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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: arishma108


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Its ok, Im a Steroline shipper 😆see a healthy discussion leads to viewing things in a new angle, I love how I am always given a new perception here "Divergent Thinking" now I am so totally looking at it from a Chair view, this makes sense as well, Chuck and Blair both were so good at being bad and even stronger when they were being bad together.

In reality we are not nice every single minute of every single day; I don't go through life wanting to be a carbon copy of Gopi bahu đŸ˜” that's not my reality. I own my badness. I know I do bad things, but I don't make excuses for them or go around acting self-righteous over others.

I want what I want, and I go after it, but I don't hide behind "I didn't mean to do it."

My attitude is more "Hell yeah, I meant to do it because I think I do it better than you." Whether it's right or wrong I own my decisions.

You right, SamArj and Chair are not the same...Arjun is just Trouble and Sam owns her actions, see this is so relatable, so cant people like them fall in love with each other. Those types of love stories make History...it stays in your mind because it breaks away from the given.

Grafting SamArj in our minds eye for majority of the shows timeframe and then yesterday only introduce a 3rd scene with Arjun and Radhika because the 1st 2 didn't even give me reason to pause and pay attention to them. Let me do that now:

Scene 1 - Arjun tells Bonnie "everybody is someone to consider" someone he can use in the destruction process

Scene 2 - Arjun dancing with Radhika but never wavering eye contact from Sam

Ok going on these 2 scenes I am certain he is going to use Radhika as collateral damage (when unintended objects get hit along the way) but Radhika is going to be his bridge that connects him to the real Sam and make him realize that he has misunderstood Sam. Last night he told Sam to look at herself from someone else's view, forewarned is forearmed, and for me that just reinforced that Arjun is going to discover who Sam really is..."the orange" like Neil said "rough from outside and sweet from within" and the aversion he has to sweets, is going to prove fatal for him. He is already obsessed with her bordering on stalker, which is casting a shadow over my opinion of his character. But when the angry young man types fall in love, they fall really hard...

With regards to Precap, if Neil can read Sam like a book, then Radhikas perception of Arjun shouldn't be misconstrued as love (remember she doesn't trust him, she has mentioned this every time that she speaks to Neil) and that is what friends do...my best friend knows me better than I know myself.

But we have to consider, we watch TV and overanalyse and then invest mind, body and soul into the idiot box, and the idiots pulling the strings don't give a rat's a55 bout audience emotion (the driving force behind commercialism)

CW can break boundaries and stray from story eg. Felicity Smoak ain't no Black Canary but that aint stopping "Olicity"

Star Plus wants to keep pushing the stereotype down our throats in new and innovative ways. That is what "Nayi Soch" means to them.

But maybe, just maybe, after a very long time I am investing in a story about the dynamics in Sam and Arjun because I want to see something real play out. Not something old with a newly wrapped bow around it.



Wow girl you nailed it .. I can't but agree with you .. yes we over analyze and make our brain work to decode every line that's told or every look that's shared .. it paid off with Chair and YES it paid off with Olicity ❀ because CW had the courage to go beyond the stereotype, to go beyond what was planned and let the characters as well as the relationships grow naturally .. Chair and Olicity both happened because they were ready to explore every shades of human emotion without prohibition.. unfortunately Indian TV has to mature a lot before

In my head SamArj can be a wonderful story of two very grey personality who constantly grow-break-and grow in process of finding love in each other .. but that's in my mind .. I invest my imagination and energy to look for the potentials but at the end of the day the strings are in hand of as you said idiots of idiot box .. the best part is we are having some good time here .. discussing something better .. cheers to it
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Promo shows that Arjun looks at Radhika and pins her down in a calculating manner, and then he says only I know what's in my heart...

"If salt is taken in right proportions than it can become medicine" Arjun just inadvertently told us that Sam is the soothing balm on his enflamed soul...Like only Parvati knows that cool water can relieve Mahadev's anger...

Right now Sam has 2 enemies in her life, her mother harms her every moment by her hatred, this she knows, the other unknowing 1 is that Arjun has bad intentions towards her.

