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Posted: 8 years ago
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Before starting this topic, I want to make a disclaimer that this post is just meant to clarify some pointers of the Omkara fans. I have seen that there has been a lot of misconception about the fandom and it is said that these people are never happy, although I do not represent the entire fandom, nor am I friends with everyone, however I have interacted with most of the people and hence can claim that my view would be applicable to more than 80% of the fandom (at least those who are in the AT)

So first of all, the entire Omkara fandom was excited with the news of Shrenu's entry she was the first female lead whose was unanimously liked by all, most of us had seen her earlier shows and knew about her acting capabilities. Then we started getting the Shrenal segments which showed the kind of chemistry that Shrenal had, which further strengthened our faith.

When DBO started the first two weeks had reinstated our believes that their story would be great, because although Gauri wasn't not grey (as we had anticipated and hoped for and no previous commitment is needed for expecting) but she was someone who was self confident and no nonsensical kind of girl, someone who was ready to fight for her rights and existence, someone who was from a small town or a village, but was as tech savy as one could be.

But this all gone after first two weeks of DBO, after this Shrenu's acting and Shrenal chemistry was the only saving grace in the entire show. Suddenly forgot what she used to be, she became the charanon ki dasi of Omkara, I agree Omkara saved her life and also married her, hence her being indebted to Omkara and having respect for him was natural but there is a distinct line between being indebted, respecting the other and suddenly falling for that person and starting worshipping that person, collecting the footprints of that person, giving the person the status of God, which Gauri started doing.

This is in no way being traditional, so let me clarify once and for all that our tradition was never so regressive that women had to forget their self esteem, yes after marriage a girl is expected to be completely dedicated to her husband but there are also a lot other things that needs to happen, the 7 pheras of marriage, each is the symbol of a vachan, where in first 6 vachans are given by the husband that the girl would always be his first priority and have equal rights in his life, his accomplishments, his property and even his virtues, it is after that these 6 vachans are given by the husband that the girl is asked to give the 7th vachan to her husband that she would completely dedicate herself to him. Our religion actually speaks about woman not being regressive and dedicating herself only to the person who is ready to share his existence with the girl, but here Omkara is not doing anything like that, he is simply humiliating her and calling her names due to his confusion, hence Gauri being dedicated to this man is not even correct as per religion.
Gauri being a villager is again no excuse for her extreme actions, that could at max justify her accepting this sham of marriage (which only in Gul's tellyworld would be accepted in any court of law, or any religious institution) but not her doing aarti of her husband as not even the villagers do that

Yes there are most of the tellyworld heroines today who are always into sacrificing mode as those bring TRPs (although this concept is still alien to me, in the TRP buster shows like KSKBT and Kahani Ghar Ghar ki the girls never were so regressive, Tulsi had thrown her husband out of their family house when she got to know that he had been cheating onto her and in KGGK, Parvati herself left the house with her husband and daughter when she felt that her in laws weren't giving her the respect she deserved, despite knowing the fact that the villain is there in that house and she would completely destroy the extended family if she wasn't there to stop her, but for her, her self respect mattered more, even in the show Sasural genda Phool of 2010-2012 which again was a TRP show, the supporting protagonist denied to accept her cheater husband, and the lead heroine summoned the entire family and alleged her husband in the worst possible way, just at a slight confusion of him cheating onto her, so definitely these TRP audience are not aunties, but probably someone who have started watching the show in last 5-6 years), but then my point is if all the tellywood heroines do exactly these things, then what is special about this show? We as Om's fan (or rather Obbros fans), had signed for a show which would break this stereotype, where there would be no sacrificing heroines, where the girl would have self respect along with love. Someone who would be a change to routine, weren't we told that the girl would show Om that grey zone exists between good and bad? Did Gauri do anything like that?

The Chulbul track was probably needed as said by many to develop a bond between RiKara which wouldn't have otherwise happened since Omkara hated Gauri, but then the CVs even destroyed that with the pseudo gaymance of Chulkara and those shock laga scenes and Omkara himself doubting his orientation. Secondly yes Chulkara friendship was necessary, but this was always one sided for Chulbul Om was always his Pati Parmeshwar and never a friend, as friendship happens between equals which was never there. There was also no trust factor there, since Chulbul did hide from Omkara about being hired by Swetlana.

