Why does raghav even love sia ? - Page 2

Originally posted by: napstermonster

This is my problem with the story as far as Raghav goes. I actually have started seeing him as very impulsive guy, way more emotional and way less analytical. In this matter, Viraj will totally dominate him, because that man is incapable of emotions, and is nothing but manipulative.
If you think about it, Raghav's mom has him pegged down pretty accurately.

To be honest, I don't find him all that impulsive. He's a man of action, yes. But impulsive? I'm not sure about that yet. For days, he has been observing V and pondering the whole situation. Should I, shouldn't I? He's been cutting the guy some slack because he thought that he might've actually lost his memory, but he wasn't stupid enough to blindly believe it like the rest of his family. He has, in fact, been analyzing the situation. Arguing it.

A responsible caretaker shouldn't be leaving a kid with a pretty lady at an ashram just because she begs to be allowed to keep him overnight. Also, an inhaler is not something you drop into a kid's pocket and hope it stays there. Any caregiver can tell you that the kid will have an attack and will have lost the inhaler for SURE. He is a good man, just not a very sensible one.

True. I found that he left Krish with Sia a bit weird. But Krish practically used to live at the ashram. The women there always took care of him, fed him, took him out, etc. If we have to talk about someone being irresponsible, I'd point at Komal for allowing this as a mother. The ashram is owned by Raghav's mother and Komal's saas. There's an obvious trust factor involved, I think.

Raghav for me is very much a "knight in shining armor" with more instinct than brains, and more brawn then common sense. I LOVE the guy, but honestly, i feel that someone more, well--- intelligent and less instinctive-- would not fall instantly like he has for Janvi.

I must disagree. Raghav has plenty brains. His observations for one are evidence of it. It isn't just about instinct. From the moment he met V, he observed his mannerism, his tone of voice, his attitude and formed an opinion on the man that stuck. Upon his living in their house, he observed that there's a two-faced tinge to everything V says and does, judging from the way the guy kept probing in relation to Raghav's family matters, saying thins that were way too similar to Dev, popping up everywhere in the house at the most convenient times. Plus his entire self-loving attitude spoke volumes -- even with a supposed memory loss, the world revolved around V.

Those observations were turned in Raghav's head which is why he kept pondering about the guy, trying to figure out if it was only a gut feeling or if his observations were legit. Didi confirmed his theories on the guy and he acted shortly after. Naturally.

He gives into his heart and does not actually need much more than just a beautiful, shy, fragile woman to appeal to his inherent "noble" nature.

In some situations, yes. Because unlike V, he has a heart and a pure one too. But I also find that he thinks a lot, ponders a lot over things rather than just acting due to a gut feeling. If that had been the case, he would've kicked V out on day one rather than allow him to stick around for days.

I dont understand the pain connection thing. My take is that Raghav fell for her well before he realized she was anything more than just a pretty girl in danger on a bus. He fell for her within moments of seeing her, and please, the depth of her fear at that point was nothing more than common garden variety panic at having a knife held to her throat by a hoodlum. Remember his flashbacks in jail? Nothing more was needed for his instant love than a pair of brimming eyes, and a tendency to get into trouble that he could rescue her from in true manly esh-style.

Once more, I must disagree. Jahnvi's eyes were haunted. It wasn't just pain/fear. Even I could see that they were haunted.

But I agree on one part -- she did call to the protective/noble side of him. But I don't think that was what initially made him connect or, later, fall for her. In fact, her fearful side kind of annoyed him at one point. I do think, however, that he has a need to rescue people -- save them. That can be a good thing and a bad thing. Because some people should not always be saved, but pushed to fight for themselves. Like Jahnvi.

In contrast, thought, I do think Janvi's portrayal is being done well. I truly don't see how she can have feelings for him right now, beyond a mild liking, because I've worked with rape victims and domestic abuse survivors, and let me tell you, they DONT feel love or attraction for another man within mere months of emerging from an abusive relationship. They have too much to do in terms of building themselves back up and recovering emotionally to feel the freedom to fall in love or even feel attracted to a man.