If Arjun can say that salt is his medicine, than in the very same instance Radhika more so than Neil is Sam's strength, Sam had the courage to speak to her mother today and talk about the accident, all because Radhika was there to support her.

Arjun knows Radhika will heal Sam's broken heart, and he has no intentions of letting her relieve Sam's pain. Arjun is definitely going to try and use Radhika to isolate Sam, why do I feel that he wants Sam to be totally dependent on him, is his plan to be her knight in shining armour that ends up being tinfoil?

Because if she becomes dependent on Arjun, than that means she gives him total control of her life, and if Arjun has control of Sam, then Sam is lost forever. And Radhika and Neil will never let that happen, Neil said "God has sent her in your life by some special reason, and Im your idiot, I will not leave you"

If the jodi's are what everyone is tense about, then todays episode just schooled us about the whole point of the show...from Radhika telling Arjun "when I will be alone, you will be with me, and I will teach you to smile and we will eat darkness together" it's a mirror of the very same silent promise she made to Sam...this show is about friendship, not being friends forever (dosti) and not about desire (manmarzian) it's about yaariyaan...everything else is just pillars around it.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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girl u nailed it with your dynamics.. after reading all the comments m confident about my thinking.. was not active in the forum fr few days but aftr i came back and saw huge fuss about the kumkum.. they didnt show kumkum falling on radhika's forehead even when she slipped it fell on arjun. and yes kumkum signifies purtity. and i really dnt see any rmntc angle btw radhika arjun but definately a strt of frndshp like nesam. cant ignore the part where dadu said she ll get a frndshp like nesam. and arjun entrng. also at the same time the kumkum part. it looked like she ll purify him. she ll redeem him. and after yesterday it litrly gave me a feel of nesam fight. why there ll always hv to be love angle. frankly i never felt anythng rmnctc btw nesam coz many times niel said he is her frnd and specially that part when neil asks whether pinapple ll come btw their frndshp and sam making him realise the place of lover and best frnd in a girl's life. arjun ll know her life stry but the in her stry there was neil always. and the way neil understands sam came to rishikesh knwng she is alone. i felt radhika understood that pain in arjun. i do see arjun using radhika in his revnge and i feel he ll become frnds with her in this process as she ll understand him and ll make him see the real sam. radhika helpng sam in piyali issue and neil issue just gave me the clue. and frankly in telly the bg tunes plays a very signifcnt role. i noticed yestrday radhika arjun had nrml bg tune a fun kinda tune just like nesam's teri meri dosti..
and the way they have developed SamArj i just dont see them seperating coz to spice up they ll hv to be together. as the story is about 4 frnds and their yaarian and dreams. after SamArj radhika dating sam's x doesnot go well with me. if this happens. where is sara? the stry is about these 2 girls right? ll sam accpt arjun as radhika's bf?? ll radhika accpt arjun knwng he destryd her life?? ll neil forgive arjun and radhika for cheating sam? more importantly as the story is about 4 of them. how ll Sam and arjun ll become friends after all these?? with ardhika happening the stry ends there. and to justify them they have to kill sam coz she cant be negative in the show as she is the protagonist. and what about neil?? he ll eat popcorn or what??
and with samarj and raniel. there ll be fights btw 2 jodi in future as radika suprtng arjun as he ll be her bff and neil suprtng sam. samarj hvng love hate relatnshp is a sure shot thng. that sari thrwng scene said it all. then there is saral and manya and bonnie in the picture to create triangles and prbs fr them.
frankly with samarj and raneil happeing the stry ll spice up and loads of track ll be there to show. with ardhika hppeng the show ends there. story ends there.
and i really wondr ph like swastik productns ll mess 2 jodi whch shownd so many symblc scenes and romntc scenes fr 1month and having their own bg tunes.
and if they really wantd ardhika i dnt think they would hv shown romnctc scenes btw samarj. as that was not need fr ardhika to happen. norml revenge would hv workd. as the story is about 4 friends.
neil entrng the auto when dadu tells her life ll gv secnd chance
and arjun entrng sam's life like a ray of hope with that sunrays
i do wondr they ll break them
but yes they are defintly playng with all the jodis but noticed one thng whenevr they gave 2 3mins of nesam or ardhika we get a bunch of raneil and samarj scenes. specially aftr few mins of ardhika we always got loads of romntc scenes btw samarj. as nesam is confrmd bff. and those chamchas are hopeless i knew this MU ll come. neil might thimk he likes sam but him gettng possesive and angry about radhika and being always there fr her when she was alone cryng needed someone the most neil came in always. symbolic??
same with samarj. whenevr sam ws shattrd arjun gave her solace in his arms.
symbolic??
and aftr spa intrvws i dnt think they are breaking samarj.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: Ri21

