Should Ram Sethu be destroyed or not? - Page 7

we live in democracy

where everyone has right to speak

but at the end of day majority win

which is respect other's holy sentiments

as for our poltician"s for there montary"s benefits

they can degrade themself to any extent 🤢

Qt, I agree that religious way is not the right here. but in this instance, if we really want to save the Setu, then that is the only way. So many projects which ended up disaster as expected (One example quoted above) Could not be stopped on economic and environment ground. Our leader unfortunately do not get anything if explained intellectually. This is the only language they understand. So willingly or unwillingly religion is the way to stop the project....hurts to say that but is the truth

Originally posted by: Swar_Raj

Qt, I agree that religious way is not the right here. but in this instance, if we really want to save the Setu, then that is the only way. So many projects which ended up disaster as expected (One example quoted above) Could not be stopped on economic and environment ground. Our leader unfortunately do not get anything if explained intellectually. This is the only language they understand. So willingly or unwillingly religion is the way to stop the project....hurts to say that but is the truth

I completely understand this post. My trouble or rather anguish is that why is it that the religious leadership fails to look convincing. The crowd looked more like jobless, senseless, confused and angry people with basically too much time on their hand.

Should the religious resistance be lead by people more LEARNED, well-educated in sanatan dharma and also other religious beliefs , historians and also scientists / other people of authority who can strike a balance between what needs to be done and how not to over-run religious belief of 4 billion?

I was shocked and saddened by the BLABBER of the so called representative sadhubaba talking about some tongue-cutting story. In fact, he pretty much drove me into switching my side over this issue!
Now the next statement is harsh. ☢️ I SERIOUSLY doubt Lord ShriRam in any of His forms ( The supreme energy as I see it) would be supportive of such UNCOUTH, irrational behaviour and demeneour. If this is the representation of our Great Religion, then I am really sad..

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

I completely understand this post. My trouble or rather anguish is that why is it that the religious leadership fails to look convincing. The crowd looked more like jobless, senseless, confused and angry people with basically too much time on their hand.

Should the religious resistance be lead by people more LEARNED, well-educated in sanatan dharma and also other religious beliefs , historians and also scientists / other people of authority who can strike a balance between what needs to be done and how not to over-run religious belief of 4 billion?

I was shocked and saddened by the BLABBER of the so called representative sadhubaba talking about some tongue-cutting story. In fact, he pretty much drove me into switching my side over this issue!
Now the next statement is harsh. ☢️ I SERIOUSLY doubt Lord ShriRam in any of His forms ( The supreme energy as I see it) would be supportive of such UNCOUTH, irrational behaviour and demeneour. If this is the representation of our Great Religion, then I am really sad..

HA AH AH QT, you really have not seen the way it works. You take any field, the grab is on the majority's interest. If you want to sell music, grab new generation in college kids. Dell..go to corporate with lowest bid....same here..to spread sentiments via religion...grab the crowd of low income and worker class. they donot argue. They just listen and nod heads and control their mob, they have no time to or interest by counter question. Why do you think Sonia gandhi is considered "Bharat Varsh ki Bahu". Do I or do you???

Even Bill gates is not aware of this power of our Sadhus.😉

They can never convince me or you but will convince our brain dead leaders in the talks of votes and showing the mob power.

Ram sethu: BJP says it is only trying to save heritage structure

Tuesday, October 02, 2007
17:05 IST

Chennai: Coming down heavily on the DMK for terming as 'fascist', the efforts to stop the proposed demolition of the Ram Sethu, the BJP on Tuesday said that it was only trying to save a heritage structure.

"Saving the Ram Sethu, which symbolises the belief of crores of people, is not fascism. Its a feeling of pride of saving a heritage structure and as appreciable as trying to discover Poompuhar or the city of Dwaraka from underneath the sea by way of undersea expedition," state unit president L Ganesan said in a statement.

