Should commercial surrogacy be allowed?

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http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/doctors-petition-sc-against-ban-on-commercial-surrogacy/article1-1376569.aspx

"The Indian Society for Assisted Reproduction (ISAR) has moved an application before the Supreme Court asking it not to quash a notification under which trading of "human embryo" is allowed. In the absence of a legislation to regulate surrogacy, doctors and couples wanting surrogate children take refuge under the 2013 notification.

"There are hundreds of surrogates who have started their own small scale businesses like catering, beauty parlours, food joints and sewing coaching classes. They now own houses, their children study in English medium schools, their husbands have bought passenger rickshaws and their social status is markedly raised," the society stated.

The petitioner claims to be a representative body of several scientists, doctors and research experts engaged in the field of assistive reproduction for childless parents. It has protested against advocate Jayashree Wad's petition asking the court to strike down the 2013 notification.

Wad has contended that trading of human embryo under the Foreign Trade (Development and Regulations) Act is opposed to public policy, unethical and violates the principle of doctrine of reasonableness. "Embryo is a life in the miniature form and cannot be considered as goods," Wad has contended."

Commercial surrogacy is banned in most European countries, Australia, etc. India had allowed it to flourish with the result that many foreigners who could not have kids flocked to surrogacy clinics in India.

This is a very profitable venture for the clinics that charge whopping amounts but give a very small percentage to the surrogate mother. Of course, they would like the practice to continue so they can mint money and are thus lobbying to have SC's stay quashed.

Many of the foreigners are also known paedophiles who will often come with a friend of the opposite sex to pose as a couple.

So what do people here think about commercial surrogacy?

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qwertyesque thumbnail
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Posted: 10 years ago
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another business avenue... nothing wrong i guess...good for the economy?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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It shouldn't be allowed.
People donate organs..why should anyone sell their womb?
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Posted: 10 years ago
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ok where is the personal choice argument here... I mean she is not losing if she acts like an incubator for 9 months.. as it is its hard on her... why would you impose a moral burden now... she is renting her womb... and that should be fine!
The only reason i wont allow is if it is in anyway going to harm her.. once its commercially commoditized procedure!
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Posted: 10 years ago
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EVen if you ignore the safety aspects in case the parents are paedos, I find it vile.
It's degrading and demoralizing for the human to sell their womb. Anyone who's more spiritually inclined will understand the gravity. Yes, if it's legal, people will use it to make money.

And those clinics which keep 90 percent of the money anyway are becoming powerful and dangerous.

I don't personally like the idea of human kidney donation either. If you've abused your body, face the consequences.
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Originally posted by: ibnbatuta

EVen if you ignore the safety aspects in case the parents are paedos, I find it vile.

It's degrading and demoralizing for the human to sell their womb. Anyone who's more spiritually inclined will understand the gravity. Yes, if it's legal, people will use it to make money.

And those clinics which keep 90 percent of the money anyway are becoming powerful and dangerous.

I don't personally like the idea of human kidney donation either. If you've abused your body, face the consequences.


I guess you are aware of official transplant industry.. heart, lungs, kidney, , brain, liver...etc... just cause a person volunteers to offer an organ doesnt make it any more bad,,, even if he is asking money for it... i still put the moral burden on the medical world who are willing to go with it for illegal reasons!!!An extreme analogy is of people who put their life on line to save other people and get paid for it.. police and military...fire-fighters...etc..organs are just a part of the whole... .. yes this is kind of extreme analogy though
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Originally posted by: qwertyesque


I guess you are aware of official transplant industry.. heart, lungs, kidney, , brain, liver...etc... just cause a person volunteers to offer an organ doesnt make it any more bad,,, even if he is asking money for it... i still put the moral burden on the medical world who are willing to go with it for illegal reasons!!!An extreme analogy is of people who put their life on line to save other people and get paid for it.. police and military...fire-fighters...etc..organs are just a part of the whole... .. yes this is kind of extreme analogy though


That analogy is an analogy for the sake of it. Not everything is analogous to something else i feel. 😆

Police, army, firefighters risk their lives to save others. The spirit is involved, not just the body and mind.

People donate organs after death or for a loved one only unless they are doing it for money. Can the way the spirit is uplifted after saving people's lives from terrorists be compared to giving them organs?

The mind can rationalize all it likes that a life is saved but to me, it's just weird.

Human life is complex and there are myriad factors involved. Of course, then there is the case of that policeman/ armyman who lost his arm or leg in a terrorist operation. Now, he will feel the burden of his existence rather than the highs and positive affirmations.


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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ibnbatuta


That analogy is an analogy for the sake of it. Not everything is analogous to something else i feel. 😆

Police, army, firefighters risk their lives to save others. The spirit is involved, not just the body and mind.

People donate organs after death or for a loved one only unless they are doing it for money. Can the way the spirit is uplifted after saving people's lives from terrorists be compared to giving them organs?

The mind can rationalize all it likes that a life is saved but to me, it's just weird.

Human life is complex and there are myriad factors involved. Of course, then there is the case of that policeman/ armyman who lost his arm or leg in a terrorist operation. Now, he will feel the burden of his existence rather than the highs and positive affirmations.



what spirit... i never mentioned any ghosts!!!... 😆
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Oh boy, Qwerty, you really are such a noob.
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Posted: 10 years ago
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Originally posted by: ibnbatuta

Oh boy, Qwerty, you really are such a noob.


Noob!!! and what logical line of thought gets you to that conclusion 😆

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