girl u nailed it with your dynamics...and aftr spa intrvws i dnt think they are breaking samarj.



You know I was passing the TV area while my folks were watching Manmarzian and was rolling my eyes because I had saw the promos with Radhika and it did not grab my interest... anyway I watched the Mangda dance sequence, I was enthralled by Sam and Arjun jodi, when you watch anything, you know you either feel the connection the person onscreen is portraying or you bored to death, you disconnect...

But more so now I am completely in awe of Karishma Irani's talent as an actress, I only ever watch indian telly for 1 reason, and that's if Sanaya Irani is in the lead... I think it's that Irani last name

Neil and Radhika didn't shake hands like friends they held on differently before the rest went all "breakfast club"

I get the whole "nothing is more important than Sam, not even my job" the interest of your job and a client is important but so is your family, life is not about being a machine, there is more to life. Life shouldn't be meaningless.

When Radhika says if she leaves Sam alone, it will be hard to bring Sam out from darkness...Radhika is Sam's true friend, and no one is going to get in between this friendship, no job, no guy, nothing is going to devalue them.

Radhika doesn't trust Arjun 1 bit and knows he is bad for Sam, her holding her head when she sees him bringing Sam out spoke volumes for me.

I don't get why every time Neil encounters Arjun and Sam in an intimate moment, he is rendered speechless...

Arjun is more and more looking to me like an abuser in an abusive relationship, it's like if Sam is reliant on him, he can keep her away from those that can heal her...and only he can be her saviour.

When he said a string that breaks cannot join again...and don't close the door off from me...and the fact that he wants to get her far away from everyone...he can make it appear like he will do anything to prevent harm to Sam, but its because he wants to be the sole cause of her pain.

Neil and Radhika have to slay 3 dragons for Sam, ie. Piyali, Arjun and sidekick Bonnie

Precap said it all, he can do anything to stop Sam from reaching the conference room, he has already seduced Bonnie, by what means we don't know, but she pants every time she's around him, Arjun is intimidating Radhika, and he has now also made it clear that he will hurt her if he has to, he has realised just how great a threat she is to him, during his "Dard ka PHD" bhashan his tube light went off about Radhika...

These cvs can try to crush my SamArj hopes but I will continue to watch just for Samaira Khanna.

Take a bow Kashmira Irani. You are 1 beautiful, powerhouse of talent.

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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: arishma108



You know I was passing the TV area while my folks were watching Manmarzian and was rolling my eyes because I had saw the promos with Radhika and it did not grab my interest... anyway I watched the Mangda dance sequence, I was enthralled by Sam and Arjun jodi, when you watch anything, you know you either feel the connection the person onscreen is portraying or you bored to death, you disconnect...

But more so now I am completely in awe of Karishma Irani's talent as an actress, I only ever watch indian telly for 1 reason, and that's if Sanaya Irani is in the lead... I think it's that Irani last name

Neil and Radhika didn't shake hands like friends they held on differently before the rest went all "breakfast club"

I get the whole "nothing is more important than Sam, not even my job" the interest of your job and a client is important but so is your family, life is not about being a machine, there is more to life. Life shouldn't be meaningless.

When Radhika says if she leaves Sam alone, it will be hard to bring Sam out from darkness...Radhika is Sam's true friend, and no one is going to get in between this friendship, no job, no guy, nothing is going to devalue them.

