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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Elysia


Well said.
If people want a scapegoat, then maybe they should look to the channel who's behind the butchering of the show's social message. It was, in fact, their responsibility to make sure that the creatives didn't stray from the path. They didn't just cheat the actors -- they also cheated the victims.


And what makes the PH exempt? I understand the point that it's their responsibility to make sure about the creatives keep to the message, but how do you know it's just the channel who's behind the butchering and the PH itself doesn't have its own hand in it?


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Posted: 13 years ago
Pleasee dont DSDD PLEASE! PLEASE! THE SHOW WILL DIE ! LOVE YOU SO MUCH HARSHAD! IF YOU LEAVE THE SHOW, COME BACK WITH A BETTER HEROINE IN LESS THEN A MONTH! LIKE ADITTI OR ANUPRIYA
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Posted: 13 years ago
Elyssia and maaze i totally agree with you. The concept of viraj the absure, rapist , murderer is getting tended by victims just becoz he is mentally imbalanced rather mad is very very wrong message and puking to think even. No one for any reasons can fall emotionally for abuser forgetting their past totally. We all quited the show for the same reasons as being woman i cannot sit across and be part of humiliation that cv has inflicted on us as viewer. The consequences of this message that its ok to tend abuser by victim can be fatal. I mean all terrorist, physcopaths, mentals can go on with way and in end when they are punished get treated in asylum , forget their deeds, and join the mainstream. Wow what a escape. This is just mockery of law and social system. HC must have taken this decision after giving lot of thoughts and may have tried to convince the cvs too but he may not be heard by them hence took this harsh step. I am happy that he has decided to quit knowing that its most difficult and risky thing to do as perceptions changes and i am seeing the same happening with him now sadly.
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Posted: 13 years ago
I still remember the conference in Lucknow i guess, where HC had been shown as d face of standing against d cause. there he had met so many DV victims, nd it was clear, hw RAGHAV was d hope nd face for standing against DV. dat was i guess 4 months back.
So HC has a clear point nw dat, when dose same victims will cum nd ask him dat where was d message, why is d justice denied, he can only say sorry to them, nd nothing else, becos poor man doesnt hv d pen in his hand, nd is pressurized to showcase d crap CVs hv dished out.

As a human, it is believable dat both HC nd SJ have actually crossed all limits of patience, it is understood, dat previously they tried a lot, they tried 2 talk wid d CVs, but when continuously they were ignored nd illtreated 4 d sake of CVs nd dere personal likes/dislikes, nd a high point hv been reached where they actually corrupted a message, nd delivered it thru dem, its very much natural dat Both HarshSri decided 2 stand against dis crap.

The day both RAGHAV nd SIA had punished Viraaj nd send him 2 jail, wat happens ??.. d immediate next day he runs out nd romances a princess, nd alll dose drama...
So dis definitely wasnt d message which atleast we nd HarshSri had expected from d writers.

Anything u decide HC, widout u no show.
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

I still remember the conference in Lucknow i guess, where HC had been shown as d face of standing against d cause. there he had met so many DV victims, nd it was clear, hw RAGHAV was d hope nd face for standing against DV. dat was i guess 4 months back.
So HC has a clear point nw dat, when dose same victims will cum nd ask him dat where was d message, why is d justice denied, he can only say sorry to them, nd nothing else, becos poor man doesnt hv d pen in his hand, nd is pressurized to showcase d crap CVs hv dished out.

As a human, it is believable dat both HC nd SJ have actually crossed all limits of patience, it is understood, dat previously they tried a lot, they tried 2 talk wid d CVs, but when continuously they were ignored nd illtreated 4 d sake of CVs nd dere personal likes/dislikes, nd a high point hv been reached where they actually corrupted a message, nd delivered it thru dem, its very much natural dat Both HarshSri decided 2 stand against dis crap.

The day both RAGHAV nd SIA had punished Viraaj nd send him 2 jail, wat happens ??.. d immediate next day he runs out nd romances a princess, nd alll dose drama...
So dis definitely wasnt d message which atleast we nd HarshSri had expected from d writers.

Anything u decide HC, widout u no show.

Agree with each and every word👏

HC SJ still has given the cvs time. Ca n they save the sinking ship ad fix the damage? its all in cvs hand and if HC SJ quits then I am with them. I respect their decision and support it.