We are disappointed because the immense talent of Shrenu isn't being utilized, we are being disappointed because the sizzling chemistry of Shrenal is not being explored, we are disappointed because the tracks which could have been great interesting ones have been made baseless. We are disappointed because the show we love is promoting regressive thinking and yes we are the members of this forum and someone who have waited for Omkara's story for months so we have equal rights to express our disappointment on not getting the kind of product which was anticipated?

P.S. We never said that everything was Gauri's fault, for us the biggest issue with DBO is that Omkara is not Om whose story we always wanted, to give this show the makers have ruined the basic essence of Omkara, he was never this dumb and uselessly angry, ab aisa Omkara ko kar diya to uski FL ko to aisee hi hona padega shayad but what can we do ye dono isse bahut achhi story and tracks de sakte the, ye potential loss bura lagta hai

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Honestly,I don't have any problem with Gauri's character as she's not the reason I started watching the show for. I've problem with omkara's characterization, where is the Omkara who was the sole reason I started watching DBO? First few weeks of the show were good, the tashan between Svetkara was treat to watch.

About chulbul track, I understand the track was necessary. I initially enjoyed the current scenes when obros were around. But what was the need to go too far? Hugging and all that, Omkara still not getting it that chulbul is a girl. I was frustrated with this track upto the point that I even hate it when om says chulbul.

And what was Omkara even doing last week? Just giving the same angrykara expressions. It has become monotonous now.

Thanks for clearing about ur tradition...even I was confused regarding touching husband's feet...I mean u bow down in front of ur parents and elders...I thought it was okay for u to touch husband's feet.



Ps. There was no need to give justification to the people who are never going to understand.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Nothing more to add Preet. You summed up everything.

And ha get ready you may get a counter post from positivity filled people. And you may get taunts of even after 2 months of show you are expecting something new kind, actors are happy with this because they talked to some people. So get ready for that Gul ke bahuth lawyers hain😆


I appreciate you for this effort
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Before starting this topic, I want to make a disclaimer that this post is just meant to clarify some pointers of the Omkara fans. I have seen that there has been a lot of misconception about the fandom and it is said that these people are never happy, although I do not represent the entire fandom, nor am I friends with everyone, however I have interacted with most of the people and hence can claim that my view would be applicable to more than 80% of the fandom (at least those who are in the AT)

So first of all, the entire Omkara fandom was excited with the news of Shrenu's entry she was the first female lead whose was unanimously liked by all, most of us had seen her earlier shows and knew about her acting capabilities. Then we started getting the Shrenal segments which showed the kind of chemistry that Shrenal had, which further strengthened our faith.

When DBO started the first two weeks had reinstated our believes that their story would be great, because although Gauri wasn't not grey (as we had anticipated and hoped for and no previous commitment is needed for expecting) but she was someone who was self confident and no nonsensical kind of girl, someone who was ready to fight for her rights and existence, someone who was from a small town or a village, but was as tech savy as one could be.

But this all gone after first two weeks of DBO, after this Shrenu's acting and Shrenal chemistry was the only saving grace in the entire show. Suddenly forgot what she used to be, she became the charanon ki dasi of Omkara, I agree Omkara saved her life and also married her, hence her being indebted to Omkara and having respect for him was natural but there is a distinct line between being indebted, respecting the other and suddenly falling for that person and starting worshipping that person, collecting the footprints of that person, giving the person the status of God, which Gauri started doing.

This is in no way being traditional, so let me clarify once and for all that our tradition was never so regressive that women had to forget their self esteem, yes after marriage a girl is expected to be completely dedicated to her husband but there are also a lot other things that needs to happen, the 7 pheras of marriage, each is the symbol of a vachan, where in first 6 vachans are given by the husband that the girl would always be his first priority and have equal rights in his life, his accomplishments, his property and even his virtues, it is after that these 6 vachans are given by the husband that the girl is asked to give the 7th vachan to her husband that she would completely dedicate herself to him. Our religion actually speaks about woman not being regressive and dedicating herself only to the person who is ready to share his existence with the girl, but here Omkara is not doing anything like that, he is simply humiliating her and calling her names due to his confusion, hence Gauri being dedicated to this man is not even correct as per religion.
Gauri being a villager is again no excuse for her extreme actions, that could at max justify her accepting this sham of marriage (which only in Gul's tellyworld would be accepted in any court of law, or any religious institution) but not her doing aarti of her husband as not even the villagers do that