Radhika doesn't trust Arjun 1 bit and knows he is bad for Sam, her holding her head when she sees him bringing Sam out spoke volumes for me.

I don't get why every time Neil encounters Arjun and Sam in an intimate moment, he is rendered speechless...

Arjun is more and more looking to me like an abuser in an abusive relationship, it's like if Sam is reliant on him, he can keep her away from those that can heal her...and only he can be her saviour.

When he said a string that breaks cannot join again...and don't close the door off from me...and the fact that he wants to get her far away from everyone...he can make it appear like he will do anything to prevent harm to Sam, but its because he wants to be the sole cause of her pain.

Neil and Radhika have to slay 3 dragons for Sam, ie. Piyali, Arjun and sidekick Bonnie

Precap said it all, he can do anything to stop Sam from reaching the conference room, he has already seduced Bonnie, by what means we don't know, but she pants every time she's around him, Arjun is intimidating Radhika, and he has now also made it clear that he will hurt her if he has to, he has realised just how great a threat she is to him, during his "Dard ka PHD" bhashan his tube light went off about Radhika...

These cvs can try to crush my SamArj hopes but I will continue to watch just for Samaira Khanna.

Take a bow Kashmira Irani. You are 1 beautiful, powerhouse of talent.


well my frnd tld me that aham sharma is there in this show so watch it. even the promos nevr appeald to me same old stry of a sml twn girl. but when i heard the cast specially fr aham started watching it. but the person who i fell in love and who has hooked me up with this show is kashmira irani. n yes irani connectn is there in me too. m a big fan of sanaya. didnt knew much about kash but there was rumours of kash and sanaya are sisters i was vry happy hearing that. then to we got to knw they just wrkd together in one show n they are friends. now more than aham i watch the show for kash. she brings life to samaira khanna. it looks naturl
at frst i was open to all ships but samarj frst scene just made me frgt evrythng. i think thats why they frst impression is the last impression. ardhika conference room and other scenes never appeald to me. i never saw that chemistry whch was there is samarj. and evryone ll agree with it as both aham and kash are experienced actors. yesterday's epi actually pissed me off and i litrly lost intrst. n yes that hand held part of raneil was quite symbolic but arjun's behaviour and precap just damagd everythng. i actually loved arjun's character too but now he seems like a sadist or should i say psycho? a guy knwng that the girl has nthng to loose still is hell bound to destry her. i hated arjun yesterday i dnt care now about pairs but i want arjun to suffer like hell. he doesnot deserve anythng excpt sadness and lonliness and i wish he gets that. i better want my sam to be alone than to be with an abusive guy like him. and the way they potrayd arjun now cvs better find an exclnt trck for his redeemtn orelse i wont be able to connct with him,. m alrdy disppointd with radhika's job so her stry ll never appeal to me. i love SaRa but not radhika. Neil too disappointd me a lil by agreeing to radh's plan. but i frankly i want a pure frndship btw NeSam and neil helping her frgt arjun and radhika. later they can introduce a good guy fr samaira
but i hv lost intsrt in this revnge track m annoyd now. the best thng now about the whole show is samaira khanna
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Originally posted by: Ri21


well my frnd tld me that aham sharma is there in this show so watch it...the best thng now about the whole show is samaira khanna



All those Sam and Arjun scenes can fly now, this one emotionally ravaged scene between Sam and Neil was beyond beautiful, it was enough to shut my wishful SamArj hopes, I am only going to watch this program for the beauty of NeSam, friendship, love whatever journey they take, it will be breathtaking.

I can't tell you how I shed tears, but for Kashmira Irani (Samaira) Shravan Reddy (Neil) and Kavita Ghai (Piyali) to be able to render their audience emotional, just shows the power of their talent👏...Arjun and Radhika scenes were but a nuisance for me. No chemistry flying off these 2 at all and I think Aham is just wooden now, think I have been weaned off the charm of his character, Radhika just appears expressionless...and you can't even blame botox, I only ever feel her presence/take notice of her when she is sharing a scene with Sam.

I still feel that Arjun wants to be Sam's sole tormentor; it's his haq, reserved just for him. Maybe they were married as children. Nothing would surprise me now with the course this storyline is taking.