Every country takes care to save its heritage structures, he said, adding that the Centre should expedite measures to identify alternative routes for the project.

Criticising Union Information and Broadcasting Minister Priyaranjan Das Munsi's remarks that Karunanidhi was following in the footsteps of Mahatma Gandhi by going on a peaceful fast on Monday in the city, Ganesan drew attention to the September 23 attacks on the BJP and Sangh Parivar's offices by DMK supporters in the state.

"Though the BJP distanced itself from Ram Vilas Vedanti's reported diktat on Karunanidhi's head, they went ahead with their violent attacks," Ganesan said.

Charging the DMK with never going on the path of non violence, he alleged that the party showed its displeasure over the Centre withdrawing its controversial affidavit on Ram Sethu by declaring a bandh.

"Since they had no other go after the Supreme Court stayed the bandh, they went on a fast," Ganesan added.
http://content.msn.co.in/News/National/NationalPreT_021007_1 704.htm

Originally posted by: mermaid_QT

I completely understand this post. My trouble or rather anguish is that why is it that the religious leadership fails to look convincing. The crowd looked more like jobless, senseless, confused and angry people with basically too much time on their hand. Which leadership are you talking about, there is no "leadership" in Hinduism. About the jobless people, that is unfortunalately true for any kind of protest/rally in India. It is mostly people from lower economic strata of society who participate in such acitivities...maybe we, the so-called padhe likhe log should also start participating in such activities.

Should the religious resistance be lead by people more LEARNED, well-educated in sanatan dharma and also other religious beliefs , historians and also scientists / other people of authority who can strike a balance between what needs to be done and how not to over-run religious belief of 4 billion?

I was shocked and saddened by the BLABBER of the so called representative sadhubaba talking about some tongue-cutting story. In fact, he pretty much drove me into switching my side over this issue!
Now the next statement is harsh. ☢️ I SERIOUSLY doubt Lord ShriRam in any of His forms ( The supreme energy as I see it) would be supportive of such UNCOUTH, irrational behaviour and demeneour. If this is the representation of our Great Religion, then I am really sad..

Which Sadhubaba? What representative? People from all walks of life are opposing this project (not only religious but also on economic and ecological grounds). You can't consider some sadhubaba's opinion as country's opinion. Waise I really hate these so called Sadhus/Babas...logo ko ullu banaate hain. I also point finger on media for this, why does the media give bhaav to these babas?

Another interesting article:

Scientists intensify anti-Sethu project stir

Monday, October 01, 2007
11:06 IST

Nagapattinam (Tamil Nadu): Protests against the Sethusamudram Canal Project (SSCP) intensified with a forum of technical experts, non-government organisations and fishermen's Federation undertaking a day long relay fast here last weekend.

The Movement Against Sethusamudram Canal Project said it would begin another relay fast in Nagapattinam from next week that would culminate in a massive protest rally in Rameshwaram.

M. Jeeva, convener of the movement, said the organisation "will stick to the scientific premise of our opposition to the SSCP project" which will adversely impact the livelihood of 7,000 coastal communities.

"It will explain the reasons for its opposition to the SSCP in similar protest programmes across the country, in the wake of several economists also saying it is financially unviable," said Jeeva.

K Gopalakrishnan, S Badrinarayanan and K S Subramanian, three retired directors general of the Geological Survey of India (GSI), are supporting the movement's initiative and have opposed the canal project.

"NEERI (National Environment Engineering Research Institute) which gave environmental clearance to the SSCP did not consult the GSI on the project and the crucial geo-evaluation report has not been done for the project," said Gopalakrishnan.

"The destabilisation of the multifarious barrier zones of Adam's bridge (Ram Sethu) will cause submarine land slides, change currents, cause mini-tsunamis, induce earthquakes in the already quake-prone zone and cause coastal inundations," he said.

