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Posted: 14 years ago
#51

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav



Yes that I agree to😳 Hiding stuffs make everything worse😃

But honestly, if u live with a nice person for months and yrs, it's actually not possible NOT to love him, regardless u were in love earlier or not.. And one will deffo love that kinda husband if she herself is also a good human being😊 Nothing is impossible.. And I truly know it.. experienced it😊

Love is just not abt a fantasy world.. Two people living together, and discussing their driver's problem or abt how in next diwali they have to repair their house - is also a kind of love.. that love is what we see in a Marriage.. Love of togetherness.. And it's really really not possible for two good people to stay together for long and not love each other..😛 If not anything, at least one shouldn't go mental for that😕



If you have experienced it, then you are a very lucky girl.. There are two types of people, One who has the courage to move on by considering her past only as her experience and embrace the future.. like yourself... 👍🏼

Second, people who live in their past.. these people prefer to spend their lives in their happy memories.. you should not force them to move on coz they are usually so stubborn to let go of things that, they might end up hurting themselves and everyone around them They are not wrong, its just who they are.. 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
#52
Modernity is all about holding your freedom and courage with responsibility and accountability.

a Modern woman to me is an Educated INDIVIDUAL who makes her own way to the success while giving counter gender a run for their money, she is intellectual, courageous, humble and subtle, she knows how to carry her success with grace and humility, She is the one who handles professional and personal life with equal expertise.. She knows how to give the best values to her children while keeping her intact.

Modernity is not about freedom to smoke, drink or sexual indulgence with anyone (thats NOMAD culture), Its about not emotional blackmailing someone to agree with you but bringing them LOGICALLY to the same page.

lastly, modernity means being evolutionary not being rebellious


PS: when it comes to Riddhima forget about being Modern, I doubt if she is a Woman!

PPS: great topic Neetz!
Edited by monar - 14 years ago
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Posted: 14 years ago
#53

Originally posted by: Nishitarao



I just merged both of your replies..
So in the last 2 paragraphs, you are basically trying to say, she should give her 100% to the marriage and finally tell him whats on her mind when nothing else worked right?

OK ..Lets see her options when she finds out the she still loves Z..

1) Pretend like everything is normal for your entire life : I dont think either of us will agree to this option..

2) Give yourself sometime ..and if nothing changes prepare him mentally b4 you tell him the truth.. : your solution :)

It is a very ideal solution.. but hard to implement practically.. How will she know that she has tried hard enough for this marriage?.. How much is 'enough' ? she has already slept with him, she is even carrying his child, If she is still not able to love him, will it ever happen? Now If he wants to stay in the marriage despite hearing the truth, what is anybody gaining out of it? If their unborn child could not make any difference, what else will?More imp, Is it all worth it in the end?


I think you're taking ridhima as the benchmark here, who never knows what to do or what she wants out of life 😆 I had said in the beginning itself, this isn't a situation similar to the ARS angle at all. I'm considering X to be mentally streamlined enough to realize that the relationship isn't working for her (unlike ridhima) and share that sentiment with her husband. see, sleeping isn't equivalent to loving. like I said earlier, you'd be surprised to know how many women conceive out of a loveless marriage. but once she shares her sentiment with her husband and they both decide to give it a chance, I think any relationship deserves that benefit of doubt. walking out at an impulse 'just because' it isn't working isn't a rational decision. relationships aren't toys to be played around with.

like I said, if ultimately she comes to the conclusion that she doesn't love him, after giving herself and the relationship a chance, she can very well walk out. it's not working, walk out with grace and with as less guilt as possible.

3) Just go straight to him and tell him the truth.. : In any relationship, if there is something wrong, you'll notice it almost immediately. If X is not happy with her husband, no matter how hard she tries to cover it up n pretend like everything is fine, It will still be evident.. So when X tells Y that she still loves Z, It won't be a shock for him coz he would have seen it coming... otherwise, It means their marriage is having a bigger problem than wife's feelings for ex..

see that's what I'm trying to say, she doesn't have to 'pretend'. 'talk' maybe overrated as means of solving dispute but it certainly does help. if she just has a heart-to-heart with her husband, there will be no 'fakeness' or pretentious behavior. if they decide to make it work together and give it their last try, knowing fully well that one spouse isn't happy with the relationship, I don't see where the fakeness lies?

ofcourse the problem infact lies in the assumption that she'd never share her feelings with her husband at all. the pretentious behavior would lie there. if there is a problem, X should let Y know about it and try to come to a mutual decision, this isn't just about her, it's about her husband too.

Among all the three above, not a single option is right .. coz the situation itself is wrong..
If X tells him right away, he might ask her how can she be so inhuman?.. or why is she so shameless?

If X doesn't tell him the whole truth right away, but just tell him that their marriage is not working, mentally prepare him and then tell him about her feeling for Z, He might still ask her why she didn't tell him right away? why did she hide the truth??..

yes, he certainly might, but the blow wouldn't be as strong. he'd definitely feel cheated either way, but atleast he'd have the consolation that X didn't just walk out on him, she gave him and their relationship one last chance before just packing her things walking out, that proves to him that she still had faith in him at some point. I'm not saying that my solution would make everyone happy and everything would go back to being hunky-dory again. but it certainly lessens the guilt, anger, humiliation and deceit at the time of split (if it happens)

either way band X ki bajegi aur saza Y ko hogi😆



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Posted: 14 years ago
#54

According to me mordernity means freedom. A woman who takes all decision of her life according to her wish. A woman who is completely self dependent. Mordernity is something which does not include society pressure or family reputation. Here i dont mean that mordern women should not care about family,she should give equal importance to family but should not concentrate about what people are barking about her and her family.