I wouldn't be surprised if they are feeding us the buildup of the cliched Arjun Radhika jodi only to go down the road and reveal just how much he is in love with Sam (the intensity level goes up a notch when his eyes are on Sam and Neil) just to give us a jatka and by then we have a Neil Sam wedding, where he will switch places and marry Sam himself, these shows just go down these predictable routes that suffice to say that only the 1st 25 episodes will only ever be amazing after that the TRP race begins.

Will not talk about the logic of transitioning from "I hate you Sam" to a rooftop reconciliation...if it wasnt for this ffwd I would have put money on Piyali being Sams stepmother...but then since when has desi tv afforded us with any.😆 #BhejaFry

Yawn...

PS.

btw. I watched a movie where a similar story of revenge was being undertaken, only for the accuser to realize that it occurred when the accused was a young child and did not even know that she was responsible for the incident...it's at the back of my head but I just can't place what it was that I watched.


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nooo i dont want any romantc angle in nesam friendshp nesam ll be destroyed.. trust me their frndshp is special about them. even i dnt care about pairings. coz arjun ll need to prove alot to get sam, he is not worth her. i dnt mind another guy fr sam. but if arjun he ll need hell lot of redeemtn and ll have to prove him to her.. sam doesnot deserve him.,
and now evrythng became logicless so god knws where they ll be go or going.. but marriage track i defintly dnt wnt that.. and arjun gettng married to sam forcefully is a big no frm my side, but i feel his character is butchered now. it just lost the charm. yestrday i was watchng his entry scenes again n just realised how much they hv butchered him
and chemistry??
yestrday i ddnt feel raneil too. they were cuteness but yestrday it was 😕 and forget arjun radhika scene i ws yawning. there is no comparisn btw ardhika and nesam. nesam is a diff level now same was samarj..
i belive monica needs to work more on her expressions. infrnt of aham kash and sharavn she needs to imprve alot. i couldnt connct with the scne only.
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Originally posted by: arishma108



You know I was passing the TV area while my folks were watching Manmarzian and was rolling my eyes because I had saw the promos with Radhika and it did not grab my interest... anyway I watched the Mangda dance sequence, I was enthralled by Sam and Arjun jodi, when you watch anything, you know you either feel the connection the person onscreen is portraying or you bored to death, you disconnect...

But more so now I am completely in awe of Karishma Irani's talent as an actress, I only ever watch indian telly for 1 reason, and that's if Sanaya Irani is in the lead... I think it's that Irani last name

Neil and Radhika didn't shake hands like friends they held on differently before the rest went all "breakfast club"

I get the whole "nothing is more important than Sam, not even my job" the interest of your job and a client is important but so is your family, life is not about being a machine, there is more to life. Life shouldn't be meaningless.

When Radhika says if she leaves Sam alone, it will be hard to bring Sam out from darkness...Radhika is Sam's true friend, and no one is going to get in between this friendship, no job, no guy, nothing is going to devalue them.

Radhika doesn't trust Arjun 1 bit and knows he is bad for Sam, her holding her head when she sees him bringing Sam out spoke volumes for me.

I don't get why every time Neil encounters Arjun and Sam in an intimate moment, he is rendered speechless...

Arjun is more and more looking to me like an abuser in an abusive relationship, it's like if Sam is reliant on him, he can keep her away from those that can heal her...and only he can be her saviour.

When he said a string that breaks cannot join again...and don't close the door off from me...and the fact that he wants to get her far away from everyone...he can make it appear like he will do anything to prevent harm to Sam, but its because he wants to be the sole cause of her pain.

Neil and Radhika have to slay 3 dragons for Sam, ie. Piyali, Arjun and sidekick Bonnie

Precap said it all, he can do anything to stop Sam from reaching the conference room, he has already seduced Bonnie, by what means we don't know, but she pants every time she's around him, Arjun is intimidating Radhika, and he has now also made it clear that he will hurt her if he has to, he has realised just how great a threat she is to him, during his "Dard ka PHD" bhashan his tube light went off about Radhika...

