Why does God turn a blind eye ? - Page 4

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

that way, nothing has been elegant about the rest of the universe either. We have had stars explode, die fiery deaths, splinter into billions of pieces etc etc etc. Struggles are a part of life, and of the universe itself.

the question that we should ask is whether it could have been different. Could it have been a life without struggle? Somehow i think not. If we gave humans a life without suffering, we'd still be whining. We'd be bored to death. 😆 Life would cease to be meaningful if there was nothing to struggle against...Ditto for the universe too. A universe that is not undergoing change would be a universe that would become static. You need to keep the process of creation and destruction going on to renew and throw up new possibilities...

Originally posted by: Angel-likeDevil

Pain and suffering.. If we look at it on the whole, is just one side of some 'happening'. It is not a whole. Pain and suffering happen as a natural by product of something else. Say, a disease, one caused by a microorganism, the germ is gaining at another living being's expense. For instances like a natural disaster, it is a disaster for those that get disturbed/displaced/killed(speaking of all living creatures)..but, the disaster was only a natural phenomenon, without which, the Earth may not evolve and sustain...or maintain the balance.

Pain and suffering is always never "whole". It's just one sided(?).

And, as for humans, pain/suffering is too subjective... Here is perhaps where one can find the "evolution" if pain/suffering. Unlike early man days, we have new problems. As stupidity as well as intelligenceof man has been reaching new bounds, so has "pain/suffering". There are mental people llike me who thank God for showing "different colors" of life when in pain, but at the same time curse the same God for de-railing their materialistic plans. Anyway, I'll stop, hope this was anything in relevance to your ppost above.

Originally posted by: _Angie_

Life would be neutral as it constitutes of both the predator as well as the prey. Due to the impermanence of all forms there is constant transformation. One life form feeds on another to grow. The electrochemical reactions are sensed as pain/pleasure which act as stimulus to further reactions or responses that ultimately influences the evolutionary trajectory.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

It is stoic to say that pain and suffering are a natural by-product.

However, I don't see a need for life to embrace stoicism. Smacks of Stockholm Syndrome to me.

A dog-eat-dog world where one organism can only survive at the expense of another is an imperfect system, not to mention unscrupulous. If that is the only viable system, life is better off without it.

The whole point is that if there is a Creator, the Creation should have been "more intelligent" where there are no undesirable consequences. And if the consequences are unavoidable, there shouldn't have been a creation to begin with.

On the other hand, if there is no Creator, then there is no debate here.

Originally posted by: BirdieNumNum

that way, nothing has been elegant about the rest of the universe either. We have had stars explode, die fiery deaths, splinter into billions of pieces etc etc etc. Struggles are a part of life, and of the universe itself.

the question that we should ask is whether it could have been different. Could it have been a life without struggle? Somehow i think not. If we gave humans a life without suffering, we'd still be whining. We'd be bored to death. 😆 Life would cease to be meaningful if there was nothing to struggle against...Ditto for the universe too. A universe that is not undergoing change would be a universe that would become static. You need to keep the process of creation and destruction going on to renew and throw up new possibilities...

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

This debate is really on assumption, one must believe in God for the sake of debating. If there is a creator then why not name "it" God, but then once you name "it" God, the grounds of this debate changes,we head into philosophical world...

So really at a crossroad here.. which way are we heading?

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

All jokes apart, once you stop being a seeker (searching for all the answers to all the problems) in life, then you can truly enjoy life without struggle, suffering, etc.

Originally posted by: -Aarya-

Off course you can, it's called enlightened living 😆 basically stop living!

All jokes apart, once you stop being a seeker (searching for all the answers to all the problems) in life, then you can truly enjoy life without struggle, suffering, etc.

Originally posted by: K.Universe.

The whole point is that if there is a Creator, the Creation should have been "more intelligent" where there are no undesirable consequences. And if the consequences are unavoidable, there shouldn't have been a creation to begin with.