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Kaushitaki

@Penkie06

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+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#11

I personally think that Shiv's character could have been a lot more intense, a whole lot different altogether when revealed, the way it was being shown initially,

His music, his lines, I still hope he does not remain only as a tragic lover only. These could have made his character altogether so different. I personally feel that even if he's only a tragic lover, the tragedy has failed to impact as much as it could have.

Maybe because they are trying to create so many mysteries that elements of true emotions, depth, intensity, are missing mostly on the side of the antagonists.

Vyom is another awkward and funny character as well, but still I find the element of intensity there. Not supporting criminal activities, I detested Maya mehrotra so much. But the story is so cliche again that things could have been a bit different on Shiv's side. At least the expressions of pain.

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557371

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Posted: 7 years ago

#12

Originally posted by: --BlackSheep--
Well I will respectfully disagree with this.At the end of the day it's a fictional show and fiction has endless possibilities.
Some spirits are portrayed as serious ones who don't laugh or shy away while others are portrayed differently.The portrayal of each spirit varies according to the story.
Take Casper as an example.Or the movie Ghost,Sam's spirit was cracking jokes,bickering with his medium and enjoying troubling his enemy even if he was a spirit.Sam even entered his medium's body and romanced his GF.
An example closer to home is that of Bhootnath where a ghost was laughing,having fun and even dancing😆
Basically everything depends on the story and how they portray the ghost.Some project them as scary and serious while others project them in a different light.
Therefore there is nothing odd in what Shiv is doing now coz it has been shown in several movies and shows before.

Also how is his character getting butchered if he romances Sharanya?He was her lover and it's their story.Again this is fiction where we have witnessed demons,wizards,naagins and vampires romancing humans.So what's the big deal with a ghost?😆

About Sharanya's characterization well it has been fickle since Day 1 but then the entire writing has been messed up since the beginning.Now atleast the story is moving somewhere with ShivAnya and the villainous Vyom.

My views on Vyom differ too.I don't feel that he is battling his psyche or his overprotective father.He is just a spoilt brat whose every whim was catered to by his father and as a result of that he turned out to be a murderer.I will give some credit to the criminal tendencies of the Bedis for that.Rajan is an abusive jerk and Vidyut was a creepy rapist.Vyom has both their traits along with his own murderous streak.So I don't see any originality in his character either.Everything which he is doing right now has been done already by some villain/vamp in Ekta/Gul shows.

My sister almost got married to a guy like that. He is not a murderer but a possessive psycho. Despite police complaints, he is still stalking her every move. She had to leave her job and secretly move cities to get oaway from him. He has made life hell for my family which is why I can't understand how anyone in their right mind could actually wish that Shranya and Vyom should be together.I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Fiction or not, it is a terrifying thought.

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reshmanair356

@reshmanair356

Voyager

Posted: 7 years ago

#13

Originally posted by: Gaurikhandekar

My sister almost got married to a guy like that. He is not a murderer but a possessive psycho. Despite police complaints, he is still stalking her every move. She had to leave her job and secretly move cities to get oaway from him. He has made life hell for my family which is why I can't understand how anyone in their right mind could actually wish that Shranya and Vyom should be together.I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Fiction or not, it is a terrifying thought.

Goodness Gauri..that's scary ya. Thank goodness your sister didn't get married to him. Please take legal help to keep that psychopath at bay.

This gloryfying the stalkers is such a dangerous trend. Even in wattpad when U read these teenage girls wriring fictions on young obsessed guys kidnapping their love interests..and finally the girls falling in love with them, reality is so different and unpleasant.

I had seen this senior stalking my roommate...he was everywhere. Classes, canteen, library..Poor girl left the college because of him. Idiots don' get it , that the girl does not want to be with you.

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557371

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Posted: 7 years ago

#14

Originally posted by: reshmanair356

Goodness Gauri..that's scary ya. Thank goodness your sister didn't get married to him. Please take legal help to keep that psychopath at bay.
This gloryfying the stalkers is such a dangerous trend. Even in wattpad when U read these teenage girls wriring fictions on young obsessed guys kidnapping their love interests..and finally the girls falling in love with them, reality is so different and unpleasant.

I had seen this senior stalking my roommate...he was everywhere. Classes, canteen, library..Poor girl left the college because of him. Idiots don' get it , that the girl does not want to be with you.

I understand that the love for an actor would lead one to make excuses for his/her behavior but to wish that a young girl should end up with him is a bit disturbing. I guess you have to live it up close and personal to understand how sick it is.