I agree.

I found Janvi's fear of men at the beginning of her "Sia" transition much more believable than any move towards Raghav as a potential new love interest from HER viewpoint. I'm stunned she trusts him so implicitly as well--she really hardly knows him, and she is a victim of abuse, and would not trust her own judgment regarding men right now.

I agree. The development from her total fear of men to trusting Raghav was sped up and made little sense.

I would say she is still is very much within a victim mentality. I personally don't have a problem with her staying silent about Viraj's identity. I don't blame her for basically being paralyzed and just not doing anything proactive regarding the sociopath in the guest room.

I can't quite agree on this. You see, I do understand her victim mentality to an extent. But when it comes to her putting others lives in danger, I can't side or sympathize with her.

She has a victim mentality, yes. But, in my eyes, she stopped being a victim when she'd been given a new opportunity to live her life away from V and got all the help she'd need to make it happen. That she chose to stay, stick around him for whatever reasons -- that was her decision, her choice. That she chose to remain Jahnvi inside -- that, too, was her choice. She is victimizing herself now.

It's hard to break free from someone's mental clutches. But one should at least make an honest attempt rather than half-hearted ones. Otherwise the question is: Does she even want to be free?

That is realistic, actually--She cannot confront Viraj even when he is there because she is still terrified of him, flashbacks to his abuse, has living nightmares when she sees him around. Mentally, she is still broken, and the fact she is even thinking of becoming Janvi again says she has not mentally left him, nor accepted that he cannot treat her this way . She still is his prisoner in her head--right now she cant be rational and share her story--because she is still living her story.

You're right. But some things are just common sense. Telling someone that V had come to take her back to hell -- when she has all the support she needs around her -- seems to be common sense, not a complicated equation. Running away while V was unconscious seemed to be common sense, not a complicated equation that required deeply rational thinking.

In relation to this, I'll add your sharp observation -- she is still a prisoner in her head in the sense that she's somehow addicted to the fear that V invoked in her. She is drawn to him and mentally held prisoner by him.

In that sense, she might be a victim -- one can say.

The fact she has not fully confronted Viraj and dealt with his abuse by addressing it in some way--by confronting him, telling someone about him, even telling Raghav or this new family his real name-- this means she is not in recovery. she is still living through what has happened.

She was never in recovery. She was always lying to herself about facing her fears.

I think the most she could do given her mental state, she has already done--returning to the family instead of bolting and running way, as she initially did. she came back to stop Viraj from torturing them to locate her, and she is around him, even in spite of her terror, so he wont take her absence out on them when he recovers.That was pretty brave of her, but there has to be a limit to what an abuse victim can be expected to do. She cant do more--and she has chosen to do and say nothing else because she truly is too frightened to act beyond just being there around him.

That doesn't make perfect sense though. If she returned, he'd still punish them for having been close to his Jahnvi. Like he punished her family. In the end, her return wouldn't have the desired effect. If he wanted to punish them, he would. And then he'd drag her back.

I can understand her fear and how it overpowers her. But I can't fathom how, in spite of having all the support she needs against him, she can't even confide in Komal. If she could return for the sake of Krish's protection, then why can't she tell the truth for the sake of his protection? What's the point in returning if she can't protect him anyway? She might as well protect herself, then, by running.

A large part of her recovery will be when she confronts Viraj, telling him, for her own sake, that he has hurt her, and she will not take any more, and she will be divorcing him. She may have physically escaped as Sia, but she is running away from who she is, pretending a part of her is dead, and this is not healthy, nor can it last because she is BOTH Sia and Janvi, past and present. Addressing what has happened to her is something she cannot do right now, and no consideration of other people would be natural for her to make right now. She cant even speak around Viraj right now, and this shows she is far from ready to be with a new guy.

I can agree on this. Just one point: She can't overcome any consideration for others right now, then what's she doing in the house within V's grasp?