It keeps getting more painful each passing day. If the parents are innocent then god knows how they are coping with these new "facts" coming to light.
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NEW DELHI: Hard pressed to assign a motive for the horrific murders of Noida teenager Aarushi Talwar and her family's domestic help, the CBI on Friday questioned the police in the suburban town. The UP police have been charged with botching up their probe into the incident and prompting the federal agency to step in. The CBI also conducted a second polygraph test on Aarushi's dentist father, Rajesh Talwar, who has been arrested and charged with the murders. "We questioned the Noida police personnel who had initially investigated the case," CBI Joint Director Arun Kumar said, without giving any details. A CBI source said seven to eight police personnel were questioned but "it is not clear who exactly was interrogated". The lie detector test on Rajesh Talwar was conducted at the Central Forensic Science Laboratory (CFSL) here on Friday morning. "We took Talwar to the CFSL this morning for conducting another lie detector test," the CBI source said. The agency had on Thursday moved an application in a special CBI court in adjacent Ghaziabad town for conducting a second polygraph test on the dentist as the first one had proved inconclusive. During the hearing, judge Sapna Mishra Tripathi, after going through the CBI's case diary, had rejected Talwar's bail plea and extended his judicial custody by 14 days. The agency has questioned a number of people but is nowhere near zeroing in the motive for the crime. Late Thursday, the CBI subjected dentist couple Praful and Anita Durani, who are friends of Talwar and his wife Nupur, to a lie detector test. The couple had previously been questioned in their Sector 53 home in Noida and the police had even searched the premises. The CBI has also questioned the Durani's domestic help Rajkumar, as also Vijay Mandal, who works in an apartment in the same block as the Talwars and was a friend of Hemraj. "Rajkumar was once again picked up this (Friday) morning and is being interrogated at the headquarters along with Vijay Mandal and Krishna," the CBI source said. Vijay Mandal was subjected to a lie detector test Thursday, while a psychological test was conducted on Rajkumar. |
Dr Talwar clueless about killer:
Source NDTV Correspondent
Friday, June 20, 2008 (New Delhi)
The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) has conducted a fresh lie detector test on Aarushi's father Rajesh Talwar as the first had been inconclusive.
The agency is hoping to get some concrete leads in the murder investigations, which so far have made little headway.
The CBI recreated the scene of crime at the Talwar residence.
The CBI and forensic experts have concluded that Talwars could not have heard any sounds of struggle over the noise of ACs, even though door of Aarushi's room was open.
Sources have said that Rajesh Talwar has no idea who killed his daughter and he did not even suspect anyone. Sources also said that Dr Talwar was stressed and in a state of shock.
As per the sources, Aarushi's mother Nupur Talwar was emotional during her test. It added that the Talwar couple conceived Aarushi after five years of treatment at the Gangaram Hospital, therefore there was hardly any motive of the murder.
Meanwhile, CBI told NDTV that Rajesh Talwar's compounder-cum-receptionist Krishna gave conflicting statements in his scientific tests.
In the psycho analysis test, Krishna said he was not present during murders while in the narco test, he said that he was present during the murders.
As per sources, Krishna said in the narco test that Rajkumar killed Aarushi.
After reading this I am more than convinced that the C.B.I. is completely clueless after all these weeks of hounding any and everyone. What is more all the tests that they are subjecting all the suspects to, are proving to be very unreliable, since the results of the same tests vary each day.
What baffles me the most is why the C.B.I. keeps on opposing Dr. Talwar's release on bail? Obviously they have nothing substantive to keep him locked up, yet they continue to do just that. All the investigation methods being employed by the C.B.I. on all the "suspects" are way too similar to the Gestapo tactics during World War II. That scares me the most.
The Indian Judiciary and Lawmakers really need to visit the absolute powers that have been granted to this agency. From everything I have read in the newspapers and viewed on the TV, I see nothing but a blatant abuse and total disreagrd for the rights of the people being investigated by the C.B.I.
@shefali_123.
Is covering the accused person's head a normal police practice in India? If true, then I guess that is a great reading between the lines. Good observation shefali_123ji. Thank you.
Humm...because of this case, I have learned something new about how the Indian Police operate every single day.
Originally posted by: bunbutt_too
After reading this I am more than convinced that the C.B.I. is completely clueless after all these weeks of hounding any and everyone. What is more all the tests that they are subjecting all the suspects to, are proving to be very unreliable, since the results of the same tests vary each day.
What baffles me the most is why the C.B.I. keeps on opposing Dr. Talwar's release on bail? Obviously they have nothing substantive to keep him locked up, yet they continue to do just that. All the investigation methods being employed by the C.B.I. on all the "suspects" are way too similar to the Gestapo tactics during World War II. That scares me the most.
The Indian Judiciary and Lawmakers really need to visit the absolute powers that have been granted to this agency. From everything I have read in the newspapers and viewed on the TV, I see nothing but a blatant abuse and total disreagrd for the rights of the people being investigated by the C.B.I.
Originally posted by: bunbutt_too
@shefali_123.
Is covering the accused person's head a normal police practice in India? If true, then I guess that is a great reading between the lines. Good observation shefali_123ji. Thank you.
Humm...because of this case, I have learned something new about how the Indian Police operate every single day.
Yes normally in murder cases or terrorism cases the accused's faces are always covered by the police or CBI, the faces are covered even when they are produced in court.
Even in the Nithari case the servant's face was always covered and he is the main accused.
In this case Rajkumar's face is covered from the past 3-4 days.
Now it seems Hemraj did owe huge amts of money to some people( as allegedly told by Dr Talwar to the Noida police) CBI is also probing this angle because Krishna in his confessional statement allegedly said that Hemraj asked him to bring a khukri, now if this is true was Hemraj expecting certain people to whom he owed money to visit him that night?? It is proved that Hemraj never slept that night.
Besides Hemraj's call details also reveal that he was in touch with many other people besides krishna, rajkumar, talwars and his family. The last call received on his cell phone the night of the murder was from a public phone booth located near Nithari.
The Noida police also might be charged with destruction of evidence it seems and I think they should be, they really botched up the case and never sealed the room or anything, never collected finger prints, they allowed all people to roam freely over there including the media.
Originally posted by: shefali_123
........ Now it seems Hemraj did owe huge amts of money to some people( as allegedly told by Dr Talwar to the Noida police) CBI is also probing this angle because Krishna in his confessional statement allegedly said that Hemraj asked him to bring a khukri, now if this is true was Hemraj expecting certain people to whom he owed money to visit him that night?? It is proved that Hemraj never slept that night.
Besides Hemraj's call details also reveal that he was in touch with many other people besides krishna, rajkumar, talwars and his family. The last call received on his cell phone the night of the murder was from a public phone booth located near Nithari.
Slowly but surely it appears that the motive is surfacing. I am sure the Talwars knew first hand about Hemraj debts. It is quite likely that he may have taken cash advances from them. Hemraj killing certainly looks like the work of professionals. I have totally subscribed to the theory that the late Aarushi was unfortunately in the wrong place at the wrong time from day one. She must have witnessed something and therefore had to be eliminated.
I wish the inept police from Noida and U.P. had been more objective in their investigation instead of rushing to draw totally senseless conclusions. Man, the whole yarn that D.I.G. from Meerat spun on national television was a total farce and a mockery. I am particularly relieved to read that all those sloppy and hasty idiots are going to be held accountable. That would be the first step in the right direction. It is high time that the police all over India learn how to do their job.
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