesnt know how Sumo really feels now, so he's not at fault for misunderstanding, its what he's seen all these years. He will come to know of everything eventually but till then stop hating on him and enjoy the show! </font><font size="2">Can't wait for the next episode!</font>



I m agree with u dear...promo me jab mene dekha ke sumo bol rahi tho ki Vo mera bachpana tha tab bhi muje gussa aya tha abhi bhi usne realize nahi kiya ki usne shravan Ko acche treat nahi Kara..mere hisab se to suman ne usko friend hi nahi samja hai agar friend hota to Vo uske liye important hota naki uski reputation...suman Ko abhi bhi uski galti ka ahesaas nahi hai abhi bhi usko bachpana bol ke apne aap Ko Vo guilty nahi manti...promo se aese dikha raha hai abhi to jese episode dekhege vese hi pata chalege...kash suman Ko apni galti samaj me aajaye...aur Vo itni bhi chotti nahi thi ki usko samaj me nahi aye ke Vo shravan Ko kese treat kar rahi hai...bachpana bolke galti se Bach nahi sakte tab suman ki galti thi aur jo shravan party me Kara Vo sirf usko ahesaas dilane ke liye Kara hai ki jab aeaa hota hai to kesi feeling ati hai...abhi to sumo ne shravu ke letter ke sath kaya Kara hoga Vo to dekhna abhi baki hi hai...past ki story jese unfold hogi vese clear pic dikhega...teenage me ki Hui galti bhi galti hi hoti hai muje suman se yahi issue hai ki Vo apni galti man nahi rahi hai
Edited by kasaf - 9 years ago

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