To get back to the TMs topic--- I too am disappointed. I moved over to Shiv's camp quite early into the show and waited patiently for his character to show the growth we anticipated. I am convinced now that this is all that there is to the character Namik is playing. Namik is doing a tremendous job given the constraints of a script that obviously has been written around a different character.

Truth be told, if I was a fan of VSC's acting, I would certainly praise his work but that still would not make me like Vyom or move over to his camp😆

Edited by Gaurikhandekar - 7 years ago

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sumz_d

@sumz_d

Voyager

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#15

Nobody in right mind would support Vyom.

And as far as his redemption is considered, he has crossed the line for that also.

Sadly he is a psycho who can hurt any innocent for himself.

Jo insaan apne maa ko maar sakta hai woh insaan dusro ko kya chodega.

Actually Vyom is a threat for society and himself also. As he is suicidal as well.

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Reine Lobo

@Rein123

Rocker

Posted: 7 years ago

#16

Originally posted by: Penfolk
What is going on?
I get attacks of laughter everyday specially watching Shiv Sharanya scenes. What nautanki!
Shiv, please do remember you have died. You are a ghost.
Please make your directors remember that there's a difference between a dead man and his spirit.
Spirits don't laugh and cry and shy away and all those. Okay fine ShivAnya fans may enjoy these but for me a namik fan, I see his character getting butchered every moment. Like what the hell?
If your boyfriend dies and yet goes around with you, does things as if you are still love birds and all, it looks such a big joke!!!!!
Sharanya suddenly breaks bangles but most of the times she shows no pain of losing her love. This is idiotic!

There's not much time left when I'll start supporting Vyom.
Only because his character has stronger elements.
His battle is much more difficult.
Fighting with inner psyche, as well as an overprotective father who may even kill his love.

@bold why is he supposed to remember that he is dead? He already knows that he is dead and that alone would be a painful fact for him to accept and you want him to keep dwelling over it? He may be a ghost but ghosts or spirits are also people or the very energy that forms the core essence of a physical being so i dont know why is he not supposed to laugh, cry or shy away when living people are allowed to do all this... what i mean is just because he died doesn't mean his personality and emotions have died with him infact those emotions are what have kept him anchored to the living world or that he is supposed to have a complete 180 degree change in his personality once he dies.. there are no rules defining how a ghost is supposed to behave or act... i am sorry if i sound really aggressive or a little too defensive of the ghost in question but i have seen these sort of comments way too often in this forum and i simply fail to understand what exactly are the stereotyped traits that are supposed to define ghosts... after all ghosts are ppl too and you never know what if we someday end up as those ghosts we fear a lot

Other than this i agree with you over the fact that as a ghost he is being under utilised and it seems like we will get to see different shades and depths of shiv only in fbs when be was alive which if you ask me is kind of unfair to his character because its his ghostly existence that has the most allure and if that is not used well then the supernatural element of the show which is the reason why i am watching this show will get undermined.. i know shiv is not at all interested in revenge but i really love his scenes where he gets into action when it comes to Sharanya's well being.. let's just hope that Shiv doesn't turn into or remain a passive character for long because that will just kill the thrill or the fun of the show.. i would really love watching Shiv mess around with Vyom's mind forcing him to confess his crimes and revealing himself as the guy that murdered Shiv.. But otherwise i love Shiv as a character and a ghost that does not conform to the unfair ghostly stereotypes

As far as vyom is concerned... i have zero sympathy for that guy and his feelings now.

Edited by Rein123 - 7 years ago

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Sunaina Mitra

@sunaina02

Inactive

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Posted: 7 years ago

#17

When you watch shivanaya romantic scenes you forget that this is inter-world romance and love it just because of the actors portrayal

But, I think Namik has successfully overcome the challenge of acting as the real bhoot with black eyes

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Kaushitaki

@Penkie06

Sparkler

+ 3

Posted: 7 years ago

#18

Originally posted by: sumz_d
Nobody in right mind would support Vyom.
And as far as his redemption is considered, he has crossed the line for that also.

Sadly he is a psycho who can hurt any innocent for himself.
Jo insaan apne maa ko maar sakta hai woh insaan dusro ko kya chodega.

Actually Vyom is a threat for society and himself also. As he is suicidal as well.

I remember you supported maya mehrotra 😆

Anyways once again, I don't support Vyom for his negativity.

Actually my choice of word has been wrong.

I just want Shiv's character to grow a lot more strong and interesting. Otherwise I'm namik's fan, I detest negativity in the name of psychic disorder, but at the same time the thriller component that has totally been lost, and the intensity of tragedy can be revived by Shiv only, not Vyom.