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: Saraella

Agree with each and every word👏

HC SJ still has given the cvs time. Ca n they save the sinking ship ad fix the damage? its all in cvs hand and if HC SJ quits then I am with them. I respect their decision and support it.

yes Sara, the articles clearly points out dat both d actors 4m a long time must hv been given hope dat their characters wudnt b butchered,m nd ofcourse thru dem a wrong message cannot b delivered. But alas, CVs never developed their characters, nd finished d whole growth process in 2 episodes. The message was corrupted where d abuser was in jail for one single day only..
I will support HarshSri in anything they decide, by speaking out d truth nd taking a stand they showed dat since long wateva we fans were telling bout d wrong social message being delivered was so valid. When d lead pair demselves r disappointed, its obvious dat we fans were no wrong in our take when we said dat RAGHAV nd SIA were always compromised for _ _ _ ..
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Posted: 13 years ago
for us without harshad chopra there is no use of seeing saubagyavathibava as we r seeing the show due to his acting and presence any way we always support his and hope to see him back soon.this the only show we used to see in tv
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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: harshu.sundas

yes Sara, the articles clearly points out dat both d actors 4m a long time must hv been given hope dat their characters wudnt b butchered,m nd ofcourse thru dem a wrong message cannot b delivered. But alas, CVs never developed their characters, nd finished d whole growth process in 2 episodes. The message was corrupted where d abuser was in jail for one single day only..
I will support HarshSri in anything they decide, by speaking out d truth nd taking a stand they showed dat since long wateva we fans were telling bout d wrong social message being delivered was so valid. When d lead pair demselves r disappointed, its obvious dat we fans were no wrong in our take when we said dat RAGHAV nd SIA were always compromised for _ _ _ ..

exactly sun so truth. now time will tell that how will these cvs gonna manage two actors leaving. I mean replacements or character deads or not piece of cake. cvs will pay a huge for this. Time will tell that how they will manage the show with their viraj!

HC has given them 30 nov time and I guess same for SJ. it shows how professional and commited they are and even after all this they are given cvs time to fix the damage

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Posted: 13 years ago

Originally posted by: likarsh


Harshad Chopra's answer before right before his entry on DSDDSB. Forgive me for quoting this from TC.

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Okay. But many people are of the opinion that the show glorifies
domestic violence. Your take on it'

See everyone has his or her way of looking at things. Unfortunately, people are giving more importance to the negatives in the show rather than the positives. Here is a case of a man who is mentally imbalanced and Saubhagyavati reflects that the problem can be solved with psychiatric help. Moreover, domestic violence is prevalent in our country and the show is just creating awareness about it.

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Forgive me if I don't buy some people's theory that HC's problem with the show is that Viraj is not the villain and Raghav is showing pity or mercy on Viraj, whose (as far as we know right now) mental capabilities have decreased to due to cruel and unjust punishment. Or, if that is HC's problem now, well he certainly knew what he was getting into earlier.

It's true that the show has veered away from DV, but that happened long before now, and it is not all tied to Viraj.


@crazygod. You need not be apprehensive. DSDDSB is a special case. HC is not one to quit his shows.


As I said, it's not as if he didn't know there would be a redemption track, or that Viraj would at some point be treated. Sure, this current way is lazy of the writers, but it's laughable that he would be protesting against a sympathetic Viraj, when he's the one who answered the way he did to that question. In fact, his "dwelling on the positives" kind of goes with what crazygod and others are saying.

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Posted: 13 years ago
@-svetalana-
Yes, in the end, it is all about the message. When an actor specifically says he joined a show for the message and then for it to change, would infuriate anyone. You, me and HC. It is fair for him to feel and react this way. I agree that I reckon HC thought long and hard about this. No actor would jeopardise their reputation and career for nothing. This is close to all our hearts and a fair fight. However, I am fully on his side no matter what. Even though I loved his character and would be sad to see him off air for a while, it is about justice.
@sundas
Yeah, I was remembering the same! Do you have links for that? Imagine how hard it would be to be looked at as though you are a hypocrite or giver of false hope! The look in those women's eyes would be enough to make me cover my face in shame. I love how you called it a "corrupted message"- that is the perfect description!
Yes, as I have no idea what that other 'princess' show is about, the only thing going on in my head at that time was "W*F?" I literally could not understand the damn point of such a crossover! It was so weird and unnessecary!
I'd also like to add that Indian tv shows have an audience on all ages. And it is important to remember there are young viewers too who are greatly influenced by these shows. Such a high percentage of youngsters take action such as eloping and suicide as a last resort after seeing it on tv and I am not putting all the blame on television- I am just stating facts.
To show something as crucial as a victim and her abusive husband will not go unnoticed by these youngsters.
What message is coming across to them then? And I hope I don't get any "Well they shouldn't watch it then" because that would be ridiculous. The point of this show was a message, and it should've played out successfully to the end with conequences, results and an outcome all clearly displayed.
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