"Evidences are available which prove that below the sand, this physical feature (Adam's bridge) forms a distinct geological, geo-tectonic, oceanographic and oceanic divide that has got a specific and very important role to play as a barrier in controlling the different geological and oceanographic activities in this highly fragile and sensitive area," the geologist said.

Gopalakrishnan said GSI data shows very hard crystalline rock deep inside Tamil Nadu. And the east coast of Tamil Nadu has hard sedimentary rock under the sand bars and coral reefs. It is not just sand and coral.

"The heat from these sources transmit through the movements along the various fault zones in the area and are manifest in flowing bore-wells of hot water, which are found all over districts around the Palk Bay. This is not seen anywhere else in Tamil Nadu," the expert pointed out.

"The Palk Bay and Gulf of Mannar region are therefore most vulnerable to earthquakes as it is a high gravity, high heat low area," the geologists said.

M Arunachalam, associate professor of environment studies, at the Manonmaniam Sundaranar University, says that SSCP dredging "was causing an ecological upheaval on the ocean floor, mixing turbid water of the Bay of Bengal with clear water of the Gulf of Mannar".

"All the egg-laying areas of marine fauna, nurseries, juvenile feeding fields, all the life on the sea floor, sea grass, algae, everything in the ecosystem is being disturbed.

"As the canal will have to be constantly kept dredged, ecological restoration will never happen if this project continues," he said.

"If the dredging is stopped even now there can be some hope of nature restoring itself over a period of time," Arunachalam said.

According to the project website, the Sethu channel will be 12 metres deep, 300 metres wide and 89 km long. It will be dredged across the Palk Strait to let ships to sail between east and west coasts of India without having to go around Sri Lanka. This, the government says, will save up to 424 nautical miles (780 km) or 30 hours in sailing time.
http://content.msn.co.in/News/National/NationalIANS_010907_1 106.htm#top
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Anyways..its better not to disturb the Ramsethu😛 religion wise and ecosystem wise😛

Waise ek achha kaam yeh hua ki Dr.Kalaingar ko pehli baar Hindi bolte hua dekha...it was like a nuke explosion for me.

The fact is that the Govt is yet to point out any ecomonic benefits (in monetary terms) that this project is going to accrue..or has it? Ok, for a second leaving aside the religius objections..it hasn't replied to even ecological concerns.

Originally posted by: SolidSnake

Waise ek achha kaam yeh hua ki Dr.Kalaingar ko pehli baar Hindi bolte hua dekha...it was like a nuke explosion for me.

Seems Deepak is happy about Dr Kalaingar's Hindi😛😆.Lord Ram made him speak that😆

Karunanidhi recites Hindi poem in public

Monday, October 01, 2007
13:20 IST

Chennai: Under attack over his recent remarks on Lord Ram and the strong reaction they evoked in the North, Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi has apparently sought to reach out to his detractors by reciting a Hindi poem in a public meeting, an unprecedented act on the part of the Dravidian leader known once for his strong anti-Hindi stance.

Addressing a public meeting late last night in support of the demand for speedy implementation of the Sethusamudram project, he surprised the audience by asking them to join him in reciting the poem.

"Hindustan hai desh hamara, janse apne humko pyara. Hindu, Muslim, Sikh, Isaai aapas main hain bhai bhai. Bhai hoga bhai hamara, aisa hoga chalan hamara (India is our country and we love it more than our lives. Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians are all brothers. Brothers will be brothers, such will be our conduct).

In the meeting he also chided "communal" forces for invoking the name of Ram for putting "obstacles" in the Sethusamudram project. He said the same communal forces had killed Mahatma Gandhi when he was uttering the name of Ram while singing a bhajan.

This is the first time in decades of his public life, Kaunanidhi has spoken in Hindi, a language that was abolished in schools and colleges when the DMK government came to power in 1967 after the anti-Hindi agitation that rocked the then Madras state and led to the exit of the Congress government.
http://content.msn.co.in/News/National/NationalPTI_011007_13 20.htm