Why UN is silent about US genocide in Yemen? - Page 2

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Posted: 10 years ago
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^^You are blaming the exporter / seller instead of focusing more on the importer / buyer. Cashing in on a conflict, adding fuel to fire etc are allegations you haven't proved yet.

Walmart is in the business of selling guns among other things. US is in the business of exporting arms among other things (engines, pumps, electronic equipment, oil, vehicles, aircraft, medicines, pharmaceuticals etc) Walmart is toughening policies on gun sales; US is toughening policies on exporting nuclear technology. Now, if you are buyer of a gun at Walmart and you execute a mass shooting, blaming that shooting on Walmart would be preposterous just as blaming US if a Saudi uses a cluster bomb or a pipe bomb supplied by US on Yemen.

But I understand that US is supporting the coalition (and in my analogy, Walmart is not supporting the shooter) so the only relevant question is, why is US supporting Saudi / GCC. For that, we need to delve into US' foreign policy and past history of this region. You are welcome to start us off.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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^There cannot be a bigger evil than war due to the sheer magnitude of human sufferings and destruction it brings upon the people involved. The affected nations take years to recover. Can attempts at rationalising a third party's role in the name of business interest absolve it from its contribution to the immense destruction caused? A look into history reveals that its nothing new. Iraq, Syria, now Yemen and GOK whose turn next? Does the UN actually have any significant role or power to control a bully? That could explain the UN's silence.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: zorrro

^There cannot be a bigger evil than war due to the sheer magnitude of human sufferings and destruction it brings upon the people involved. The affected nations take years to recover. Can attempts at rationalising a third party's role in the name of business interest absolve it from its contribution to the immense destruction caused? A look into history reveals that its nothing new. Iraq, Syria, now Yemen and GOK whose turn next? Does the UN actually have any significant role or power to control a bully? That could explain the UN's silence.


Iran and North Korea are on the list. And perhaps Erdogan of Turkey.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The USA has been a long-time ally of the Saudi royal family and the Wahabi mafia they control. US security firms make a killing from providing security to many Saudi Royals. So why shouldn't it jump to the defense of it's dear ally who's so sincerely dedicated to guarding the Sunni power bastion in the Middle East?
The US had even facilitated a meeting between Saudi officials and members of a pro-Saudi Salafist Egyptian party, one of the Hazem Alliance.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Mr. K: I'm sorry, but your defense of the US is preposterous in this context. The USA has not been simply a passive seller of arms in exchange for cash; its providing active assistance to the Saudi-led coalition in terms of intelligence and logistics. It's sale of arms to the coalition has been in increased by order ever since the strikes began.
And your analogy of "not blaming the seller of guns if I use his merchandise to execute a mass killing" simply doesn't hold here. Its about fishing in troubled waters; selling guns to someone who I KNOW is going to use them in a less than holy manner.
Edited by krystal_watz - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

The USA has not been simply a passive seller of arms in exchange for cash; its providing active assistance to the Saudi-led coalition in terms of intelligence and logistics.



I said the same thing too on page one so why are you making it look like you are correcting me?! It's not like you or me have any special intel on the US-Saudi arms deals other than what we read in the newspapers or on the web.

Originally posted by: krystal_watz

And your analogy of "not blaming the seller of guns if I use his merchandise to execute a mass killing" simply doesn't hold here. Its about fishing in troubled waters; selling guns to someone who I KNOW is going to use them in a less than holy manner.



There is nothing holy about weapons of mass destruction, Krystal. The importers are not purchasing them for ayudha pooja on Vijaya Dashami. They are purchasing them to use them when necessary. Everyone knows that.

US' interest is to thwart al qaeda franchises in the Arabian peninsula. It is true that energy insecurity used to drive their middle eastern policy before but now it's mostly counter-terrorism and bringing about political / economic reforms in that region.

I am ready to argue on any/all issues pertaining to Syria/Libya/Iraq/Iran/Saudi/Pakistan/Yemen/Israel etc, so knowledgeable people can bring it.

All I see is that Muslims (Sunnis and Shias) are ready to kill one another and they have no concept of democracy. That in a nutshell is what most of middle east crisis is all about.



Edited by K.Universe. - 10 years ago
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Posted: 10 years ago
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The topic is about the USA's role in fuelling a bloody unrest actively. Do we agree on that or not?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: krystal_watz

The topic is about the USA's role in fuelling a bloody unrest actively. Do we agree on that or not?



I don't agree with the choice of your words. Fueling has negative connotations.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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The Yemeni issue is about a Shia-Sunni conflict, which was sparked off by State deprivation of the Shia minority and humiliation of a Houthi religious head. The Al-Qaida is a Sunni extremist organisation which opposes both Mansour Hadi AND the Houthis, and the latter are also being targeted by the Saudi-led coalition.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: K.Universe.



I don't agree with the choice of your words. Fueling has negative connotations.



Assisting one side in a conflict counts as "fueling". A negative action cannot demand adjectives with positive connotations.

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