Yes there are most of the tellyworld heroines today who are always into sacrificing mode as those bring TRPs (although this concept is still alien to me, in the TRP buster shows like KSKBT and Kahani Ghar Ghar ki the girls never were so regressive, Tulsi had thrown her husband out of their family house when she got to know that he had been cheating onto her and in KGGK, Parvati herself left the house with her husband and daughter when she felt that her in laws weren't giving her the respect she deserved, despite knowing the fact that the villain is there in that house and she would completely destroy the extended family if she wasn't there to stop her, but for her, her self respect mattered more, even in the show Sasural genda Phool of 2010-2012 which again was a TRP show, the supporting protagonist denied to accept her cheater husband, and the lead heroine summoned the entire family and alleged her husband in the worst possible way, just at a slight confusion of him cheating onto her, so definitely these TRP audience are not aunties, but probably someone who have started watching the show in last 5-6 years), but then my point is if all the tellywood heroines do exactly these things, then what is special about this show? We as Om's fan (or rather Obbros fans), had signed for a show which would break this stereotype, where there would be no sacrificing heroines, where the girl would have self respect along with love. Someone who would be a change to routine, weren't we told that the girl would show Om that grey zone exists between good and bad? Did Gauri do anything like that?

The Chulbul track was probably needed as said by many to develop a bond between RiKara which wouldn't have otherwise happened since Omkara hated Gauri, but then the CVs even destroyed that with the pseudo gaymance of Chulkara and those shock laga scenes and Omkara himself doubting his orientation. Secondly yes Chulkara friendship was necessary, but this was always one sided for Chulbul Om was always his Pati Parmeshwar and never a friend, as friendship happens between equals which was never there. There was also no trust factor there, since Chulbul did hide from Omkara about being hired by Swetlana.

We are disappointed because the immense talent of Shrenu isn't being utilized, we are being disappointed because the sizzling chemistry of Shrenal is not being explored, we are disappointed because the tracks which could have been great interesting ones have been made baseless. We are disappointed because the show we love is promoting regressive thinking and yes we are the members of this forum and someone who have waited for Omkara's story for months so we have equal rights to express our disappointment on not getting the kind of product which was anticipated?

P.S. We never said that everything was Gauri's fault, for us the biggest issue with DBO is that Omkara is not Om whose story we always wanted, to give this show the makers have ruined the basic essence of Omkara, he was never this dumb and uselessly angry, ab aisa Omkara ko kar diya to uski FL ko to aisee hi hona padega shayad but what can we do ye dono isse bahut achhi story and tracks de sakte the, ye potential loss bura lagta hai


u said it dear...and tht 2 very beautifully. ...only if cvs read ths and realise why we r not happy...we r still keeping hope for some change...I have no problem wid gauris character only thing which I dnt like is her pp jaap and crying scenes...about omkara I dnt knw but may be cvs r trying to show that one incident changed him and gauris love will bring old omkara back...lets hope for the best
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Posted: 8 years ago
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If u r on insta or twitter na plz share same post wid cast and writer of DBO ...may be something will change...
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Posted: 8 years ago
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I just read the first 5 paras of this post (I didn't watch any serials except Ipkkndebp and now DBO) . I also expected Shrenu in a different character. I also liked Gouri in first few episodes. I didn't watch Omkara before. So I have no high expectation on Omkara character. At first I didn't like when Gouri character was changed into Chulbul . Slowly I was addicted to Chulbul because of her antics . Omkara character also impressed me when he sought a good friendship with Chulbul because of his family situation.
According to me it was correct that Gouri entered into Omkara house as a disguise. .Swetlana character is also a need one for story progressing. But all her scenes have just overdosed. So the expectation of Omkara character dimmed as his fiance overran in this show.


Yes, Gouri was shown as a strong character. A minute incident can change a person into coward from a brave one. At first her mother's love made her a coward and then a death threats made her a devotee of her saviour. Definitely some other incidents will make her a strong or grey one in future. So I can't find any fault that village girl.