These cvs can try to crush my SamArj hopes but I will continue to watch just for Samaira Khanna.

Take a bow Kashmira Irani. You are 1 beautiful, powerhouse of talent.


U know everytime when he mention about he vl not ler her go or else she will run away those lines had some meaning in it. Actually his very dialouge seems so intense and has something hidden motive in it. I feel he came into her life for not only revenge but it may be have some other agenda other than revenge.

If we look at their childhood scenes which has sam in those FBs, he use to look like her in that way like she is already was his centre of attraction and from the look of it may he had crush on her.

Now as you mentioned in your post me too feel like he want only him to be her source of peace and solace, he want to be her reason of constant pain and suffering. Arjun dard dena bhi chahta hai or fir malham lagana bhi chahta hai I think he is turning into obsessive as per how they are potraying him. Actually saturday episode gave me that vibe he was just staring at her when she was crying but ran towarda her before anyone could reach in his mind he thinks that only he should be her source of finding peace and solace.

In yesterday he tried so hard that sam wont attend the presentation now after her reunion with her mom he lost the opportunity to isolate her from her family.

As for actors aham and kashmira is best choice for their respective characters...
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U know everytime when he mention about he vl not ler her go or else she will run away those lines had some meaning in it.

As for actors aham and kashmira is best choice for their respective characters...



To tell you the truth I always felt there was something more with Neil when he was around Sam, but because I was in SamArj "fantasy" world I didn't want to ponder over it.

Arjun smiling indicates him kicking his mini plan into gear. "Operation: Get Radhika outta the way"

Asking Sam if happiness has any limits, that Radhika didn't let him take her away from everyone, he needs to remove her from his path...and when Arjun says whether Sam believes it or not, that there is something between them (physical attraction), indicates that theses cvs are playing with us.😕

I'm calling this now...

For Arjuns plan to succeed the only way to confine Sam and exact his revenge, is if;

Step 1:

He finds out that Neil is in love with Sam, he needs to insinuate himself in Sam's love life before she knows or realizes her own feelings towards Neil.

Step 2:

Then he needs to push Radhika and Neil together/match make, keep them occupied so Sam is left alone for his pain/pleasure, whatever he thinks he has up his sleeve, (his secret revenge plot is becoming tiresome)đŸ„±

Step 2:

another notch on his mantle if Saminder Singh also loves her "Idiot" chori chori chupke chupke, and is devastated when she thinks Radz and Neil love each other, then SHE becomes the Mahaan one for both her best friends and walks away from Neil straight into Arjuns waiting arms/trap/web of deceit.

Step 3:

He wins, so he thinks, so he probably marries her, because now Samrat and Piyali think he is the bees knees, just perfect for their daughter and there we have Arjun cementing himself into this freshly glued family to wreak more havoc, and of course Neil and Radz get to get married too, I mean how can any SP show not have a vivaahđŸ€Ș, then we get to see musical chairs, because then Neil loves Sam, Sam loves Neil, Arjun falls for Radhika during this madness, Radhika loves Neil, everyone loves Neil and our villain is pagalpan

and we have another to add to the Gopi/Akshara/Sandhya/Suhani "bhashan group" Rishta Wayi, Soch Nayi👏

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Uff my lil samarj shipper heart was broken today. I just can not able to digust the crap cvs dish out us today till saturday neil was like ok if sam has soft corner for arjun then the group decided that they will bear him for sam but in todays episode they had taken 360 degree u-turn. After the dance sequence in party I felt that maybe he feels for sam but then was also blind in samarj heaven.
Step 1 as u explained first I want to see how neil will accept this feelings for her to himself in their friendship I found him the one who vl always cross the limit for other and I dun know what will arjun would make of this situation..

lol he has to calculate on many things by then the theory of arjun pushing neil towards radhu is possible case and he will want that time to cash in for his plans.

One thing cvs highlighted about today was physical intimacy and attraction but I am sure they had more than that you can see in their every interaction and to add on that cvs conveyed the msg that samarj was not complement each other.

I was like watching an another show..

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