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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Bazigar, why did you edit your posts?

If you stick to the topic of Demonetization without bringing in extraneous, arbitrary phrases such as "Modi Bhakts", "hot blood of Muslims", "feku" etc., we could have a decent conversation.


yeah but without those extraneous elements, there would not have been much of anything. Did you read the stuff he posted? There's brilliance and then there was that.😲😆

hey good to see you. Does not seem like much happening here so i am trying to spur things even if it means going after the flaws in our pal CG's arguments vigorously.😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

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hey good to see you. Does not seem like much happening here so i am trying to spur things even if it means going after the flaws in our pal CG's arguments vigorously.😆




Good to see your posts too, Birdie. I have seen a lot of people make arguments but IMO, no one does it with your kind of flair.

Ah, CG! She "suffers" from proof by verbosity sometimes but I think that's because she's just brimming with knowledge.
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Posted: 8 years ago
@Birdie- So you think i favour Congi leaders while Bazigar thinks I am Modi cheerleader. Do let me know which is the final verdict, will help me greatly. Pretty amusing and kinda juvenile to bring this point in debates when the discussion had nothing to do with Cong, nor have I referenced them in any of my arguments . But whatever floats the boat, I guess.
Basic rationality here- Criticize Modi, you are a Congi person.
Make sense of GOI's policies , Modi bhakt. Nice. 😆

Edited by charminggenie - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie



Criticize Modi, you are a Congi person.

Make sense of GOI's policies , Modi bhakt. Nice. 😆



You forgot this: Criticize India and you are a typical NRI 😆
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie

@Birdie- So you think i favour Congi leaders while Bazigar thinks I am Modi cheerleader. Do let me know which is the final verdict, will help me greatly. Pretty amusing and kinda juvenile to bring this point in debates when the discussion had nothing to do with Cong, nor have I referenced them in any of my arguments . But whatever floats the boat, I guess.

Basic rationality here- Criticize Modi, you are a Congi person.
Make sense of GOI's policies , Modi bhakt. Nice. 😆


frankly? frankly, i dont care who you support.😛 I just see that you pick random things to throw out against the current govt, so based on that we make our assumptions in an online world, not that its important. Take your latest random bit about aadhar. How you can relate that to note ban and black money audit, only you would know. But it is disconnected stuff like that. 😉 And sorry to disappoint you, but i am my own bhakt.😉 As for others unrelated to me, when it comes to bhakti or criticism, it's only on a case-by-case, policy-by-policy basis. People dont deserve more credit that way whether raja, runk or punk😆


Edited by BirdieNumNum - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum


frankly? frankly, i dont care who you support.😛 I just see that you pick random things to throw out against the current govt, so based on that we make our assumptions in an online world, not that its important. Take your latest random bit about aadhar. How you can relate that to note ban and black money audit, only you would know. But it is disconnected stuff like that. 😉 And sorry to disappoint you, but i am my own bhakt.😉 As for others unrelated to me, when it comes to bhakti or criticism, it's only on a case-by-case, policy-by-policy basis. People dont deserve more credit that way whether raja, runk or punk😆



But clearly you cared enough about my support or you won't have deduced that I must have a leaning for "intellectual Congi people".Clearly there is a disconnect that you seem to miss quite often. Unless you would have read here that I don't care for the party but for policies , guess because I vote , I am entitled to some opinions. Fundamental Right.

Now how I linked Aadhar with demonitization..oh Birdie, I mentioned here that I will just quote the honourable PM/FM. So , here in their press release linking demonitization with aadhar , in RBI's statement release ( that report I have linked in earlier comment) still paraphrasing from Press Bureau,Aug,31st. Within reach of the country is what might be called the 1 billion-1 billion-1 billion vision i.e. 1 billion unique Aadhaar numbers linked to 1 billion bank accounts and 1 billion mobile phones was intended through this policy. Yet to meet the desired target.

^^ You see this line is issued by RBI's report , approved by Govt. And this statement Govt. released to Press Bureau. Hmm, hence I brought the point of aadhar when you so eloquently mentioned that this policy gave Govt. valuable data which RBI details in it's report ( it's a 10 page mention). it will help you understand how and what Govt. intended to achieve in terms of aadhar , it failed on that account as well through this policy.
My point was Govt. didn't need to implement this policy for data when it had already directed everyone to link their accounts with aadhar giving full access to govt. I am sure the folks in India will attest that GOI has directed everyone to link accounts with Aadhar or their accounts will be seized by Govt by the end of this year. My intent was to mention that demonetization wasn't needed for the data when we already were linking accounts with aadhar and PAN .

Understandably disconnect might happened , might help to read the RBI's report issued on 31st Aug or even Jaitley's press conf. where he talked about aadhar ,linking it with accounts and demonitization. Perhaps you will then get the "connect".

You have a Govt. which is winning elections , why should it bother if I criticize it's policies not like thats going to change anything..NRI vote bank , no. All I talked about were his failures in Kashmir after the strikes which is kinda true given how many soldiers we have lost since then . But thats a random Govt.-mentioned fact. Or lack of performance of many ministers , that is all my opinion, though.


