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Posted: 13 years ago
#41

Originally posted by: -simirck-


No dear, its a kind of a show off for the rich people. They buy an animal, take it to the temple, a person appointed by the temple kills the animal, the blood is offered to the idol and the remaining meat is taken by the person whose animal was.
It wud hav been much better if people stopped this and offered coconut or other offerings. Wud god want to see their own creation die in front of them? God lies within us, if we change our view and accept the good side of our life..we will always hav our lord's hand on our head.


probably. But i have not really seen rich people showing off by sacrifices. In bengal atleast rich people r much to sophisticated to even admit they visit temples😆

Usually in kali temples or mother temples i have visited,they use pumpkin as its size and inside represents our vices 😕

No one wants to see their creations die, but then again, who are we to question what is right or what i wrong? I don't believe in sacrifices and i won't do it. if someone does it, i would protest showing my logic. . But i would also protest on the way chickens are carried in poultry vans or goats are tied up before cutting them in meat shop.

Its just that the moment people add religion to it, some people seem tobe vigilant in condemning all things Hindu, while standing in queue for meat in meat shop.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#42

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0033ff">probably. But i have not really seen rich people showing off by sacrifices. In bengal atleast rich people r much to sophisticated to even admit they visit temples😆</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0033ff">Usually in kali temples or mother temples i have visited,they use pumpkin as its size and inside represents our vices😕</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0033ff">No one wants to see their creations die, but then again, who are we to question what is right or what i wrong? I don't believe in sacrifices and i won't do it. if someone does it, i would protest showing my logic. . But i would also protest on the way chickens are carried in poultry vans or goats are tied up before cutting them in meat shop.</font>

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0033ff">Its just that the moment people add religion to it, some people seem tobe vigilant in condemning all things Hindu, while standing in queue for meat in meat shop.</font>


yeah, probably. My thinking must be like that coz I had seen a short film when I was little. Lol. It was about a poor servant who steals a goat from the temple because he wants to fulfill his family's demands and how he became a social outcast at the end. It was based on the festival dashain.

And wow pumpkin offering? That's the first time I've heard about it. I knew only about coconut. And yeah I see Madvadis doing grand pujas over here. Wud love to see Indian temples and pujas too!

Even I was non-vegitarian till I was eight, after that till 15 and a half I was vegitarian and now I am non veg again. (sometimes I feel really stupid,lol)
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Posted: 13 years ago
#43
I am non-vegetarian as well, so I won't totally complain about animal sacrifices. However, I do support cruelty against animals laws, and I do prefer that they be stunned or anesthetized b4 they are killed so that they don't suffer b4 dying. Making a bloody spectacle of a temple sounds too ghastly.

I thought that coconuts are used - I've never seen pumpkins be used in this way. But I agree w/ kkr531 that the logic is the same - just b'cos plants don't bleed or have a nervous system - does that automatically mean that it's okay to cut them? At any rate, religious practices have evolved. For instance, @ Saraswati pujas the last few years, I've seen laptops accompany books when being put next to the devi. iPads and Microsoft Surfaces will be next (assuming the latter even takes off) 😆

Incidentally, Kalighat ain't too far from where I live. I've never seen or heard of goats being sacrificed there.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#44

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

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Incidentally, Kalighat ain't too far from where I live. I've never seen or heard of goats being sacrificed there.


they do, once a while and u get mahaprashad, but its very rare occassion now. Harikath ta more or less ornamental.

might i ask kothay thako? kalighat is not too far from where i live either.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#45
Last time my family was in Benares, we went to various smaller devi shrines where we were told animal sacrifices continued to happen.

Was a quite a shock at first. I knew this was an ancient practice, but I thought this would have pretty much died out by now. But, obviously not.

I also recently saw a docu film about sacrifice at a sitala devi temple somewhere in Calcutta. So it probably still happens in shrines to local deities. I've heard of this happening in interior S. India as well, but haven't witnessed it myself.
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Posted: 13 years ago
#46
i am glad bcoz of my 1 question,an interesting discussion on animal sacrifice is going on.😃yesterday,someone in ipkknd forum made a topic against animal sacrifices and how ruthlessly ppl kill da animals.Yaar,i can't tell u what reaction dat person got frm those members.almost everybody dere supported animal sacrifice and made fun of him like anything.I am glad members here r discussing maturely abt dis topic.Anyways,we must be bak 2 grilling our 3 dkdmians,shdn't we?😛
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Posted: 13 years ago
#47
"grilling" ...pun intended?! 😆
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Posted: 13 years ago
#48
Naah, the animal sacrifice discussion is much more interesting 😆 Thanks for bringing it up 👍🏼 - gives me the opportunity to continue hijacking this thread w/ this topic 😈

I'm not sure that it's right to make the issue of killing animals an ethical issue (unless one is PETA and wants to go through the 'meat is murder' slogan of theirs). Animals don't have rights the way people do, since they don't (and can't) make and keep agreements. Ever seen the Discovery Channel, or National Geographic channels, of cheetahs, hyenas, lions etc and the way they hunt down gazelles, zebras, gnus and a whole bunch of other animals? Essentially, what that illustrates is that they are part of the food chain. If we shouldn't hunt lions, they shouldn't hunt zebras, who in turn shouldn't. hunt plants... See where I'm getting @?

In fact, some texts also have it that animals, when killed for being eaten, get reborn into higher life forms i.e. humans. Don't recall where I read this, or which texts have it, but it's there. Just like humans keep getting reborn until they come to a point that they attain moksha. For the animals, this ladder is taller.

In fact, the Ashwamedha yagna - the famous horse sacrifice that was I think first done by Indra to atone for the killing of Vritra, and then performed by kshatriyas ever since - was an yagna done to propriate Mahadev, and cover a wide variety of sins, from Brahmhatya to a whole range of others. At the end of it all, the horse was sacrificed in the yagna, and its meat was distributed as prasad. As noted above, religious practices do evolve, and a lot of temples do substitute coconuts for goats, but aside from the suffering of the animals - something that can be mitigated when they are anesthetized b4 being slaughtered - there ain't a compelling reason why it's okay to offer fruits instead of animals.

This is not meant to make fun of people who are against it, just that I wanted to point out that animal rights isn't a strong argument to go against it.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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Subha dear, lol, that's exactly what I was thinking? The discussion has shifted to animal sacrifices but it really is very interesting.

Now if u people want to see the real animal sacrifice, u must go to Gadhimai temple(not that any one of u want to=D) This is the place where world's largest killing takes place. Thousands of buffalos, goats, rats, pigs and chickens are killed. I hav seen the photos and oh god it is a bloody scene, a field full of headless buffs.

Now this is what I call pure cruelty. This festival takes place in every 4 year. Even Menaka Gandhi pleaded to the government to stop this ruthless massacre, but no one cud because accn to them this huge killing was performed in the name of religious beliefs.
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Posted: 13 years ago
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@ Samana i too hard dat animals were slaughtered in the ritualistic bloodbath only to please Goddess Gadhimai...

Btw. this rituals are also prevalent in Kamakhya temple...the priests ruthlessly drags the baby goat to the chopping block and the other one brings down the hatchet and within a min they cut into small pieces u knw the whole scenerio looks pathetic and horrible...and the funniest thing is dat they call it as a ritual sacrifice...lol...

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