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Originally posted by: suki11

Personally IMO HC and SJ should have teamed up with KVB when he was thrashing out his character arc with the PH and CV's. Maybe if all three of them had banded together, then we wouldn't have to see this farcical track. I mean seriously Raghav playing daddy dearest to Viraj, is the best post leap track CV's could think of?!

Actually there's still time; if KVB still has any issues and SJ isn't happy, they should join forces with HC, and get this whole mess sorted. If it's not resolvable all three should quit this show before, their forced to cross a line of acting integrity that they are not willing to do.

As the saying goes 'stand alone to fall, band together to rise'.

Originally posted by: crazygod

I am able to write below, because I am not a fan, who is emotionally attached to an actor... I am just a lame audience, who watches show and characters... Do not be offended by my assumptions, they are just assumptions and possibilities behind the scenario... No one knows the truth, except the one who makes the NEWS...

Coming back to the topic, well none of us knows what happens behind the scene... The real motives and projected ones are not ought to be the same... And I am a voracious news watcher... If someone makes a statement for his actions, then he is trying to make a statement to cover up for something else... maybe i am trying to read too much between the lines, maybe i am wrong... But there are chances that my hypothesis is right... And I do not know any actors personally as what kind of human beings they are, I only know them through their characters, so I can only make assumptions...

I personally refuse to believe that its creative issue or social message thing, that has prompted any of the male leads to take this decision...

Sorry to bring KVB here, but when his news of leaving the show came, at the same time his twitter updates were raving about his happiness regarding the upcoming track.. so to me it seemed more of a publicity gimmick... I do not think that 7 year leap was changed to 1 year due to KVB's quitting at all... because all the articles around 7 year leap were speculations, and no article had conformed the 7 year leap from any source related to the show (so far as I know)...

If HC is quitting because of social message, then he should have quitted long time back, as the show stopped being about DV long back... Again I may be wrong, because I am not just reading the article but between the lines... Till now as Fans claim, that HC's role has always been compromised in this show, maybe he also feels the same, or some fans made him feel that way... Also the new track post leap has more potential for KVB as an actor, because he get to play a challenging character which has lot of potential... While Raghav's character though has lot of story now, but does not have the X factor... I personally wonder if thats the reason... And he is just trying to be politically correct by quoting social issue as the reason...

Or is there something brewing between KVB and HC, just like their fans are on loggerhead, maybe they also are... Rivalry between actors is fairly common, its not something unheard of... Or maybe its fans who dictated their judgement and made them take this decision... as for long in this forum, I have seen many fans asking HC, or KVB, or Sriti to quit the show... No offence to any fans, but just forming my assumptions based on what i have been seeing... Maybe as HC fans often quoted that KVB is given lot of importance than HC by people involved in the show, and it might have become an Ego Issue. between the two actors, who knows, even they are human, and have desires and aspirations...

If anyone should be affected by the show moving away from DV issue, it should have been KVB, as he was a potent part of DV, being the perpetrator... Or Sriti who was the victim... these two were directly related to DV... Harshad came to support Sriti in this war and to make her character strong... And he did that and successfully put KVB's character behind bars... and gave Sriti's character a second lease of life, a lovely marriage... Sriti could be upset that her journey was missed... Only reason I personally see for Harshad is that his screen space and character was often compromised in front of KVB's character... and KVB's fan could say the same... And then as TV show goes on and on, and characters have to be kept together, so again KVB's character is back... and Harshad might feel threatened that KVB will again occupy more power in narrative than him...

I do not know HC or KVB as a person, but just know them through their roles... what and how they are in real life, i have no clue, so I can only make assumptions... Maybe I am trying to read a lot between the lines, but thats an old habit... I could be wrong, but then I can be right... Only if real news could ever make it to public, we will even know the truth... More than TV shows, its NEWS, that's fabricated these days...

What will an actor loose if the show gets affected, they walk out with hefty payments, but what about so many people working day in and night out on the show, who do not earn lakhs of rupees like actors... They end up suffering being jobless, the actor moves on from one green pasture to another... If any actor is in so much of guilt, that his role is causing social injustice, and he is forced on to pass a wrong social message, and he feels quagmired, then should he take the payment for the role that he is doing... Because that money is also cursed by plight of those domestic violence women, who are being claimed to be the motivation behind this decision... Many would argue that why should he, its his hard work money, he did his role honestly... So you enjoy all the luxuries offered w/o blinking, but abandon the ship that cruised you to here. that Oh I boarded the wrong ship...

SO PERSONALLY I DO NOT KNOW WHATS THE REAL REASON, BUT THE BAD NEWS IS THAT A SHOW, AND CHARACTERS THAT I PERSONALLY LIKE WILL SOON COME TO AN END, BECAUSE THE ACTORS ARE QUITTING... WHOM I LOVED IN THE ROLES THEY HAVE DISPLAYED... ITS DIFFERENT POV'S THAT WITH WHOM DOES THE BLAME LIE FOR THIS... CV'S, ACTORS, FANS, WRITERS, CHANNEL, PH... IT WILL ALWAYS BE DEBATABLE... BUT THE BAD NEWS IS THAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT TO END SOON... AND I DO NOT KNOW THE SOURCE OF TM, AND COULD NOT LOCATE IT PERSONALLY, BUT IF 30 NOVEMBER HE IS QUITTING, THAN THE SHOW MIGHT LAST TILL FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER OR SAY MAX TILL 18 DECEMBER, WHEN IT COMPLETES AN YEAR...