Sadly no one is concentrating on these points and are busy lecturing me as to why Vyom should not be supported. I don't still support him and won't even ever. I just said that Shiv could have been the stronger character along with being good. 😊

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Kaushitaki

@Penkie06

Sparkler

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Posted: 7 years ago

#19

Originally posted by: Rein123

@bold why is he supposed to remember that he is dead? He already knows that he is dead and that alone would be a painful fact for him to accept and you want him to keep dwelling over it? He may be a ghost but ghosts or spirits are also people or the very energy that forms the core essence of a physical being so i dont know why is he not supposed to laugh, cry or shy away when living people are allowed to do all this... what i mean is just because he died doesn't mean his personality and emotions have died with him infact those emotions are what have kept him anchored to the living world or that he is supposed to have a complete 180 degree change in his personality once he dies.. there are no rules defining how a ghost is supposed to behave or act... i am sorry if i sound really aggressive or a little too defensive of the ghost in question but i have seen these sort of comments way too often in this forum and i simply fail to understand what exactly are the stereotyped traits that are supposed to define ghosts... after all ghosts are ppl too and you never know what if we someday end up as those ghosts we fear a lot

Other than this i agree with you over the fact that as a ghost he is being under utilised and it seems like we will get to see different shades and depths of shiv only in fbs when be was alive which if you ask me is kind of unfair to his character because its his ghostly existence that has the most allure and if that is not used well then the supernatural element of the show which is the reason why i am watching this show will get undermined.. i know shiv is not at all interested in revenge but i really love his scenes where he gets into action when it comes to Sharanya's well being.. let's just hope that Shiv doesn't turn into or remain a passive character for long because that will just kill the thrill or the fun of the show.. i would really love watching Shiv mess around with Vyom's mind forcing him to confess his crimes and revealing himself as the guy that murdered Shiv.. But otherwise i love Shiv as a character and a ghost that does not conform to the unfair ghostly stereotypes

As far as vyom is concerned... i have zero sympathy for that guy and his feelings now.

I agree with your comment a lot, except for few parts of the first half. I do feel that ghosts have desires as well, according to what the concept is, but I also feel that when a ghost starts behaving like a poor human, the thrill factor is completely lost. I exactly like how he reacts when someone hurts sharanya. Brings in the intensity factor. I understand as well that Vyom and Shiv have different ways of loving, but I feel as a horror genre, the ghost, his tragedy, his loneliness, his intensity could have been beautifully portrayed in a different but in a less cheesy way.

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sumz_d

@sumz_d

Voyager

+ 2

Posted: 7 years ago

#20

Originally posted by: Penfolk

I remember you supported maya mehrotra 😆

Anyways once again, I don't support Vyom for his negativity.
Actually my choice of word has been wrong.
I just want Shiv's character to grow a lot more strong and interesting. Otherwise I'm namik's fan, I detest negativity in the name of psychic disorder, but at the same time the thriller component that has totally been lost, and the intensity of tragedy can be revived by Shiv only, not Vyom.

Sadly no one is concentrating on these points and are busy lecturing me as to why Vyom should not be supported. I don't still support him and won't even ever. I just said that Shiv could have been the stronger character along with being good. 😊

Wow so you sort of know me.

Yes I supported Maya in the beginning and towards the end I had sympathy for her. Reason being all the people in her life only used her and were sort of selfish. There was not one sane person in her life who loved her unconditionally or supported. Not one person who taught her the differece between right and wrong.

And Arjun did Love Maya although maybe not on the same level as Maya. But their feelings were mutual. It was Arjun himself who had a complex personality with a bit if selfishness combined with his autocratic mum and so called bff spelled doom in his and Maya's life altogether.

As the pandit had said to Arjun's mum that it will depend on her way of treating Maya indirectly. Love can conquer all but Arjun's mum chose hatred. Not only Maya had "beyhadh" love for Arjun but Arjun's mum also had "beyhadh" love for Saanjh.Thats why she always turned blind eye on Maya's goodness. She never acknowledged Maya as her dil in the beginning. And when she did, Saanjh had influenced Maya's life. And Saanjjh also had "beyhadh" love for Arjun, that she ended up loosing her father. Due to these three obsessions, story was formed.

As I had said Beyhadh and EDT cannot be compared. Beyhadh was a very subjective show. It all depends on one's perspective to view the storyline.

PS: May no person have a bff like Saanjh and Vyom.

Edited by sumz_d - 7 years ago