Among the whole things of this show , I hate only one thing. Villain and the vampire are given more importance than the hero heroins. If they show Omkara-Gouri in one frame more with proper script and dialogues , this show will get success automatically because they have a fantastic chemistry.

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Posted: 8 years ago
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Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Before starting this topic, I want to make a disclaimer that this post is just meant to clarify some pointers of the Omkara fans. I have seen that there has been a lot of misconception about the fandom and it is said that these people are never happy, although I do not represent the entire fandom, nor am I friends with everyone, however I have interacted with most of the people and hence can claim that my view would be applicable to more than 80% of the fandom (at least those who are in the AT)

So first of all, the entire Omkara fandom was excited with the news of Shrenu's entry she was the first female lead whose was unanimously liked by all, most of us had seen her earlier shows and knew about her acting capabilities. Then we started getting the Shrenal segments which showed the kind of chemistry that Shrenal had, which further strengthened our faith.

When DBO started the first two weeks had reinstated our believes that their story would be great, because although Gauri wasn't not grey (as we had anticipated and hoped for and no previous commitment is needed for expecting) but she was someone who was self confident and no nonsensical kind of girl, someone who was ready to fight for her rights and existence, someone who was from a small town or a village, but was as tech savy as one could be.

But this all gone after first two weeks of DBO, after this Shrenu's acting and Shrenal chemistry was the only saving grace in the entire show. Suddenly forgot what she used to be, she became the charanon ki dasi of Omkara, I agree Omkara saved her life and also married her, hence her being indebted to Omkara and having respect for him was natural but there is a distinct line between being indebted, respecting the other and suddenly falling for that person and starting worshipping that person, collecting the footprints of that person, giving the person the status of God, which Gauri started doing.

This is in no way being traditional, so let me clarify once and for all that our tradition was never so regressive that women had to forget their self esteem, yes after marriage a girl is expected to be completely dedicated to her husband but there are also a lot other things that needs to happen, the 7 pheras of marriage, each is the symbol of a vachan, where in first 6 vachans are given by the husband that the girl would always be his first priority and have equal rights in his life, his accomplishments, his property and even his virtues, it is after that these 6 vachans are given by the husband that the girl is asked to give the 7th vachan to her husband that she would completely dedicate herself to him. Our religion actually speaks about woman not being regressive and dedicating herself only to the person who is ready to share his existence with the girl, but here Omkara is not doing anything like that, he is simply humiliating her and calling her names due to his confusion, hence Gauri being dedicated to this man is not even correct as per religion.
Gauri being a villager is again no excuse for her extreme actions, that could at max justify her accepting this sham of marriage (which only in Gul's tellyworld would be accepted in any court of law, or any religious institution) but not her doing aarti of her husband as not even the villagers do that

Yes there are most of the tellyworld heroines today who are always into sacrificing mode as those bring TRPs (although this concept is still alien to me, in the TRP buster shows like KSKBT and Kahani Ghar Ghar ki the girls never were so regressive, Tulsi had thrown her husband out of their family house when she got to know that he had been cheating onto her and in KGGK, Parvati herself left the house with her husband and daughter when she felt that her in laws weren't giving her the respect she deserved, despite knowing the fact that the villain is there in that house and she would completely destroy the extended family if she wasn't there to stop her, but for her, her self respect mattered more, even in the show Sasural genda Phool of 2010-2012 which again was a TRP show, the supporting protagonist denied to accept her cheater husband, and the lead heroine summoned the entire family and alleged her husband in the worst possible way, just at a slight confusion of him cheating onto her, so definitely these TRP audience are not aunties, but probably someone who have started watching the show in last 5-6 years), but then my point is if all the tellywood heroines do exactly these things, then what is special about this show? We as Om's fan (or rather Obbros fans), had signed for a show which would break this stereotype, where there would be no sacrificing heroines, where the girl would have self respect along with love. Someone who would be a change to routine, weren't we told that the girl would show Om that grey zone exists between good and bad? Did Gauri do anything like that?