AND I DO FEEL REALLY BAD ABOUT IT...

AND I AM REALLY SORRY IF MY ASSUMPTIONS/HYPOTHESIS HAVE HURT SOMEONE...

Originally posted by: mysticgoryfilms

I was thinking the same. If this has been a problem for HC for sometime then he should have joined KVB when he was expressing his displeasure and contemplating on quitting. Why now? KVB said he wanted to quit in the beginning of September, the show lost it's social message by then and we were seeing a hostage track. Was HC satisfied with that? If both SJ and HC are unhappy, they should have joined KVB. All three would have avoided whatever they were unsatisfied with.

But now it doesn't quite make sense. Yes, I remember a time where HC has criticized and voiced his displeasure before, but this has been the 'harshest' so to speak. If it's been bothering him, he should have said it earlier.

Now voicing his displeasure is VERY weird, IMO.

Originally posted by: Elysia

@crazygod

And people turn to the actors for answers, not the channel, when something is shown or a message delivered on the show. The actors have to give the answers and what kind of an answer can HC give to a woman who might ask "how can you save the man who stabbed your wife?"

Originally posted by: prerna4rishav

I always maintain, and will again repeat myself that HC shouldn't have taken this role which doesnt have to do anything with the social message the show promised to give once.. Raghav's and his circus family's entry made the show annoying and focus shifted to fairy-tale lovestory from a victim of domestic violence female..

However, HC realized that now if the article is true.. The choice is his now..

Originally posted by: Elysia

Focus shifted from Jahnvi a long time before Raghav's entry. Do I need to point out how Jahnvi was reduced to a meditating housewife shown for less than two minutes during a track that focused solely on V and Dadi?

Not to stray from topic.

I find it strange how people assume that Raghav's entry was somehow just added without any planning. No, the show's concept included all three characters and focused on V as a villain, Raghav as a hero, and Jahnvi as the victim of abuse. From the start. That this was all altered due to whatever reasons is another debate entirely.

It's easy to say that HC shouldn't have taken up this role, but what if he'd already signed it and the concept was altered post his signing the contract? What do we really know about the circumstances under which contracts were signed, leads chosen, story altered?

To some, Raghav and his family were an annoying addition. To others, they were simply refreshing. In the end, that is hardly the point. The point is that HC has decided to speak up about his thoughts on the show and his own future on the show, taking a stand as it's hard for him to continue on a show that has strayed this far from its original message -- and I think that's commendable of him. Brave.

Originally posted by: crazygod

But guess the actor is not interested in it! I am one of the fews here, who is interested in seeing Raghav, Siya and Viraj comes back together, as what will happen now. As nothing is repetitive in terms of drama, present episodes are being played out to the fullest. And since he is quitting by 30th november as per the article, at least I will get to see some of it, before his decision makes the story change drastically. He maybe right in his stand of quitting, but if now story goes wrong, or the show ends, I personally will hold him responsible. For which i can do nothing about, as I can't impact his thoughts, life or future.

But I will be careful and apprehensive in watching his new show from now on, knowing that he can quit the show midway. But my apprehension would hardly affect him, as for big people who are beyond us, our thoughts are of no impact. They leave or take it as per their convenience, need or desires.

Second:

Originally posted by: Maazz

Well, this post truly was the wrong thing to read in the middle of the night. A real cause of a sleepless night.

@Elysia:

I totally agree with you. I think rather than criticising how 'long it has taken' HC to speak up about this is far from the point. Like you mentioned earlier, he may have been discussing this with them, we just don't know this. Like he said, there have been a lot of "informal quarrels" and maybe this was one of them.

Back to the point, I don't see why people can't see that he is standing up for a "social messsage!" Domestic abuse is a huge problem and if the television industry, which is massive, is a way to get to people's heads about, then awesome! He obviously doesn't like that this mission has changed from spreading a message, to (this is my opinion now) just being an ordinary dramatic show.

Instead of commending him, there's questioning and critique!

Why?

As an individual who is part of this fight, I am appalled by how many are actually questioning this move.

No matter what you do as a living or who you are as individual, there is always going to be a cause and something inhumane taking place around the globe. If everyone just pointed fingers and sat still, nothing would change.

The baddies would stay baddies, and victims stay stuck in their maze of a life.

I am proud protestor against this issue and have spent hours working against it on humanitarian causes alike, so I am truly proud to say WELL DONE to HC!

Two quotes that are insanely relevant to this topic:

First:

"A man is but the product of his thoughts what he thinks, he becomes." Mahatma Gandhi

HC has absolutely proven to be an example of this.

Second:

" A 'No' uttered from the deepest conviction is better than a 'Yes' merely uttered to please, or worse, to avoid trouble." Mahatma Gandhi

In relation to the victims, and HC's stand itself.

Please forgive me if I have hurt anybody or said anything unkind.

Thanks. Salaam.