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charminggenie

@charminggenie

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Posted: 8 years ago

#311

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

Sathya Sai baba was a god-man, Sathya Sai Organization was founded by him, it was based off of his personality, and his followers claimed miraculous healing, resurrections, clairvoyance, etc.. Some of his notable followers were Vajpayee, LK Advani and a few other BJP leaders.

To Birdie's point, through this organization, Sathya Sai Baba established a network of free hospitals, clinics, drinking water projects, auditoriums, ashrams and schools.

We can't just throw people into jails, willy-nilly. Fraud has to be established first.

Hmm, I hope you know Sathya Sai Organization has had lang grab cases going on.

Also, in July 2001, a Swedish therapist made allegations of abuse against the Baba. The Sai Organization in Sweden, along with a Sai-affiliated school, was shut down after the allegations surfaced. Sweden's statements on it were very telling.

In 2004, Mark Roche, who had been a devotee of Sri Sathya Sai Baba since 1969, was also allegedly abuse by him.

In 2006, an article published in the Guardian, UK accused the spritual leader of paedophilia.

This apart from the murder accusations etc.

Just because Godmen have political followers just like Asaram, Ram Rahim, so many more doesn't make them noble infact thats should bring them under more scrutiny. Chandraswami counted British PM, Indian PM and many other delegates as his followers, look what happened to him.

All I am saying it shouldn't hurt anyone to keep a check on the ever increasing land these Godmen grab, the money flow etc.

Edited by charminggenie - 8 years ago

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@K.Universe.

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#312

^^ Again, we can't just throw people into jail without due process, allegations/accusations notwithstanding.

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

#313

Originally posted by: K.Universe.
^^ Again, we can't just throw people into jail without due process, allegations/accusations notwithstanding.

Ofcourse we cannot and shouldn't but my problem is the due process is rarely followed because of nexus with politicians across political lines.

On another note, what you think is the difference between superstition and religion?

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@K.Universe.

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#314

Originally posted by: charminggenie

difference between superstition and religion?

Hmm, that's a pretty random question, unless I am not seeing the context.

Superstition is not based on reason. Religion may or may not be based on reason.

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@K.Universe.

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#315

^^ Actually, I take that back a little.

Even superstition could be based on reason but the reasoning behind it could be faulty.

But when it comes to religion, say Buddhism, once we have scientifically exhausted all explanations, some have no choice but to fallback on religion to get the answers they are seeking.

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@K.Universe.

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#316

Bazigar, why did you edit your posts?

If you stick to the topic of Demonetization without bringing in extraneous, arbitrary phrases such as "Modi Bhakts", "hot blood of Muslims", "feku" etc., we could have a decent conversation.

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

#317

Originally posted by: K.Universe.
^^ Actually, I take that back a little.

Even superstition could be based on reason but the reasoning behind it could be faulty.

But when it comes to religion, say Buddhism, once we have scientifically exhausted all explanations, some have no choice but to fallback on religion to get the answers they are seeking.

All this recent babagiri made me realize that the difference is very less, if any , just religion is more organized.

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@K.Universe.

Voyager

Posted: 8 years ago

#318

^^ I guess.

Here's a random question to you Genie. How long before we are discussing how we could have averted a nuclear war?

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charminggenie

@charminggenie

Stunner

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Posted: 8 years ago

#319

Originally posted by: K.Universe.
^^ I guess.

Here's a random question to you Genie. How long before we are discussing how we could have averted a nuclear war?

Is it foolish on my part when I feel we won't have a nuclear war atleast for couple of decades. None of the major players can gain anything. Intimidation sure, full fledged war , doubtful.

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BirdieNumNum

@CuckooCutter7

Dazzler

Posted: 8 years ago

#320

Originally posted by: charminggenie

Ofcourse we cannot and shouldn't but my problem is the due process is rarely followed because of nexus with politicians across political lines.

On another note, what you think is the difference between superstition and religion?

so you have a problem, and you decide that you can throw around accusations? Good going😆

are you as vocal about going after the robber vadras of the world? At least the religious organizations do some good. Did you see your sophisticated congress types ever do any good unless its to line up their own pockets?

you know, it is possible for organizations to do good work without stealing and grabbing land like you are accusing them of. Thats how you have gurudwaras feed zillions of people in langar 365 days and nights a year! You should see it to believe it.

also, when you talk of 100 deaths because of some policy failure, how about the millions of Indians who have starved over the ages because of disastrous policies of the congress? That ok for you? And lets distinguish between policy and implementation. The implementation might have been questionable but you still havent answered my question as to how the policy was a wrong one. Even Rajan is on record as saying that the policy benefits will play out in the long run. He just thinks that the short term costs outweigh these long run benefits. But thats his opinion in any case.

and what's this logic about aadhar?😆 The money trail is now there precisely because the black money cheaters felt compelled to deposit their notes in the banks. That happened because of note ban. Aadhar would not/ did not force people to deposit their black money. So lets not just throw one thing after another without reasoned argument.

@ Souro=> sorry, you dont win the bet. I said "most" people. You find one or two people here, that does not prove "most". So boss, good try, but in a failing cause.😉

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