Good for you if you aren't a Bhakt , Congi or whoever. May the forces be with you. 👍🏼


Oh, Also, I am guilty of being verbose , but I promise I won't label anyone with any silly titles for having a different opinions. Thats just petty.
Edited by charminggenie - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
I refrained from replying to your argument about inflation because I really had no idea about your figures because all the recent data has been painting a different picture. Will post links to some https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-12/market-darling-india-has-issues-as-inflation-hits-record-low
CPI breakdown http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/why-you-dont-feel-the-record-low-inflation/article19099425.ece

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/economy/indicators/tomatoes-the-new-enemy-in-indias-fight-against-inflation/articleshow/60112123.cms

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/SUUekiZ6E75AgGtlNWawLI/Retail-inflation-rises-to-236-in-July-on-higher-vegetable.html

While thankfully there is a slight upswing in Aug but thats not a reprieve for the poor,yet, as it continues to trend below the RBI target, only deferring another rate cut by RBI which is centralized at 4%.






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Posted: 8 years ago
@Genie, what's your view on killing of Gauri Lankesh 😊
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Posted: 8 years ago

Originally posted by: charminggenie


But clearly you cared enough about my support or you won't have deduced that I must have a leaning for "intellectual Congi people".Clearly there is a disconnect that you seem to miss quite often. Unless you would have read here that I don't care for the party but for policies , guess because I vote , I am entitled to some opinions. Fundamental Right.

Now how I linked Aadhar with demonitization..oh Birdie, I mentioned here that I will just quote the honourable PM/FM. So , here in their press release linking demonitization with aadhar , in RBI's statement release ( that report I have linked in earlier comment) still paraphrasing from Press Bureau,Aug,31st. Within reach of the country is what might be called the 1 billion-1 billion-1 billion vision i.e. 1 billion unique Aadhaar numbers linked to 1 billion bank accounts and 1 billion mobile phones was intended through this policy. Yet to meet the desired target.

^^ You see this line is issued by RBI's report , approved by Govt. And this statement Govt. released to Press Bureau. Hmm, hence I brought the point of aadhar when you so eloquently mentioned that this policy gave Govt. valuable data which RBI details in it's report ( it's a 10 page mention). it will help you understand how and what Govt. intended to achieve in terms of aadhar , it failed on that account as well through this policy.
My point was Govt. didn't need to implement this policy for data when it had already directed everyone to link their accounts with aadhar giving full access to govt. I am sure the folks in India will attest that GOI has directed everyone to link accounts with Aadhar or their accounts will be seized by Govt by the end of this year. My intent was to mention that demonetization wasn't needed for the data when we already were linking accounts with aadhar and PAN .

Understandably disconnect might happened , might help to read the RBI's report issued on 31st Aug or even Jaitley's press conf. where he talked about aadhar ,linking it with accounts and demonitization. Perhaps you will then get the "connect".

You have a Govt. which is winning elections , why should it bother if I criticize it's policies not like thats going to change anything..NRI vote bank , no. All I talked about were his failures in Kashmir after the strikes which is kinda true given how many soldiers we have lost since then . But thats a random Govt.-mentioned fact. Or lack of performance of many ministers , that is all my opinion, though.


Good for you if you aren't a Bhakt , Congi or whoever. May the forces be with you. 👍🏼


Oh, Also, I am guilty of being verbose , but I promise I won't label anyone with any silly titles for having a different opinions. Thats just petty.


lol this is what happens when you cut and paste garbage from all over.😆

now take the random bit you have about aadhar linking with bank accounts. Yes, aadhar will provide that info. But there would have been no "black money" data trail created if the note ban had not come into effect. Again, let me repeat for your understanding- the reason that the RBI has ADDITIONAL information is because the note ban forced people to deposit their black money into accounts where aadhar can pick it up. Without the ban, there would have been no trail for aadhar to pick up. Get it now?😆

you also seemed to be critical of the govt for changing the story about note ban. Guess what. Even your famous silicon valley entrepreneurs change stories/ idieas/ rationale for their products. Most of their companies morph into products and ideas they had not envisioned when they first started out. Often the original idea does not fly but something good comes out of it. Thats exactly what happened with the note ban.

even motor-mouth rajan acknowledged that the note ban would have long-term benefits. He just thought the short-run costs outweighed those benefits. He's wrong on the "outweighed" score. Now you tell me- how valuable is extra tax compliance to the economy? Can you even begin to quantify? I'll give you a hint: the costs are one-time. The gains are annual!

also any sensible debate should consider the alternatives. What alternatives did rajan or anyone come up with to root out black money that had built up over the decades? Zilch! Thats why he's motor-mouth. Hope you can do better😆

oh, btw, i'll address the other random stuff you put out. But let's make sure you get the note ban stuff cleared up first, k?😆
Edited by BirdieNumNum - 8 years ago
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Posted: 8 years ago
Aadhar card, PAN card, ration card, ...more the merrier to identify and cut off the heads of the snakes that slithered thru the banking channels in connivance with the banking officials to launder billions.So, towards that end, they are helpful to get to the criminals faster perhaps but by themselves they have nothing to do with anything.

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