I know u had just asked a general question but i would like to give my view on mordernity on serial also.
Some peole are taking help of culture and ethics to stop riddhima and they are known as SR fans. And some peeople are using mordernity as weapon to get back their favourite couple and they are known as AR fans.
According to SR fan mordernity is something which is based on honesty. A woman is free to leave her husband if she is not happy with him but even a mordern woman dont have right to play with any1's feelings like riddhima played with sid's feelings
According to AR fans mordernity is complete freedom. A woman can do anything what she wants .She is free to speak anything as it is her life ,If she goes back to her ex than what is wong in it? Atleast she is not playing with feelings of her husband. Yes she hurt her husband but atlast she made way for all confused people, Mordernity is something which does not have any type of restriction.
So dear nothing is old and nothing is new, Its just the matter of point of view.
Here every1's point of view are different so u will definately get 1000 defination of mordernity.
Sorry if it was too long.
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Posted: 14 years ago
#55
according to me a modern women is not weak, she knows what she wants and goes for it, never depend on anybody or anything, she can stand up for herself rather then crying like a bucket and cursing herself, has the courage to face the past and future! knows what is right and wrong, make her own decesion rather then holdig someone hands to lead her the way! still being a 21st century women she has respct for culture and marriage, she is strong not a weak person who has no clue what to do or say!
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Posted: 14 years ago
#56

Originally posted by: bheegi

Good question Neetz.

I think a modern woman is a woman who listens to and respects everyone, but makes her own decisions in the end i.e respects herself also. Once she makes the decision, she sticks to it, for good or for bad because life is about the choices one makes. It's how well you deal the cards you have been dealt with, that makes or breaks a person.

Riddhima by no means is a modern woman. The only decision in her life that she has taken on her own is falling in love with Armaan. All other decisions were taken out of compulsion or someone else made them for her.

Whether it's Armaan leaving her, her parents forcing her into marriage, and now Sid leaving her....were never her decisions

She has tried to make her own decisions on several occasions but one way or another, either other people or her own heart has betrayed her.

There is an old song 'ghungroo ki tarah bajtaa hi raha hoon main, kabhie is pag mein, kabhie us pag mein..."

That's exactly Riddhima's story. The day she will take charge of all the bells on her own ghungroo will be the day, I'd consider her modern.

BTW, a stay at home mom who stays home by choice is also modern, a woman who chooses arranged marriage of her own accord is also modern and a woman who divorces because she is not happy in her marriage is also a modern woman....but she makes the choice, not anyone else.



Exactly
Thats the real defination of mordernity.
Riddhima never took decision of her life by her own wish and mordern woman dont like others decision in her life.
She fall for armaan was only her decision.
And rest of the decision was taken by either parents and husband or society.
She tied a knot with sid because of society pressure and family reputation,
She decide to move on because of Sid.
Even living with sid was not her decision it was sid's decision.
So where is mordernity in DMG?
According to me right now she is showing mordernity and maturity both.
Only a mordrn woman can take such tough decision and only mature woman have enough guts to solve life of all people which was muddle becoz of her one wrong action.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Modernity is a sense of mind. To me its how well one can juggle the moralities, values, culture and essence of your being with the changing world with much maturity and wisdome. Ridhima isnt one of them. She has never been able to stand up for herself, let alone stand up for the right thing. She is weak and she is meek..and one thing modernity makes you, is responsible, strong and capable.
~Naina.
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Posted: 14 years ago
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calling ridz a modern wmen is an insult to 21st century modern women, she is nothing like a modern women, she is selfish,egoistic,weak,confused soul for eternity, she is a shame to womenhood! comparing her tomodern girls is a big no no!
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Posted: 14 years ago
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CZ nice post!👍🏼

Everyone has thier own defintion of modern....if awomen dresses in western attire the society calls her modern if she has a boyfriend agian she is categorized as being modern she drink she smokes she drives....lives life on her terms she is considered extremly modern...

but according to me a modern women is the one who knows herself, an educated women who strives to make a mark in this male dominated world...she knows what she wants n gets it! but at the same time has her values n morals intact...being modern doesnt mean crossing the limits that the society or ur parents has set...there is a reason behind them so we should respect that...so one can be modern and respect the values given by our parents....
i was reading the working mom vs house wife posts so couldnt help commenting...but i beleive a stay at home mom is working hard enough just like working mom....u have brought a child into this world so its Your responisbility! u need to care n love him/her...provide him the time n attention he needs.....so if a women chooses too stay at home then its her decision so we should respect it....cuz i beleive running a house is a job in it self....even more difficult then running a business cuz u dont have other ppl to help u around....
so in all i beleive whether it's a work mom or stay at home mom both doing thier best for their kids 😳
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Posted: 14 years ago
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Originally posted by: papia



Then what would you called about second marriage? Was it pressure?

WHo pressure whom everybody knows it dont need to explain. It was rid who pressure sid to continue marriage.

For me RID is extra modern. Because she was playing with the emotion of two dude at the same time, married the same person twice, EMA and finally Break marriage.

Only a woman of 2050 century can do those things what Ridima did. So she is definitely an ultra modern girl.

sorry about liking the post, that was accident, actually i like ur arguement....😊
the 2nd marriage really confused me....in my opinion she in a backward thinking that she has thought that the only way to make sure she s over her ex and is faithful in her marriage is to renew her vows...she did just that....too bad she realised she still isn't completely over him and is still inlove with him. she isnt modern. muskaan was a mordern girl, so was anji they spoke their minds! 😊

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