The Chulbul track was probably needed as said by many to develop a bond between RiKara which wouldn't have otherwise happened since Omkara hated Gauri, but then the CVs even destroyed that with the pseudo gaymance of Chulkara and those shock laga scenes and Omkara himself doubting his orientation. Secondly yes Chulkara friendship was necessary, but this was always one sided for Chulbul Om was always his Pati Parmeshwar and never a friend, as friendship happens between equals which was never there. There was also no trust factor there, since Chulbul did hide from Omkara about being hired by Swetlana.

We are disappointed because the immense talent of Shrenu isn't being utilized, we are being disappointed because the sizzling chemistry of Shrenal is not being explored, we are disappointed because the tracks which could have been great interesting ones have been made baseless. We are disappointed because the show we love is promoting regressive thinking and yes we are the members of this forum and someone who have waited for Omkara's story for months so we have equal rights to express our disappointment on not getting the kind of product which was anticipated?

P.S. We never said that everything was Gauri's fault, for us the biggest issue with DBO is that Omkara is not Om whose story we always wanted, to give this show the makers have ruined the basic essence of Omkara, he was never this dumb and uselessly angry, ab aisa Omkara ko kar diya to uski FL ko to aisee hi hona padega shayad but what can we do ye dono isse bahut achhi story and tracks de sakte the, ye potential loss bura lagta hai




Ohh..some fellow oldie you are..i also started watching tv from 1995 wheb zee tv used to show campus and commando and star plus was technically a star world with bold and beautiful and bsywatch and sony tv launch advertisments were there with jackie shroff!(those were the days of 4-5 satellite channels) 😆 ..shapath..hum paanch aashirwaad amanat margarita..all completely different non saasbahu shows on a single channel (zee tv)

Then ekta comes (actually she was pretty solid in hum panch production) with saas bahu saga and all sacrificnng female leads and change the scenario..but you are completely right in remembering that even mihir-mandira saga tulsi was not weak, nor she was weak in ansh saga..same with parvati..prerna,,sujal.shaina sikand,..etc..the female leads were sacrifing in nature (probably that is what sold in the market)..but they were relatively better (and that is relative)..in my 22 years of tv viewing and almost 1000+ shows..i initally felt that IB could be the serial that will become my top 10-20 indian tv shows ever seen..the reason was for the first time the focus is on the three brothers and not on female leads and so on)..i expecter fun, sense and newness in the stories..started well..with three different chsrscters..three different brothers...but what have they done!!!..a huge wasted opportunity..before start of the show i had two fears..that once one of the brother story will start moving..theg will shift the focus on that brother only..and two they will start showing run of the mill stories..and here we are..my mother, a retired school prinicipal at age of 60 simply dont like gauri character (yeh kya kar rahi hain")..i can see how girls half or 1/3rd of her will coneect to gauri..they complete destroyed omkara character and to make situation worse they gave us this character of gauri..what next..rudra to become om/shivaay like after tej btrayal and saumya death and will not believe in love and then soke girl come and convince him through sheer dedication..if uday chopra gives us pyaar impossible and shahrukh khan gives us pyaar impossible..there is bound to be different quantity of dusappointment...same with the show..

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Posted: 8 years ago
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My biggest issue is omkara character. He is getting too much damaged . His character is loosing basics. The charm his character had in past already lost. Now he is becoming clone of typical dumb AYM. I will never forgive gul for this.
Even ekta is better than her. I think I need to change my signature.
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Posted: 8 years ago
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Loved your post!
Seriously i dont like this Om anymore!
Cvs should understand they are destroying him day by day!
They jus wasted a lot of episodes on svetlana and her bakwaas. Still doing
They cud have made chulbhul a rikara shipper.
Made om closer to gauri thru chulbhul.

Why showing Om as an angry young man? For what?
Om's character had a beautiful feeling. The love in his words and shayari.

Still cvs have a chance.
The misunderstanding btwn rikara shd clear with this kaali track and om shd get gauri back to OM and rikara should throw svetlana out together, start exploring the relationship between them with our old OM back!


Maybe we should all put in a request post on twitter or insta to get our OM back 😭
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Posted: 8 years ago
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You have said all and quite beautifully too Preet, can't add to it😊

All I want from CVs is to bring Omkara Singh Oberoi back. This Om is unrecognisable to me. I can enjoy RiKara only when I will be happy getting 'IB wala Om' back with his hair open.

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